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bendertherobot

https://roubaixcycling.cc/2016/11/09/lu ... ng-helmet/

My initial thoughts on the Lumos smart helmet

bendertherobot

Alex99 wrote:

What are folks wearing on legs for 5 degrees C (ish) and rain for 2-4 hour rides? Nanoflex type tights or something softshell?

I use Lusso Max Repel nightlife and Parentini Shark.2 k Dry. Both are treated rather than softshell

fat daddy

I am wearing soft shell this year ... but 2-4 hours ? ..... not out that long and if I was I don't think I could cope with the noise of the legs rusling and more importantly, the continual rubbing on the knees of the trouser legs.

I would suffer the wet and keep warm with skin tight ..... 4hrs is a long time for clothing with movement

dinyull

Initial thoughts having watched the vid bender, close up the indicators work well but it all merges into the brake light as you get further away. Perhaps it's just the lens/camera, but hard to make out in that video.

Also, are there indicators on the front of the helmet? I'd say front on might actually be more useful.



But then, I can't see the idea working. If your a vehicle coming up to a cyclist with a flashing light indicating left, how can you make out it's actually indicating left (apart from the arrow shape you can't really see in the video) and not a cyclist with a normal flashing light on his helmet?

Alex99

bendertherobot wrote:

Alex99 wrote:

What are folks wearing on legs for 5 degrees C (ish) and rain for 2-4 hour rides? Nanoflex type tights or something softshell?

I use Lusso Max Repel nightlife and Parentini Shark.2 k Dry. Both are treated rather than softshell

Great, thanks

bendertherobot

Dinyull wrote:

Initial thoughts having watched the vid bender, close up the indicators work well but it all merges into the brake light as you get further away. Perhaps it's just the lens/camera, but hard to make out in that video.

Also, are there indicators on the front of the helmet? I'd say front on might actually be more useful.



But then, I can't see the idea working. If your a vehicle coming up to a cyclist with a flashing light indicating left, how can you make out it's actually indicating left (apart from the arrow shape you can't really see in the video) and not a cyclist with a normal flashing light on his helmet?

Limitations of photography I think. They're very clear to the eye. I'll see if I can do better.

Remember that when you indicate the left section is flashing amber, the middle is solid red. So should help. There are indicators on the front.

I'll add a daylight video to see if it's clearer.

apreading

Perhaps they should have sweeping indicators like some newer cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Fin7pyzDc

rusty_nail

I can't work out why my Chapeau Club Thermal tights are not as comfortable as the Rivelo Honister shorts and Headley 3/4s when they have the same pad. Is it a positioning issue?

bendertherobot

Rusty Nail wrote:

I can't work out why my Chapeau Club Thermal tights are not as comfortable as the Rivelo Honister shorts and Headley 3/4s when they have the same pad. Is it a positioning issue?

That is weird, the pad is, as you say, at least elastic interface and likely the same. Can you compare, if possible, exactly where the pad sits in comparison to, well, umm, your area?

rusty_nail

bendertherobot wrote:

Rusty Nail wrote:

I can't work out why my Chapeau Club Thermal tights are not as comfortable as the Rivelo Honister shorts and Headley 3/4s when they have the same pad. Is it a positioning issue?

That is weird, the pad is, as you say, at least elastic interface and likely the same. Can you compare, if possible, exactly where the pad sits in comparison to, well, umm, your area?

I think I need to try one pair on, have a short ride and then change over to work out why they feel different. I emailed Rivelo a while back and they confirmed it is the Bastogne HP, so that was the reason I bought the Chapeau tights. It's not horrible but just doesn't feel as comfortable as the Rivelos. My guess would be that one sits further back but further investigation is needed, they both feel in roughly the same place in comparison to said area off the bike!

bendertherobot

Rusty Nail wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

Rusty Nail wrote:

I can't work out why my Chapeau Club Thermal tights are not as comfortable as the Rivelo Honister shorts and Headley 3/4s when they have the same pad. Is it a positioning issue?

That is weird, the pad is, as you say, at least elastic interface and likely the same. Can you compare, if possible, exactly where the pad sits in comparison to, well, umm, your area?

I think I need to try one pair on, have a short ride and then change over to work out why they feel different. I emailed Rivelo a while back and they confirmed it is the Bastogne HP, so that was the reason I bought the Chapeau tights. It's not horrible but just doesn't feel as comfortable as the Rivelos. My guess would be that one sits further back but further investigation is needed, they both feel in roughly the same place in comparison to said area off the bike!

Fit will have an effect as well and fabric. So it can cause it to sit in the wrong place even if it appears right. I might spring for some Rivelo bibtights shortly as well I reckon.

rusty_nail

bendertherobot wrote:

Rusty Nail wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

Rusty Nail wrote:

I can't work out why my Chapeau Club Thermal tights are not as comfortable as the Rivelo Honister shorts and Headley 3/4s when they have the same pad. Is it a positioning issue?

That is weird, the pad is, as you say, at least elastic interface and likely the same. Can you compare, if possible, exactly where the pad sits in comparison to, well, umm, your area?

I think I need to try one pair on, have a short ride and then change over to work out why they feel different. I emailed Rivelo a while back and they confirmed it is the Bastogne HP, so that was the reason I bought the Chapeau tights. It's not horrible but just doesn't feel as comfortable as the Rivelos. My guess would be that one sits further back but further investigation is needed, they both feel in roughly the same place in comparison to said area off the bike!

Fit will have an effect as well and fabric. So it can cause it to sit in the wrong place even if it appears right. I might spring for some Rivelo bibtights shortly as well I reckon.

The reason I didn't get their tights initially was because it's a different pad, but if it's the positioning not the pad itself that agrees with me then I probably will too! It's between them and the DHB Aeron, I've got the Aeron Speed shorts and they're nice and comfortable downstairs.

tenohfive

Mudguards. Since fitting 25's my old mudguards were rubbing like hell on my CAAD 8 no matter how much I tinkered, and I've now managed to break the rear. Front is still fine. I'd rather just get a simple rear than a full set, and would rather keep weight down if possible.
Would this fit the bill?
http://cycletowork.wiggle.co.uk/sks-s-b ... -mudguard/

On another note, Galibier leg warmers - brilliant. Fantastic fit, lose moisture well...put on and forget.

pinno

tenohfive wrote:

Mudguards. Since fitting 25's my old mudguards were rubbing like hell on my CAAD 8 no matter how much I tinkered, and I've now managed to break the rear. Front is still fine. I'd rather just get a simple rear than a full set, and would rather keep weight down if possible.
Would this fit the bill?

Despite the fact that this is a clothing review thread, i'll try and help

You want to protect riders behind you (perhaps) and yor transmission from road spray in winter. The grime mixed with salt is going to hammer your bits. It would be far wiser to get something like SKS Raceblade longs or Crud Road Racer MK2 if you haven't got dedicated eyelets, which protect more than the flappity thing you posted a link to.

awavey

Alex99 wrote:

What are folks wearing on legs for 5 degrees C (ish) and rain for 2-4 hour rides? Nanoflex type tights or something softshell?

I wore my Morvelo stormshield tights today, they were ace in the rain and plenty warm given the temp >1C on the way home, one of those days where they really showed up how not coping with things the rest of the my kit was doing, if I could find a jacket that was as good as they were to go with them, Id be sorted for winter.

Alex99

awavey wrote:

Alex99 wrote:

What are folks wearing on legs for 5 degrees C (ish) and rain for 2-4 hour rides? Nanoflex type tights or something softshell?

I wore my Morvelo stormshield tights today, they were ace in the rain and plenty warm given the temp >1C on the way home, one of those days where they really showed up how not coping with things the rest of the my kit was doing, if I could find a jacket that was as good as they were to go with them, Id be sorted for winter.

Thanks. Will check it out.

Alex99

Pinno wrote:

tenohfive wrote:

Mudguards. Since fitting 25's my old mudguards were rubbing like hell on my CAAD 8 no matter how much I tinkered, and I've now managed to break the rear. Front is still fine. I'd rather just get a simple rear than a full set, and would rather keep weight down if possible.
Would this fit the bill?

Despite the fact that this is a clothing review thread, i'll try and help

You want to protect riders behind you (perhaps) and yor transmission from road spray in winter. The grime mixed with salt is going to hammer your bits. It would be far wiser to get something like SKS Raceblade longs or Crud Road Racer MK2 if you haven't got dedicated eyelets, which protect more than the flappity thing you posted a link to.

That type of guard will keep much off your back, but nothing else. Recently, I'm more inclined towards sks raceblade XL. Fairly long (some protection for others) and wide, so no rubbing. Doesn't keep crud off the brakes and BB / front mech area. But, the bike is a lot easier to clean as they can be taken off in seconds. It's a trade off.

d00g81

Anyone tried the Spokesman clothing (Ghost jersey or jacket/Glass Jacket)? Seems to be made of similar fabric to Parenti Mossa.. I just received mine (from SportsPursuit) this morning so not tried it but Glass jacket very similar feel to the Mossa. The Ghost jersey is very thin/light. Difficult to believe it is water resistant/windproof.

bendertherobot

No, but sounds like the lusso corsa. I'd imagine parentini have something similar on the way......

bendertherobot

I hope to have a Mossa Fashion shortly (and some thermal shorts). Excited.

Have to say, in terms of longevity and abuse, I only use my Parentini Shark.2 for CX now as they are so comfy and so robust. Properly properly robust.

arthur_scrimshaw

Received the Mavic jacket, have to say I'm impressed with it, nice materials and detailing but it's too big for me (an xl which I thought may be ok but just too baggy) and there was a bunched stitching problem around the zip which would have annoyed the hell out of me (ok I'm a bit fussy) so it's going back. Ordered the aeron full protection softshell in fluro/black so that me sorted (I hope)

comsense

bendertherobot - do you have any idea if those Rivelo 3/4's are suitable for long legged riders?
I'd like 3/4 to reach and stay roughly half way down the calve ( like in the photo on your blog)
Only 3/4's I have ever tried all landed up behind my knee so weren't much use

bendertherobot

comsense wrote:

bendertherobot - do you have any idea if those Rivelo 3/4's are suitable for long legged riders?
I'd like 3/4 to reach and stay roughly half way down the calve ( like in the photo on your blog)
Only 3/4's I have ever tried all landed up behind my knee so weren't much use

I'd hope that they lengthen with each increase in size though, of course, there are thin tall riders naturally.

How tall are you and what size do you reckon? I'll try to take a pic on me and do some measurements.

comsense

Thanks, I'm 6'2 and looking at the xl according to their sizing chart.

bendertherobot

Ok, I'm 5ft 10 and L so I'll try and take a pic including measuring how long they actually are!

I'll try my Assos as well to see if they come longer or shorter.

bendertherobot

https://goo.gl/photos/MNDwoNFyTkRa2Fd18

Rivelo

https://goo.gl/photos/DSaTE4DMc9LttoAe7

Assos

I measured from crotch to end (!) as 21 inches on Rivelo and 20 ish on Assos. You can see the marker line on my leg where the Rivelo came to.

So, the Rivelo seem to be quite long. If you measure 21 inches that should give you an idea but I'd hope the XL to be 22+

And, yes, my toes are wrecked.

apreading

I find just about all 3/4s ride up though - as you bend your knee the material at the front is stretched and pulls them up, then they bunch up at the back of the knee - there is a position just between the fattest part of the calf and the knee where the circumference of your leg is smallest - they seem to congregate there. Any that dont ride up to this position its probably because they are so tight that they are uncomfortable anyway...

So I usually size so that they fit to this point by design, that way there isnt bunching up to contend with too.

comsense

bendertherobot wrote:

https://goo.gl/photos/MNDwoNFyTkRa2Fd18

Rivelo

https://goo.gl/photos/DSaTE4DMc9LttoAe7

Assos

I measured from crotch to end (!) as 21 inches on Rivelo and 20 ish on Assos. You can see the marker line on my leg where the Rivelo came to.

So, the Rivelo seem to be quite long. If you measure 21 inches that should give you an idea but I'd hope the XL to be 22+

And, yes, my toes are wrecked.

That is a fair bit of trouble you went to !

Thanks a million.

comsense

apreading wrote:

I find just about all 3/4s ride up though - as you bend your knee the material at the front is stretched and pulls them up, then they bunch up at the back of the knee - there is a position just between the fattest part of the calf and the knee where the circumference of your leg is smallest - they seem to congregate there. Any that dont ride up to this position its probably because they are so tight that they are uncomfortable anyway...

So I usually size so that they fit to this point by design, that way there isnt bunching up to contend with too.

That makes sense, thanks for the advise.

On a whim I got DHB knee Roubaix Kneewarmers last year.
Then on another whim I got DHB Roubaix shorts at sale price. I have found that I can "adjust" the length quite a it by pulling them higher or lower on the thigh. Really inexpensive kit but something that works really well. I've 2 pairs of 3/4 's and feel they do what you say - move up off the calf and stay just below the knee.

superlightweight

d00g81 wrote:

Anyone tried the Spokesman clothing (Ghost jersey or jacket/Glass Jacket)? Seems to be made of similar fabric to Parenti Mossa.. I just received mine (from SportsPursuit) this morning so not tried it but Glass jacket very similar feel to the Mossa. The Ghost jersey is very thin/light. Difficult to believe it is water resistant/windproof.

I also received my Ghost jersey today from SP - its certainly thinner than I was expecting! I prefer to wear a jersey with armwarmers rather than a full long sleeved jersey so was hoping this would be a viable winter short-sleeved jersey - not so sure now though :?