Vuelta re-sits for?
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Quintana, because despite all the efforts in the Alps, he goes home with a fistful of flies... the white jersey was a given and the second place smells more like defeat than achievement. His form over the first half was questionable. He was the better climber and should have won the Tour.
Contador, because had he not been there, nobody would have noticed... on his defence, he was the only one who bothered with the Giro.
Pinot, because despite that famous win, his credibility as a GC contender has lost points rather than gained
Sagan, because the green jersey doesn't put a smile on anyone's face in the absence of a real win
Cavendish, because it looks like autumn is on his way for him
Majka, because he failed to display last year's brilliance
Contador, because had he not been there, nobody would have noticed... on his defence, he was the only one who bothered with the Giro.
Pinot, because despite that famous win, his credibility as a GC contender has lost points rather than gained
Sagan, because the green jersey doesn't put a smile on anyone's face in the absence of a real win
Cavendish, because it looks like autumn is on his way for him
Majka, because he failed to display last year's brilliance
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Can see Nibs going for the Vuelta."A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19665991#p19665991]ShockedSoShocked[/url] wrote:Can see Nibs going for the Vuelta.
He should and he will... however overall I did put him down to third or fourth... he finished fourth with a stage win, so not as bad a result as one might thinkleft the forum March 20230 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19665991#p19665991]ShockedSoShocked[/url] wrote:Can see Nibs going for the Vuelta.
None of the Tour contenders, unless they dropped out early. They will all be knackered after such a tough race. Cav possibly as he was ill and hanging on, he may be able to recover in time. Contador? He was spent before the Tour so doing the Vuelta could only go badly for him. TeeJay if he has kicked his illness.0 -
Froome will go, not to win.
Brailsford seems to think it is good prep for the Tour.
I would tend to agree.0 -
Froome will go, not to win.
Brailsford seems to think it is good prep for the Tour.
I would tend to agree.
Would Froome then ride in support of someone else; who?
It does make sense, as it's a good time to 'practice' a Grand Tour, but leaves enough recovery time until next July. But the Vuelta starts on 22nd August - that doesn't leave much rest time.0 -
Froome will go, not to win.
Brailsford seems to think it is good prep for the Tour.
I would tend to agree.
4 of the last five Tour winners rode the vuelta the year before. Many of those who were notable disappointments at this Tour were absent from la Vuelta last year.
Seems to me Vuelta is now the preparation race for the Tour while the ToB is the best prep for the Worlds.Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
Froome will go, not to win.
Brailsford seems to think it is good prep for the Tour.
I would tend to agree.
4 of the last five Tour winners rode the vuelta the year before. Many of those who were notable disappointments at this Tour were absent from la Vuelta last year.
Seems to me Vuelta is now the preparation race for the Tour while the ToB is the best prep for the Worlds.
How many of the tour winners went on to rider the Vuelta?0 -
Froome will go, not to win.
Brailsford seems to think it is good prep for the Tour.
I would tend to agree.
4 of the last five Tour winners rode the vuelta the year before. Many of those who were notable disappointments at this Tour were absent from la Vuelta last year.
Seems to me Vuelta is now the preparation race for the Tour while the ToB is the best prep for the Worlds.
How many of the tour winners went on to rider the Vuelta?
Too busy to check, but Froome certainly doubled up in 2012 when he finished 2nd in the Tour.Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
Quintana, because despite all the efforts in the Alps, he goes home with a fistful of flies... the white jersey was a given and the second place smells more like defeat than achievement. His form over the first half was questionable. He was the better climber and should have won the Tour.
Contador, because had he not been there, nobody would have noticed... on his defence, he was the only one who bothered with the Giro.
Pinot, because despite that famous win, his credibility as a GC contender has lost points rather than gained
Sagan, because the green jersey doesn't put a smile on anyone's face in the absence of a real win
Cavendish, because it looks like autumn is on his way for him
Majka, because he failed to display last year's brilliance
Harsh in places but a good post.0 -
Since 1992 only Sastre has ridden the Vuelta with the knowledge that he had won the tour. Andy Schleck and Óscar Pereiro have also done it, but I'm not sure if they knew they were tour winners and therefore probably didn't do the publicity circuit.
Before 1992 it was properly Tinkoff awesome - Lemond rode all three in 89 and 90.0 -
Oh, just remembered the Vuelta moved in 1995 to Aug / Sept which makes Lemond etc. even more impressive, but it also means that he didn't do the publicity circuit and then ride the Vuelta.0
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Since 1992 only Sastre has ridden the Vuelta with the knowledge that he had won the tour. Andy Schleck and Óscar Pereiro have also done it, but I'm not sure if they knew they were tour winners and therefore probably didn't do the publicity circuit.
Before 1992 it was properly Tinkoff awesome - Lemond rode all three in 89 and 90.
LeMond didn't ride all three, ever.It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
Since 1992 only Sastre has ridden the Vuelta with the knowledge that he had won the tour. Andy Schleck and Óscar Pereiro have also done it, but I'm not sure if they knew they were tour winners and therefore probably didn't do the publicity circuit.
Before 1992 it was properly Tinkoff awesome - Lemond rode all three in 89 and 90.
LeMond didn't ride all three, ever.
You're right. He only rode the Vuelta in 1983. Wikipedia's GTs entry for him is a bit confusing - it has the Worlds included.0 -
Lemond rode the vuelta once, in 1983. He did not finish.
Not quite sure where you lifted the stat from about 1989/90It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
Someone who did ride all three in one year, and more than once, was Marino Lejarreta. Came 5th in the 1989 Tour after coming 20th in the Vuelta and 10th in the Giro.
Vuelta: April 24th to May 15th
Giro: May 25th to June 11th
Tour: July 1st to July 23rd
An astonishing effort.It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
He was improving. One more GT and he might have been competing for the victory!0
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Froome will go, not to win.
Brailsford seems to think it is good prep for the Tour.
I would tend to agree.
4 of the last five Tour winners rode the vuelta the year before. Many of those who were notable disappointments at this Tour were absent from la Vuelta last year.
Seems to me Vuelta is now the preparation race for the Tour while the ToB is the best prep for the Worlds.
How many of the tour winners went on to rider the Vuelta?
How many back-to-back Tour winners have there been in the last 6 years?
In a post-aggressive-doping environment, having a good winter is much more of a big deal than it used to be, as you can't ingest sh!tloads of drugs to accelerate form gain*
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How many back-to-back Tour winners have there been in the last 6 years?
Bertie 2009/2010*
Froome would be on a hat trick if he'd stayed off the deck last year**
*no explanation needed
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I just think the problem with winning the tour is that the rider loses focus. A quick glance at wikipedia* tells me the only riders, since 1960, to win the tour the year after their first victory were Armstrong**, Indurain, Fignon, Hinault and Merkcx*. Pretty good company.
*subject to my general inability to use wikipedia demonstrated above
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actually the thread was about who in the peloton has something to prove...
rather than whether the Vuelta is a good preparation for the following tourleft the forum March 20230 -
Froome rode last year’s Vuelta after crashing out of the 2014 Tour, and there is a thought that – although he finished second to Alberto Contador in the race – it helped get him in the right condition to prepare for the Tour over the winter.
“It’s a bit early to say 100% but I think potentially it could be on the cards,”
Froome said on Sky Sports News . “I know it would be a massive challenge to go back to another Grand Tour and to go there with the aim of winning the general classification, but that’s in the back of my mind and maybe could be on the cards.”
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/27/chris-froome-considers-racing-vuelta-tour-de-france0 -
I'll be in Spain to watch a couple of Vuelta stages, so would be delighted to see the likes of Froome, Nibali, Quintana in the line-up.
Anyone know when the road book is likely to be available ? No sign of it on velorooms yet...0 -
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Bouhanni and Navarro - are they in?
Simon Yates0 -
Cancellara.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Cancellara.
Cancellara hoping to do Eneco then Vuelta0 -
Great news. Nairo's riding the Vuelta
http://movistarteam.com/noticias/2015-8-3/nairo-quintana-correra-la-vuelta-a-espana0 -
Nairo/Valverde
vs Nibali/Aru/Landa
vs TJVG
vs Pozzo
vs Majka
vs Maybe Froome0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19671290#p19671290]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:Great news. Nairo's riding the Vuelta
http://movistarteam.com/noticias/2015-8-3/nairo-quintana-correra-la-vuelta-a-espana
there's mention of Hoy in that article - they finally signing a sprinter?0 -
Shouldn't that be:Nairo/Valverde
vs Nibali/Aru/Landa
vs TJVG
vs Pozzo
vs Majka
vs Maybe Froome
Nairo vs Valverde
vs Nibali vs Aru vs Landa
I can't imagine there not being any team debates over who gets to be leader :P0
