Stage 17 TdF 2015 Digne-les-Bains / Pra Loup *SPOILERS*
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Yeah that's his own bike. Maybe just got confused. Odd.0
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Put his bike on the ground and sat down with his head in his hands. DS squats down in front of him with his hands on his shoulders and give him a real mouthful.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19660861#p19660861]The Loyal Lieutenant[/url] wrote:Have I missed the discussion about Kwia's DS berating him at the roadside when he climbed off? Graphic scenes on the highlights.
Did Kwia abandon then? I still have 12 pages of posts to catch up on
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oops DP!0
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Definitely looked like Sagans paintjob on the bike that Sagan hopped back on in the clip? Maybe they swapped again another few metres down the road?
He definitely said in the interview that he rode Sagan's bike to the bottom of the climb and then changed but the footage defo looks like he got on a bike that Rogers had just put the chain back on. Why would Sagan give him his if he'd just shipped his chain? There always to be a bit of mystery surrounding a Contador spill.It was Sagan's bike for the descent, a change to one that fit, and riding solo - all while Majka was torching his reputation for places on the stage, that cost Alberto a chunk of that time.
At what point did he take Sagan's bike? He rides off on his own from that footage
It was what I recall from the translation of Contador's post-stage interview. I might be mistaken.Edinburgh Revolution Curve
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He definitely said in the interview that he rode Sagan's bike to the bottom of the climb and then changed but the footage defo looks like he got on a bike that Rogers had just put the chain back on. Why would Sagan give him his if he'd just shipped his chain? There always to be a bit of mystery surrounding a Contador spill.It was Sagan's bike for the descent, a change to one that fit, and riding solo - all while Majka was torching his reputation for places on the stage, that cost Alberto a chunk of that time.
At what point did he take Sagan's bike? He rides off on his own from that footage
It was what I recall from the translation of Contador's post-stage interview. I might be mistaken.
Edit: Off course a couple of hundred metres further down the climb he might have realised there was a problem and changed it then. But in that footage he defo rides off on his own bike, you can see his number, 41, on it.
That would explain the time loss a bit more too.0 -
Yeah, see the edit to my post. A realisation of a mechanical problem a little further on is the most obvious explanation.
Definitely looked like Sagans paintjob on the bike that Sagan hopped back on in the clip? Maybe they swapped again another few metres down the road?
He definitely said in the interview that he rode Sagan's bike to the bottom of the climb and then changed but the footage defo looks like he got on a bike that Rogers had just put the chain back on. Why would Sagan give him his if he'd just shipped his chain? There always to be a bit of mystery surrounding a Contador spill.It was Sagan's bike for the descent, a change to one that fit, and riding solo - all while Majka was torching his reputation for places on the stage, that cost Alberto a chunk of that time.
At what point did he take Sagan's bike? He rides off on his own from that footage
It was what I recall from the translation of Contador's post-stage interview. I might be mistaken.0 -
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Not sure if the DS was giving it one last go at motivating him to get back on or because he wasn't buying it. It was certainly in stark contrast to how the team reacted when TJ climbed off. Poor guy looked a mess, physically and emotionally.Saw the video of Kiwa's abandon.
Had to chuckle at the abuse he was getting from the DS.
Incidentally, has anyone heard the reason either of them abandoned?0 -
Etixx management seem to enjoy giving Kwiatkowski a bit of abuse.0
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EQS showing Sky how to respect the jersey....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0
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Footage of Contador after crash
http://nos.nl/tour/video/2048387-nos-camera-ziet-contador-opkrabbelen.html
Note he does not even try to get off the racing line. Not exactly showing respect to other riders is he. Thankfully no one else hit him. All clearly cornering better than he did. He only loses 25 secs getting back on the bike but was over 2 mins down at the finish. Probably would have been dropped on the final climb anyway at that rate
2 x fines :roll: Littering and aren't you supposed to move over to the right ?0 -
Put his bike on the ground and sat down with his head in his hands. DS squats down in front of him with his hands on his shoulders and give him a real mouthful.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19660861#p19660861]The Loyal Lieutenant[/url] wrote:Have I missed the discussion about Kwia's DS berating him at the roadside when he climbed off? Graphic scenes on the highlights.
Did Kwia abandon then? I still have 12 pages of posts to catch up on
OMG! Why? What was wrong?0 -
Heat of the moment trying to get their GC guy back in the race can be forgiven and fair play to Rogers as he does move to the inside of the corner once Contador is on his way. Agree about the littering though.Footage of Contador after crash
http://nos.nl/tour/video/2048387-nos-camera-ziet-contador-opkrabbelen.html
Note he does not even try to get off the racing line. Not exactly showing respect to other riders is he. Thankfully no one else hit him. All clearly cornering better than he did. He only loses 25 secs getting back on the bike but was over 2 mins down at the finish. Probably would have been dropped on the final climb anyway at that rate
2 x fines. Littering and aren't you supposed to move over to the right ?0 -
Etixx management seem to enjoy giving Kwiatkowski a bit of abuse.
He's leaving for more money.
He can suck it up.0 -
So is it possible they try to put AC back on his original bike and then find the bike is no good and then Sagan gives AC his bike further down the road? AC would have lost half a minute to a minute in that original incident and he ended up over two minutes down so there may have been more farting about with bikes further down the descent. If Sagan was with AC on the way down then it's unlikely AC/Sagan would have lost more time as they can both descend.
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"You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
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So is it possible they try to put AC back on his original bike and then find the bike is no good and then Sagan gives AC his bike further down the road? AC would have lost half a minute to a minute in that original incident and he ended up over two minutes down so there may have been more farting about with bikes further down the descent. If Sagan was with AC on the way down then it's unlikely AC/Sagan would have lost more time as they can both descend.
In the footage I saw, Sagan and one other stopped with AC. There was an issue with AC's bike they weren't able to resolve between them, so Sagan gave up his bike. AC got to the bottom of the descent and swapped back to his spare.0 -
Yeah, see the edit to my post. A realisation of a mechanical problem a little further on is the most obvious explanation.
Definitely looked like Sagans paintjob on the bike that Sagan hopped back on in the clip? Maybe they swapped again another few metres down the road?
He definitely said in the interview that he rode Sagan's bike to the bottom of the climb and then changed but the footage defo looks like he got on a bike that Rogers had just put the chain back on. Why would Sagan give him his if he'd just shipped his chain? There always to be a bit of mystery surrounding a Contador spill.It was Sagan's bike for the descent, a change to one that fit, and riding solo - all while Majka was torching his reputation for places on the stage, that cost Alberto a chunk of that time.
At what point did he take Sagan's bike? He rides off on his own from that footage
It was what I recall from the translation of Contador's post-stage interview. I might be mistaken.
Bit slow on the old duplicate posting on my phone!! Watched again and everybody def leaves the clip on their own bike, as you say Sagan and Bert must have swapped further down out of shot after AC finds his bike being not so rideable after all.Edinburgh Revolution Curve
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BMC are saying TJ abandoned due to respiratory infection he's had since stage 13.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/racing/tour-de-france/bmc-we-didnt-see-tejays-withdrawal-coming-1839360 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19660891#p19660891]The Loyal Lieutenant[/url] wrote:So is it possible they try to put AC back on his original bike and then find the bike is no good and then Sagan gives AC his bike further down the road? AC would have lost half a minute to a minute in that original incident and he ended up over two minutes down so there may have been more farting about with bikes further down the descent. If Sagan was with AC on the way down then it's unlikely AC/Sagan would have lost more time as they can both descend.
In the footage I saw, Sagan and one other stopped with AC. There was an issue with AC's bike they weren't able to resolve between them, so Sagan gave up his bike. AC got to the bottom of the descent and swapped back to his spare.
AC stopped three times on the way down then? Blimey, hence the two minutes plus he lost. Ahhh...“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein
"You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
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So that's twice now Contador has almost managed to take out a Sky rider on a descentFootage of Contador after crash
http://nos.nl/tour/video/2048387-nos-camera-ziet-contador-opkrabbelen.html
Note he does not even try to get off the racing line. Not exactly showing respect to other riders is he. Thankfully no one else hit him. All clearly cornering better than he did. He only loses 25 secs getting back on the bike but was over 2 mins down at the finish. Probably would have been dropped on the final climb anyway at that rate 0 -
Mathias Frank is 8th on GC. How did that happen? That's some top class Zubeldia work.
I noticed him today for the first time, while scanning GC for Majka. His name is ironically impossible to miss. (Frank rode out of his skin from the break when they were given silly time by the peloton.)...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Mathias Frank is 8th on GC. How did that happen? That's some top class Zubeldia work.
True. He's been top 15 since stage 10 but before today his best stage position was 18th.0 -
I've also just noticed that Samuel Sanchez is 13th. I didn't even know he was in the race. He's now my PTP pick for tomorrow.Mathias Frank is 8th on GC. How did that happen? That's some top class Zubeldia work.
True. He's been top 15 since stage 10 but before today his best stage position was 18th.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Someone on another forum put Pinot's fall down to a pedal strike. I just watched the replay a few times and you can definitey see him coast around the first part of the hairpin and then with his first turn of the cranks his LH pedal strikes, lifting the backwheel slightly and throws him off.0
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Someone on another forum put Pinot's fall down to a pedal strike. I just watched the replay a few times and you can definitey see him coast around the first part of the hairpin and then with his first turn of the cranks his LH pedal strikes, lifting the backwheel slightly and throws him off.
Definitely. Watched highlights with a mate earlier and he spotted that straight away so we "rewound" it to confirm - I'd missed it on the live coverage.0 -
Footage of Contador after crash
http://nos.nl/tour/video/2048387-nos-camera-ziet-contador-opkrabbelen.html
Note he does not even try to get off the racing line. Not exactly showing respect to other riders is he. Thankfully no one else hit him. All clearly cornering better than he did. He only loses 25 secs getting back on the bike but was over 2 mins down at the finish. Probably would have been dropped on the final climb anyway at that rate
I did wonder whether our lucky fan we could see with a camera on the hillside in the tv-coverage would deliver. He sure has. Of all places to watch the race he picks the descent and exactly the place where Alberto crashes. The sneaky fellow here knew something!
It's not the.. no, couldn't possibly be..
...the famous Koppenberg-fan!?
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Etixx management seem to enjoy giving Kwiatkowski a bit of abuse.
He's leaving for more money.
He can suck it up.
I think that QS is the environment for you if you're one of those people who can get motivated by being yelled at. Pat, Peeters, Cav on a bad day..."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Watched the coverage today - how did a hipster, presumably riding a fixie, win a stage of the tdf?2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
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