Are sky clean or not?
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It will be published online the same day the magazine appears so anyone who wants to read it should be able to.0
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And frankly it doesn't matter where it is published as all the cycling media will pick it up anyway.0
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It will be published online the same day the magazine appears so anyone who wants to read it should be able to.
Welcome to Pro Race Richard0 -
Who is the target audience for something like this? The people who are already convinced Froome is doping are just going to read it and somehow extract confirmation of what they "know". The general public probably won't care very much. If it's online anyone with any interest will end up reading it anyway.Do you not think with it being published by Esquire that it will miss its target audience? I'll confess to showing my ignorance here as I don't know anything about esquire magazine0 -
Hi Richard, welcome to the forum.
Is there anything in the testing which sheds any light on the improvement in Froome's performance from pre Vuelta 2011 to today?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Who is the target audience for something like this? The people who are already convinced Froome is doping are just going to read it and somehow extract confirmation of what they "know". The general public probably won't care very much. If it's online anyone with any interest will end up reading it anyway.Do you not think with it being published by Esquire that it will miss its target audience? I'll confess to showing my ignorance here as I don't know anything about esquire magazine
As I said I don't know anything about Esquire it doesn't feature heavily in Manx Newsagents and I've never thought of reading it from a cycling interest angle. Time to change my reading habits methinks.0 -
Sorry - no offence intended but I kind of consider GQ and Esquire interchangable. I only really buy them when I'm forced to accept that my clothes are no longer acceptable in polite society or I have a flight somewhere (English Cycling mags are nt sold in Schipol)
You ll pick up some sartorial guidance as well YP, it ll do you good!We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Sorry - no offence intended but I kind of consider GQ and Esquire interchangable. I only really buy them when I'm forced to accept that my clothes are no longer acceptable in polite society or I have a flight somewhere (English Cycling mags are nt sold in Schipol)
You ll pick up some sartorial guidance as well YP, it ll do you good!
Dave I shIt you not I've just googled Esquire and it seems the money I was saving for a new groupset should really be spent on new underwear and male grooming products.0 -
Sorry - no offence intended but I kind of consider GQ and Esquire interchangable. I only really buy them when I'm forced to accept that my clothes are no longer acceptable in polite society or I have a flight somewhere (English Cycling mags are nt sold in Schipol)
You ll pick up some sartorial guidance as well YP, it ll do you good!
Dave I shoot you not I've just googled Esquire and it seems the money I was saving for a new groupset should really be spent on new underwear and male grooming products.
:P
You'll be a hit in the Rock's bars on a Sat night0 -
Hi Richard, welcome to the forum.
Is there anything in the testing which sheds any light on the improvement in Froome's performance from pre Vuelta 2011 to today?
Thank you and yes. This is the most interesting bit for me.0 -
Hi Richard, welcome to the forum.
Is there anything in the testing which sheds any light on the improvement in Froome's performance from pre Vuelta 2011 to today?
Thank you and yes. This is the most interesting bit for me.
Perhaps it's the intensive training regime provided for him by one of the best funded and most progressive teams in cycling history that finally allowed his athletic talent to flourish (after numerous well documented setbacks)?
That same team clearly thought they were dealing with an athletic phenom when they signed him.
That's my hunch.0 -
Hi Richard, welcome to the forum.
Is there anything in the testing which sheds any light on the improvement in Froome's performance from pre Vuelta 2011 to today?
Thank you and yes. This is the most interesting bit for me.
Perhaps it's the intensive training regime provided for him by one of the best funded and most progressive teams in cycling history that finally allowed his athletic talent to flourish (after numerous well documented setbacks)?
That same team clearly thought they were dealing with an athletic phenom when they signed him.
That's my hunch.
It's all in the handlebar spacers
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Hi Richard, welcome to the forum.
Is there anything in the testing which sheds any light on the improvement in Froome's performance from pre Vuelta 2011 to today?
Thank you and yes. This is the most interesting bit for me.
Perhaps it's the intensive training regime provided for him by one of the best funded and most progressive teams in cycling history that finally allowed his athletic talent to flourish (after numerous well documented setbacks)?
That same team clearly thought they were dealing with an athletic phenom when they signed him.
That's my hunch.
Perhaps“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Ah, a journo turns up and suddenly everyone's well behaved.
We were being very civilised before that weren't we?
On the other hand, Digger has gone so far out of left field now that even Michael Rasmussen is asking him what he's on about....We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Ah, a journo turns up and suddenly everyone's well behaved.
We were being very civilised before that weren't we?
On the other hand, Digger has gone so far out of left field now that even Michael Rasmussen is asking him what he's on about....
THIS I gotta see...the Chicken and the Freaky Nutter...
EDIT: I think that's Chicken having a dig at Walsh. I could be wrong, his tweet's a bit confusing. Cor, he does spend a lot of time whining about being hard done-by, doesn't he0 -
Ah, a journo turns up and suddenly everyone's well behaved.
It's the other way round.
I see many similarities with the questioning of David Walsh's impartiality with regard to Team Sky/Froome (considering the paper he writes for) to Richard Moore seeking to embed himself in Bikeradar and fawn over the quality of the posting and be enamoured by the fierce intellect being displayed by the esteemed contributors. Afterall, the £5 many of us coughed up for the Cycling Podcasts is what's enabling Mrs Moore to get the extension done, Friebe to get his hair coiffed and Birnie to continue on his quest to bring unbridled joy to the masses.0 -
Chris Froome at the Web Summit in the RDS: “It sounds silly, but we really are on that edge, pushing our bodies to the absolute limit, day in, day out.”...
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/web-summit-tour-de-france-talk-sidesteps-issue-of-doping-1.24160420 -
Ah, a journo turns up and suddenly everyone's well behaved.
He he
For my part, I've come to my opinion through various ways. But its my opinion, and I'm not on a crusade to try to make others follow suit. Suffice to say that if a journo like Will Fotheringham interviews someone like Vayer again re his views on Froome, this time I wont be challenging Fotheringham for giving him a platform, much though I detest Vayer. He can get on with it. If others want to do so, they can go knock themselves out.
For my part, tranquilo.0 -
Chris Froome at the Web Summit in the RDS: “It sounds silly, but we really are on that edge, pushing our bodies to the absolute limit, day in, day out.”...
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/web-summit-tour-de-france-talk-sidesteps-issue-of-doping-1.2416042
What terrible journalism.0 -
Chris Froome at the Web Summit in the RDS: “It sounds silly, but we really are on that edge, pushing our bodies to the absolute limit, day in, day out.”...
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/web-summit-tour-de-france-talk-sidesteps-issue-of-doping-1.2416042
What terrible journalism.
Its fair to say that if it had been a piece about Dan Martin, the journo would have offered to take him out for a dinner date, together with a promise not to kiss and tell, and to make Dan breakfast before leaving the next morning0 -
Ah, a journo turns up and suddenly everyone's well behaved.
Well.... Depends on the journo, doesn't it?
That **** ***** can get ********* by the horse with the biggest **** in the stable.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
I miss Blankety Blank"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Chris Froome at the Web Summit in the RDS: “It sounds silly, but we really are on that edge, pushing our bodies to the absolute limit, day in, day out.”...
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/web-summit-tour-de-france-talk-sidesteps-issue-of-doping-1.2416042
What terrible journalism.
My thoughts exactly.
As well as doping, the other topics Froome "sidestepped" were corruption within UCI, Vino bribing some big wins and any other of pro cycling's contentious issues of the last decade.
And not just that: what about Ebola and AIDS!?
Froome's silence speaks volumes.
Topics: Ian O'Riordan
Irish Times
Shite Journalism0 -
What terrible journalism.
My thoughts exactly.
As well as doping, the other topics Froome "sidestepped" were corruption within UCI, Vino bribing some big wins and any other of pro cycling's contentious issues of the last decade.
And not just that: what about Ebola and AIDS!?
Froome's silence speaks volumes.
Topics: Ian O'Riordan
Irish Times
Shite Journalism
A few years ago I read an interview with a former (and very successful) editor of Gawker.com - back before it got surpassed by Buzzfeed - and he said the secret of success in internet 'journalism' was to spend half an hour crafting a great headline to attract clicks and then spend ten minutes writing a story to justify it. It's just Content Generation dictated by Google Analytics.
As a judge of a cycling journalist I ask three questions:
1. Have they written a book? (excluding personal memoirs and ghostwritten autobiographies - books that actually needed some proper research)
2. Have they attended a race outside their own country other than the Tour or the World Champs (or a paid jolly like the Tour of Turkey)?
3. Have they worked as a journalist outside cycling? (Preferably outside sport)
If they've done those, or a least got close, then they're probably worth reading.Twitter: @RichN950 -
What terrible journalism.
My thoughts exactly.
As well as doping, the other topics Froome "sidestepped" were corruption within UCI, Vino bribing some big wins and any other of pro cycling's contentious issues of the last decade.
And not just that: what about Ebola and AIDS!?
Froome's silence speaks volumes.
Topics: Ian O'Riordan
Irish Times
Shite Journalism
A few years ago I read an interview with a former (and very successful) editor of Gawker.com - back before it got surpassed by Buzzfeed - and he said the secret of success in internet 'journalism' was to spend half an hour crafting a great headline to attract clicks and then spend ten minutes writing a story to justify it. It's just Content Generation dictated by Google Analytics.
As a judge of a cycling journalist I ask three questions:
1. Have they written a book? (excluding personal memoirs and ghostwritten autobiographies - books that actually needed some proper research)
2. Have they attended a race outside their own country other than the Tour or the World Champs (or a paid jolly like the Tour of Turkey)?
3. Have they worked as a journalist outside cycling? (Preferably outside sport)
If they've done those, or a least got close, then they're probably worth reading.
That narrows the field down a fair bit. probably for the best.0 -
What terrible journalism.
My thoughts exactly.
As well as doping, the other topics Froome "sidestepped" were corruption within UCI, Vino bribing some big wins and any other of pro cycling's contentious issues of the last decade.
And not just that: what about Ebola and AIDS!?
Froome's silence speaks volumes.
Topics: Ian O'Riordan
Irish Times
Shite Journalism
A few years ago I read an interview with a former (and very successful) editor of Gawker.com - back before it got surpassed by Buzzfeed - and he said the secret of success in internet 'journalism' was to spend half an hour crafting a great headline to attract clicks and then spend ten minutes writing a story to justify it. It's just Content Generation dictated by Google Analytics.
As a judge of a cycling journalist I ask three questions:
1. Have they written a book? (excluding personal memoirs and ghostwritten autobiographies - books that actually needed some proper research)
2. Have they attended a race outside their own country other than the Tour or the World Champs (or a paid jolly like the Tour of Turkey)?
3. Have they worked as a journalist outside cycling? (Preferably outside sport)
If they've done those, or a least got close, then they're probably worth reading.
That narrows the field down a fair bit. probably for the best.
I'd probably qualify RichN's question 2 to "Have you attended a Belgian Spring one day race in the p!ss pouring rain having paid for the whole trip out of your own pocket"0
