Mechanical Doping update

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  • cougiecougie Posts: 22,512
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    inseine wrote:
    There are some systems in existence that don’t use something that emits enough heat to look ‘unusual’ ( a form of kinetic energy recovery system ) if anyone / team, has one on their bike(s) Id be amazed, but stranger things have happened at sea, especially if a shed load of money is available.
    Energy = heat, I don’t think there’s any way round it
    Well not exactly, the heat is a byproduct of an inefficient system. Like lightbulb are designed to emit light but also emit a bit of heat (much less since we moved to LED)
    But yeah it's hard to see what motors don't give out any heat... and they are also x raying bikes, which would be game over.



    Only X raying the bike that makes it to the finish.

    So gain an advantage with a motor and throw it away with a bike change ? And where does the team car nip off to along the route with its e bike on ? Hides behind a bush ?
  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,655
    A very competent XC rider, who isn’t a great road rider, suddenly starts skinning world champions, on the road. He’s physically / biologically ‘unusual’, but not that unusual. The only thing that counts in his favour, is that the other riders, are in teams, that are a relative shower of s
    I’m afraid your use of punctuation make it very difficult to understand what you’re talking about.
    I realize it’s a madcap theory, but could you spell it out in a more understandable way please?
  • cougiecougie Posts: 22,512
    I think he's saying Froome has a motor ? He did race XC before the road ?

    So presumably Hoy and co had the motors too ? Brailsford brought the track squad from zeros to heros too.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 22,552

    To be fair, I don’t really care. There are ways around the system, apply the ‘duck test’ if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, chances are, it’s a duck. I really don’t like Sky, I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them. Only time will tell, if it’s ‘tin hat’ tine or not.
    The problem is it doesn't look or quack look a duck. You are holding up a tube of toothpaste and shouting "Behold the duck". You may very well believe it's a duck, but it isn't.
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  • gsk82gsk82 Posts: 2,304
    RichN95 wrote:

    To be fair, I don’t really care. There are ways around the system, apply the ‘duck test’ if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, chances are, it’s a duck. I really don’t like Sky, I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them. Only time will tell, if it’s ‘tin hat’ tine or not.
    The problem is it doesn't look or quack look a duck. You are holding up a tube of toothpaste and shouting "Behold the duck". You may very well believe it's a duck, but it isn't.

    The confusion is understandable if it's a tube of Quaquafresh. :D
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  • milemuncher1milemuncher1 Posts: 1,472
    If there is something odd, it will most likely be hidden in the free hub or possibly in the bottom bracket. It would be easier to cover up something in the free hub, by getting a ‘puncture’ just before the end of any stage it’s employed in, and changing wheels.
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 5,279
    Dude, get thee hence to The Clinic and join the happy clappy people.
  • larkimlarkim Posts: 2,232
    If there is something odd, it will most likely be hidden in the free hub or possibly in the bottom bracket. It would be easier to cover up something in the free hub, by getting a ‘puncture’ just before the end of any stage it’s employed in, and changing wheels.
    Ah, so that’s the most likely scenario. So it’s employed a lot then? I must admit I’ve lost count of the number of times Froome and other riders have stopped 500m from the finish to swap wheels to hide the motors.
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  • darkhairedlorddarkhairedlord Posts: 4,556
    larkim wrote:
    If there is something odd, it will most likely be hidden in the free hub or possibly in the bottom bracket. It would be easier to cover up something in the free hub, by getting a ‘puncture’ just before the end of any stage it’s employed in, and changing wheels.
    Ah, so that’s the most likely scenario. So it’s employed a lot then? I must admit I’ve lost count of the number of times Froome and other riders have stopped 500m from the finish to swap wheels to hide the motors.
    Maybe they have a hidden GPS, that'll make them faster.
  • cougiecougie Posts: 22,512
    Quintana replaced both wheels yesterday. He's obviously running double motors...
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 9,289
    cougie wrote:
    Quintana replaced both wheels yesterday. He's obviously running double motors...

    An interesting strategy, though possibly needs some work on the execution.
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  • apriliariderapriliarider Posts: 222
    gsk82 wrote:
    Sky have super special invisible, weightless cooling systems so the motor doesn't show up. They come from the same factory as the invisibly, ultra thin biomechanical pistons they have inside their shorts.

    That's just stupid I'm afraid - Sky have obviously bred a race of micro pixies that sneak into the Shimano factory and crawl inside the wheels as they are being made - when they sense through their integrated bluetooth mind sensors that Froomes heart rate is going too high then they all run around the wheel generating instant thrust. I have heard that they have to wear tinfoil hat's and jackets so they don't show up on the iPad heat sensor thingies.......
  • milemuncher1milemuncher1 Posts: 1,472
    cougie wrote:
    Quintana replaced both wheels yesterday. He's obviously running double motors...
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  • larkimlarkim Posts: 2,232
    So you really think it's a possibility that a pure climber running in the peleton on a flat stage 3.5km from the end would have been running a motor which meant that they were guaranteed to lose over a minute through getting rid of said motors? You must be just giggling at the fact we're even responding to your trolling drivel!!
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  • cougiecougie Posts: 22,512
    Genius Idea for Quintana to leave his powered wheels with the neutral Mavic service. They'd never spot anything
  • apriliariderapriliarider Posts: 222
    larkim wrote:
    So you really think it's a possibility that a pure climber running in the peloton on a flat stage 3.5km from the end would have been running a motor which meant that they were guaranteed to lose over a minute through getting rid of said motors? You must be just giggling at the fact we're even responding to your trolling drivel!!

    :lol::lol:
  • milemuncher1milemuncher1 Posts: 1,472
    larkim wrote:
    So you really think it's a possibility that a pure climber running in the peloton on a flat stage 3.5km from the end would have been running a motor which meant that they were guaranteed to lose over a minute through getting rid of said motors? You must be just giggling at the fact we're even responding to your trolling drivel!!


    It would need to be a ‘stage 19’, where you know without a ‘miraculous intervention’ you’re getting your censored handed to you. I doubt they’d ever run it routinely. Someone is going to snitch, sooner or later.
  • milemuncher1milemuncher1 Posts: 1,472
    cougie wrote:
    Genius Idea for Quintana to leave his powered wheels with the neutral Mavic service. They'd never spot anything

    Quintana is Movistar, not Sky. I know they aren’t exactly 100 percent behind him, but they wouldn’t throw him under the bus.
  • above_the_cowsabove_the_cows Posts: 10,890
    You know there is a big cycle race going on at the moment, perhaps some might like to consider commenting on that rather than playing wind up.
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 22,552
    Someone is going to snitch, sooner or later.
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  • milemuncher1milemuncher1 Posts: 1,472
    An unusual amount of wheel changes / bike changes today :? News of an easy cheat is going to spread through the peloton like Herpes in Gibraltar.
  • iainf72iainf72 Posts: 15,838
    An unusual amount of wheel changes / bike changes today :?

    Might be to do with the falling off / flat tires though.

    Or magic wheel related. On a flat stage. On the 2nd day of the Tour.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • cougiecougie Posts: 22,512
    Have you been out in the sun without a hat again MM ?
  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 1,550
    Clearly the first precursors of the next level mechanical doping are appearing right beneath our noses. They are not even being subtle about it anymore. Milemuncher was right all along and no one listened! For shame! For shame!

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  • bobmcstuffbobmcstuff Posts: 7,712
    Saw that earlier, the spiky thing at the back looks like it would do a lot of damage in a crash...
  • bompingtonbompington Posts: 6,796
    Only time will tell, if it’s ‘tin hat’ tine or not.
    Maybe, but I think we can put in a fairly conclusive interim report right now
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 9,289
    bompington wrote:
    Only time will tell, if it’s ‘tin hat’ tine or not.
    Maybe, but I think we can put in a fairly conclusive interim report right now

    I think there's a potential ATFHF there that he needs to explain.
    “Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

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