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Coz child murder is just f***ing hilarious obviously.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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What, don't you think comparing a law-abiding politician with a child murderer is really funny? Typical leftie with no sense of humour, obvs.
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I guess you can't find any either.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I'm sure that a reformed NHS will do sense of humour implants soon.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Captain Cliché. As sure as night follows day.
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So says Captain Humourless. A bit predictable...
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But you are ahead in the race for the 'Chasey Lite' trophy 😉
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Labour's swift fall from grace continues...wonder how many other skeletons are in the leftie closet?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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There do seem to be a patterns emerging.
Starmer caves into the right wing press at every turn, and won't just sit on the massive majority he's got. Instead of keeping his various constituencies happy, he's pissing them all off.
He's trying to be too Tory/Reform (PFI, EU etc).
I'm not normally a great Monbiot fan, but it's hard to disagree with much of this:
November 29, 2024
1. The implicit deal behind Starmerism was this: you might not like what he stands for (or fails to stand for), but at least he knows how to win elections. If you want the Tories out, he’s your only hope.
But now? It’s as if he’s going out of his way to lose in 2029. 🧵
2. Labour will win in 2029 only if it has made a discernible difference to people’s lives, on crucial fronts such as housing and the NHS. That means, for example, major new provision of social housing alongside effective rent controls, and huge new public capital investment in the NHS, schools etc.
3. Instead, he is fixated on “market mechanisms”: trimming the public budget while relying on the private sector to deliver. If only we’d had 45 years of experience to show us what happens when you rely on the private sector. Then we might have an idea of how this is likely to pan out ….
4. We would know, for example, that the private sector will never release enough homes to allow prices to fall, and will always game the system to ensure that the promised social housing magically turns into “exclusive” developments of executive homes.
5. We would know that private finance initiatives are a terrible deal for the taxpayer, loading the NHS, schools etc with crippling debts, while delivering substandard facilities and services, and failing to meet public needs.
6. We would know that without massive public investment in the NHS and other essential services, waiting lists will only grow, and ever more people will be forced into private provision or no provision at all.
7. We would know that public austerity is the mother of false economies, simply transferring costs to citizens or to other arms of the state. This is why record public spending is coupled with systemic failure in public services.
8. And we would know that such policies generate massive disillusionment with the political process. We’d know that it’s one thing if the Tories do it, because people might then see Labour as an alternative. But if Labour does it, people then see they have nowhere to turn. Except to the far right.
9. So the extraordinary thing I’m seeing is that, when faced with a choice between appeasing corporate power and winning the next election, Starmer takes option one.
10. He is not an election-winning machine. He is a power-appeasing machine. When it comes to the crunch, he would rather keep the corporate lobbyists and the billionaire press happy than win the next election. Because what should be blindingly obvious by now is that he cannot do both.
On one page: bsky.app/profile/geor...
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Can't actually understand what she has resigned for in this instance. Seems the spent conviction was known about already, just not publicised and why should it be if spent?
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I suspect it's more that Starmer was happy to see her go after her comments about P+O.
It seems like an incredibly minor offense that she was poorly advised about. Anyone but a labour MP and the right wing media would be spitting feathers at the police because I bet they didn't catch the mugger, but the person mugged now has this hanging over them for life!
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Also Starmer made some rather silly statements about lawbreakers not being suitable lawmakers. He doesn't come across as a great boss to work for.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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Seriously, the general consensus on here is that it's all the fault of right wing media? She reported her work phone stolen, gets issued a replacement. Her employer later does an audit and finds that she is using the stolen phone to call relatives and they report the matter to the police. She's subsequently interviewed under caution and can offer no reasonable explanation so goes "No comment" and eventually pleads guilty to fraud by false representation.
When she gets the job in Cabinet, she apparently glossed over some of the details of her conviction, which according to Starmer's chief of staff, made her position untenable.
I get that Cake Stop is predominantly lefty, but FFS!!!!!
How many people on here who are responsible for hiring people for responsible positions would be happy to appoint someone who had a conviction for dishonesty and then was shown to be further dishonest by not fully revealing their past?
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plenty on the right were (and still are) happy to appoint and support johnson, multiple cases of material dishonesty, betrayals, incessant lying in office, taking bungs, breaking his own covid laws etc., the right wing media were remarkably silent on most of this
which righty cake stoppers called for johnson to go?
btw i think it's clear she was being dishonest, got caught and paid the price, if she subsequently hid the facts then she's got what was coming, unlike johnson
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Go back through this forum and you will find jokes about Rolf Harris, Jimmy Saville, Fred and Rose West, Maddie McCann to name but few. Some were funnier than others obviously. But it seems that people's left heroes are off limits.
Can people not see that the target of a joke is not the same as the subject? No wonder there seems to be tumbleweed blowing through this once popular forum.
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Although I took a hiatus of a couple of years from here and have no way or can't even be bothered to check back the last few years, I accept that you'd be right about not everyone on the right calling for Johnson to go, although there was plenty of criticism of him across the spectrum of the news outlets.
I would however be surprised if people defended him, citing that it was all the fault of lefty journalists. The knee jerk reaction from the left is to blame the "RW media" or the "Tory Press".
Jeez, Brian and Jez have her painted as a victim because her dishonesty was reported. Btw she's still being less than honest in her explanation of her actions that led to her conviction.
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??? Where is the great man?
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I can save you the bother. None of the obvious right wingers criticised BJ. I think his actions winding up lefties was seen as a positive.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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Imagine the reaction on here if she was a Tory MP and had done the same thing...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Mega flounce a few weeks back. It's on the US politics/Biden thread. He had a bit of a meltdown.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Anyway, we kick off the weekend with a milestone for UK politics announced by Alastair Campbell on Twitter, which appears to still have some entertainment value 😀
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It's not on the centre leftie list of approved joke subjects. Hey ho 🙂
PS welcome back Bally. Stick around - as you can see, the forum needs a bit more political balance. Although tbh that's nothing new.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
mine would be the same for both, i've a low opinion of politicians of all flavours, they keep lowering the bar
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I don't remember CS getting terribly worked up about this potentially criminal offence:
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Oh sit down. Current Leader of the Opposition has admitted hacking: not a peep from any of you. It's just a bit of a surprise to see someone resign over a spent conviction when so much worse has been let slide and actively defended over the past few years. Again, not a peep from anyone. Of course if you view everything through a partisan lens then I guess you can excuse anything if the rosette is the right colour.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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i'd missed that one
with judgement/ethics that bad, not a good choice as leader for any party, let alone a potential pm
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Feel like you're doing a lot of reading into things that aren't there and getting angry about it.
Starmer clearly didn't like her enough to spend political capital on keeping her. I have literally said that's why she's gone.
There's a very clear potential narrative where someone is losing their job for a relatively minor mistake after being violently mugged. A more sympathetic media would certainly push that line. Equally there maybe more gratuitous negative details that could have come out had she clung on to her position.
Underlying all this is the fact that rehabilitation and forgiveness are also apparently parts of our justice system, but no one really seems to be on board with them.
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