BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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'We'?Stevo_666 said:Round and round we go...outside of the EU
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Northern Ireland is not in the EU, but if the rest of the UK were to join the single market, that would mean the UK has effectively rejoined the EU.tailwindhome said:
'We'?Stevo_666 said:Round and round we go...outside of the EU
Hope that's clear.0 -
Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
When did it become compulsory for politicians to have a flag behind them in every picture?0
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Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either1 -
I wish the winners would admit they won and stop stoking the fires.
God it’s tedious.
“We failed to deliver what we promised.
That’s because we promised the impossible.
We are now blaming the other side for not letting us have the impossible.
The people who said this is what would happen are the enemy for telling you this.
The solution is to promise you more impossible things”
Is that it?2 -
It really wouldn’t.kingstongraham said:
Northern Ireland is not in the EU, but if the rest of the UK were to join the single market, that would mean the UK has effectively rejoined the EU.tailwindhome said:
'We'?Stevo_666 said:Round and round we go...outside of the EU
Hope that's clear.
Inserting the word “effectively” does not change something as binary as EU membership0 -
Pretty much 🙄morstar said:I wish the winners would admit they won and stop stoking the fires.
God it’s tedious.
“We failed to deliver what we promised.
That’s because we promised the impossible.
We are now blaming the other side for not letting us have the impossible.
The people who said this is what would happen are the enemy for telling you this.
The solution is to promise you more impossible things”
Is that it?
Project fear becomes reality and it's the fault of those that predicted it.0 -
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I entirely agree.surrey_commuter said:
It really wouldn’t.kingstongraham said:
Northern Ireland is not in the EU, but if the rest of the UK were to join the single market, that would mean the UK has effectively rejoined the EU.tailwindhome said:
'We'?Stevo_666 said:Round and round we go...outside of the EU
Hope that's clear.
Inserting the word “effectively” does not change something as binary as EU membership
On here, it's stevo you need to convince. (Unless the new conservative leader comes out and says something different. )0 -
We seem stuck at the egg breaking stage of omelette production.Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...
No one seems capable of articulating a recipe“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
brexit was akin to the uk shooting itself in the foot to get out of the warStevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...
the foot will never work as well again, there are injuries that cannot be recovered from, the uk can only learn to live with the damage
the fact is that brexiters were liars and traitors, they stripped uk citizens of their rights and severely damaged the uk
one doesn't pander to traitors, one laughs as they fall
never forgive, never forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdHa4BHxQ6c my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...3 -
How can you forget the blue passports and the "UK" stickers for cars?surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...
Plus of course the thrill of delight - even if only inadvertently and several hours in arrears - at successfully smuggling cooked meat into France when going on hols.0 -
It is very easy for us to mock as we place no value on these things which is why my question is genuinewallace_and_gromit said:
How can you forget the blue passports and the "UK" stickers for cars?surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...
Plus of course the thrill of delight - even if only inadvertently and several hours in arrears - at successfully smuggling cooked meat into France when going on hols.
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The EU took several decades to decide its strategy - what started out in the fifties as a way of promoting trade and reducing the likelihood of further conflict in Europe after WW2 eventually morphed into being wannabe superstate. These things take time based on the EU experience.surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...
Until we knew the terms we were leaving on, it's a bit tricky to start on a strategy. Then there were a few other priorities to deal with, like a global pandemic."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The UK doesn't seem ready to have that conversation about what to do next, and what relationship to have with Europe
Or, at least, our politicians don't think we are.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Once we left why was there no list of things we were going to change, scrap or introduce based in 3 categories of what could be done in weeks, months or years.Stevo_666 said:
The EU took several decades to decide its strategy - what started out in the fifties as a way of promoting trade and reducing the likelihood of further conflict in Europe after WW2 eventually morphed into being wannabe superstate. These things take time based on the EU experience.surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...
Until we knew the terms we were leaving on, it's a bit tricky to start on a strategy. Then there were a few other priorities to deal with, like a global pandemic.
If we were totally overwhelmed by the process of leaving then why not say so0 -
Without the benefit of time travel, not sure what you think we should do other than move forward from here?surrey_commuter said:
Once we left why was there no list of things we were going to change, scrap or introduce based in 3 categories of what could be done in weeks, months or years.Stevo_666 said:
The EU took several decades to decide its strategy - what started out in the fifties as a way of promoting trade and reducing the likelihood of further conflict in Europe after WW2 eventually morphed into being wannabe superstate. These things take time based on the EU experience.surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...
Until we knew the terms we were leaving on, it's a bit tricky to start on a strategy. Then there were a few other priorities to deal with, like a global pandemic.
If we were totally overwhelmed by the process of leaving then why not say so"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
my concern is that this movement is very good on optics so there has to be a concern that these things (for whatever reason) do not existStevo_666 said:
Without the benefit of time travel, not sure what you think we should do other than move forward from here?surrey_commuter said:
Once we left why was there no list of things we were going to change, scrap or introduce based in 3 categories of what could be done in weeks, months or years.Stevo_666 said:
The EU took several decades to decide its strategy - what started out in the fifties as a way of promoting trade and reducing the likelihood of further conflict in Europe after WW2 eventually morphed into being wannabe superstate. These things take time based on the EU experience.surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...
Until we knew the terms we were leaving on, it's a bit tricky to start on a strategy. Then there were a few other priorities to deal with, like a global pandemic.
If we were totally overwhelmed by the process of leaving then why not say so
they had decades to plan for them, then 3.5 years to finalise them and then 2.5 years to implement them.
It is not a matter of time travel it is about doing the best thing for the country0 -
Queues off the boat checking passports - what a faff.
Need to get rid of the lot who literally lied to have it happen first.tailwindhome said:The UK doesn't seem ready to have that conversation about what to do next, and what relationship to have with Europe
Or, at least, our politicians don't think we are.
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You seem to be saying that those promoting leaving the EU had no idea what they actually wanted from so doing. Surely not!Stevo_666 said:
Until we knew the terms we were leaving on, it's a bit tricky to start on a strategy. Then there were a few other priorities to deal with, like a global pandemic.surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...
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I've given up waiting for anyone pro-Brexit to articulate a coherent strategy for making the UK better out of the EU than it would have been by staying in the EU. If it was going to happen, it would have happened by now.surrey_commuter said:
It is very easy for us to mock as we place no value on these things which is why my question is genuinewallace_and_gromit said:
How can you forget the blue passports and the "UK" stickers for cars?surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...
Plus of course the thrill of delight - even if only inadvertently and several hours in arrears - at successfully smuggling cooked meat into France when going on hols.0 -
Somebody once said it was a bit like being in a relationship that you weren't happy with and uncomfortable about where it was going. You don't necessarily know where you will go next but it's still a good idea to exit the relationship. Or at least make it less controlling...wallace_and_gromit said:
You seem to be saying that those promoting leaving the EU had no idea what they actually wanted from so doing. Surely not!Stevo_666 said:
Until we knew the terms we were leaving on, it's a bit tricky to start on a strategy. Then there were a few other priorities to deal with, like a global pandemic.surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
If thats the case, it displays a lack of confidence in Britain's strength on the part of those who wanted to leave.0
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It’s just they don’t want foreigners making decisions that even remotely affect them at all. That’s what it boils down to.0
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Or equally one might class it as leaving an amicable family life because you think your spouse is stopping you from realising your full potential, then finding yourself living in a flea-pit, with limited access to your kids, no "Friday nights" with said spouse when the kids are out, whilst still having no idea how to realise your full potential or even any idea what your full potential might be.Stevo_666 said:
Somebody once said it was a bit like being in a relationship that you weren't happy with and uncomfortable about where it was going. You don't necessarily know where you will go next but it's still a good idea to exit the relationship. Or at least make it less controlling...wallace_and_gromit said:
You seem to be saying that those promoting leaving the EU had no idea what they actually wanted from so doing. Surely not!Stevo_666 said:
Until we knew the terms we were leaving on, it's a bit tricky to start on a strategy. Then there were a few other priorities to deal with, like a global pandemic.surrey_commuter said:
Genuine question - as they had several decades to spot the opportunities and six years to plan and implement them are you not at all concerned that there are no meaningful benefits and none that will touch the sides of the negatives?Stevo_666 said:
Brexit is done as we've left the EU, I suppose the key thing to do now about is maximising the freedom, flexibility and opportunities that come with it*, which we have not done enough of yet. And sorting out the difference with the EU where possible.veronese68 said:
Stevo's dream candidate? Agrees Brexit is done (but will redo it) and more money in his pocket.tailwindhome said:Brexit's done.
Penny promises to re-do it
No. I don't know either
Maybe some people don't want more money in their pockets, but hey, some people are a bit strange.
* Unless I write a footnote, someone will sfore their smartarse points and mention for the umpteenth that there were also some downsides...0 -
That's probably the majority world view.rick_chasey said:It’s just they don’t want foreigners making decisions that even remotely affect them at all. That’s what it boils down to.
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Doesn’t make it right.TheBigBean said:
That's probably the majority world view.rick_chasey said:It’s just they don’t want foreigners making decisions that even remotely affect them at all. That’s what it boils down to.
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