BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    ddraver said:

    poor old Bean...

    Why?
    Celebrating the right to do things that you can't do is a bit like that sketch from Life of Brian.
    You've lost me. Is this about a tweet from a Telegraph journalist?
    No, foie gras etc.
    If it the bill hasn't passed in 2022, you can do your victory dance to celebrate animal cruelty (or whatever it is that everyone is so pleased with).
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,605
    TheBigBean said:

    They also have bigger problems than Christmas parties from a while ago. Some things are easy to score points with. Time will tell.

    I realise this might show that I'm lowly scum, but I can only recall seeing fois gras for sale once in the UK, in a bistro run by a sadly alcoholic French chef.

    Whereas I know lots of people that had a really crap 2020 with limited socialising.

  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,351
    Just thought it worth noting that this thread has had one million views.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    briantrumpet said:

    Just thought it worth noting that this thread has had one million views.

    About 100k each then.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    edited January 2022
    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    ddraver said:

    poor old Bean...

    Why?
    Celebrating the right to do things that you can't do is a bit like that sketch from Life of Brian.
    You've lost me. Is this about a tweet from a Telegraph journalist?
    No, foie gras etc.
    If it the bill hasn't passed in 2022, you can do your victory dance to celebrate animal cruelty (or whatever it is that everyone is so pleased with).
    Not pleased by any of this, but if there are things that anyone sees as a positive, it would be good for them to happen.

    Personally I like foie gras on the very rare occasions I eat it. It's ridiculously tasty. Wouldn't massively miss it if it wasn't there, and don't care more about geese than chickens.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,351
    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.

    Thanks.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I think it is great as it mirrors my own thoughts and it is good that she acknowledges people will ask why it took her so long but she should have made an attempt to answer that question. I suspect that as part of the establishment she was thoroughly indoctrinated in English Exceptionalism and until that is seen as a problem it can not be cured.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    TheBigBean said:

    rick_chasey said:

    TheBigBean said:

    If he drops the ban he will face much harder questions, so I imagine he will continue.

    From who?
    The public and reporters.
    So they'll let the NIC hike slide, but draw the line at backtracking on banning something that hardly anyone eats.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I think it is great as it mirrors my own thoughts and it is good that she acknowledges people will ask why it took her so long but she should have made an attempt to answer that question. I suspect that as part of the establishment she was thoroughly indoctrinated in English Exceptionalism and until that is seen as a problem it can not be cured.
    I thought it would be popular on here, so I thought I should give it a good home. Personally, I struggle with all the Brexit connections especially if someone is going big on democracy - self-determination is something the UK advocates and something the UK has, in recent years, lead by example on.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I think it is great as it mirrors my own thoughts and it is good that she acknowledges people will ask why it took her so long but she should have made an attempt to answer that question. I suspect that as part of the establishment she was thoroughly indoctrinated in English Exceptionalism and until that is seen as a problem it can not be cured.
    I thought it would be popular on here, so I thought I should give it a good home. Personally, I struggle with all the Brexit connections especially if someone is going big on democracy - self-determination is something the UK advocates and something the UK has, in recent years, lead by example on.
    Want to try getting that past wee nippy up north?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I think it is great as it mirrors my own thoughts and it is good that she acknowledges people will ask why it took her so long but she should have made an attempt to answer that question. I suspect that as part of the establishment she was thoroughly indoctrinated in English Exceptionalism and until that is seen as a problem it can not be cured.
    I thought it would be popular on here, so I thought I should give it a good home. Personally, I struggle with all the Brexit connections especially if someone is going big on democracy - self-determination is something the UK advocates and something the UK has, in recent years, lead by example on.
    Want to try getting that past wee nippy up north?
    I don't think even she thinks it is an annual event.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    TheBigBean said:

    pblakeney said:

    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I think it is great as it mirrors my own thoughts and it is good that she acknowledges people will ask why it took her so long but she should have made an attempt to answer that question. I suspect that as part of the establishment she was thoroughly indoctrinated in English Exceptionalism and until that is seen as a problem it can not be cured.
    I thought it would be popular on here, so I thought I should give it a good home. Personally, I struggle with all the Brexit connections especially if someone is going big on democracy - self-determination is something the UK advocates and something the UK has, in recent years, lead by example on.
    Want to try getting that past wee nippy up north?
    I don't think even she thinks it is an annual event.
    No. And it shouldn't be.
    Self determination is either something you are for, or against.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I think it is great as it mirrors my own thoughts and it is good that she acknowledges people will ask why it took her so long but she should have made an attempt to answer that question. I suspect that as part of the establishment she was thoroughly indoctrinated in English Exceptionalism and until that is seen as a problem it can not be cured.
    I thought it would be popular on here, so I thought I should give it a good home. Personally, I struggle with all the Brexit connections especially if someone is going big on democracy - self-determination is something the UK advocates and something the UK has, in recent years, lead by example on.
    Maybe inserting Brexit is an attempt to justify not noticing something that has always been right in front of her
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I don't get it. What's brexit doing in there at all?

    Amazingly simplistic. There aren't good guys who are always good and bad guys who you always avoid. The idea that it has ever been different is quite something from a diplomat.

    Some of the things mentioned in there are obviously wrong and are being/were done for corrupt mercenary reasons. But there's surely always a balance in realpolitik and sometimes you just need to hold your nose as a country for the relative greater good.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I think it is great as it mirrors my own thoughts and it is good that she acknowledges people will ask why it took her so long but she should have made an attempt to answer that question. I suspect that as part of the establishment she was thoroughly indoctrinated in English Exceptionalism and until that is seen as a problem it can not be cured.
    I thought it would be popular on here, so I thought I should give it a good home. Personally, I struggle with all the Brexit connections especially if someone is going big on democracy - self-determination is something the UK advocates and something the UK has, in recent years, lead by example on.
    Maybe inserting Brexit is an attempt to justify not noticing something that has always been right in front of her
    So it is a failed exercise in self-discovery?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I think it is great as it mirrors my own thoughts and it is good that she acknowledges people will ask why it took her so long but she should have made an attempt to answer that question. I suspect that as part of the establishment she was thoroughly indoctrinated in English Exceptionalism and until that is seen as a problem it can not be cured.
    I thought it would be popular on here, so I thought I should give it a good home. Personally, I struggle with all the Brexit connections especially if someone is going big on democracy - self-determination is something the UK advocates and something the UK has, in recent years, lead by example on.
    Maybe inserting Brexit is an attempt to justify not noticing something that has always been right in front of her
    So it is a failed exercise in self-discovery?
    Nope, she is using Brexit as a smokescreen for her wilful blindness
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I think it is great as it mirrors my own thoughts and it is good that she acknowledges people will ask why it took her so long but she should have made an attempt to answer that question. I suspect that as part of the establishment she was thoroughly indoctrinated in English Exceptionalism and until that is seen as a problem it can not be cured.
    I thought it would be popular on here, so I thought I should give it a good home. Personally, I struggle with all the Brexit connections especially if someone is going big on democracy - self-determination is something the UK advocates and something the UK has, in recent years, lead by example on.
    Maybe inserting Brexit is an attempt to justify not noticing something that has always been right in front of her
    So it is a failed exercise in self-discovery?
    Nope, she is using Brexit as a smokescreen for her wilful blindness
    I think I agree. In the Brexit thread!
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    TheBigBean said:

    Here's an article that you'll all enjoy (no Brexit upsides).

    https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/11/the-country-i-represented-as-a-diplomat-for-30-years-no-longer-exists/

    Our current Government is the most incompetent and self-serving administration I can recall. Some believe Boris Johnson is the problem; some believe Brexit is the problem. I now believe that both are symptoms of a deeper malaise within our system and that neither removing Johnson nor reversing Brexit will put us back on track.


    It's interesting that she identifies the failing of the Iraq war and the complicity in torture, but it was Brexit that pushed her over the edge and made her question democracy in the UK.
    I think it is great as it mirrors my own thoughts and it is good that she acknowledges people will ask why it took her so long but she should have made an attempt to answer that question. I suspect that as part of the establishment she was thoroughly indoctrinated in English Exceptionalism and until that is seen as a problem it can not be cured.
    I thought it would be popular on here, so I thought I should give it a good home. Personally, I struggle with all the Brexit connections especially if someone is going big on democracy - self-determination is something the UK advocates and something the UK has, in recent years, lead by example on.
    Maybe inserting Brexit is an attempt to justify not noticing something that has always been right in front of her
    So it is a failed exercise in self-discovery?
    Nope, she is using Brexit as a smokescreen for her wilful blindness
    I think I agree. In the Brexit thread!
    :o
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    edited January 2022
    Always difficult to admit you've been had...



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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    LOL
    _
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,411
    https://telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/09/02/financial-services-exports-europe-rise-despite-brexit/
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    edited January 2022
    Stevo_666 said:

    https://telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/09/02/financial-services-exports-europe-rise-despite-brexit/

    There must have been another quarter of results since that article - still holding up well?

    Edit: not according to the updated version of the source for that article.

    It's a fascinating insight into the writing of these ONS reports to see the same thing being referenced to explain completely opposite movements.

    Q1: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/articles/theimpactsofeuexitandcoronaviruscovid19onuktradeinservices/july2021

    Financial services have seen growth in exports to EU countries of £0.08 billion (1.4%) and a reduction in imports from EU countries by £0.57 billion (35.2%) in Quarter 1 2021 compared with Quarter 1 2019.

    As part of the TCA, administrative barriers and limitations faced by EU and UK investors, service suppliers and business travellers are kept to a minimum. This may encourage trade in services and may have contributed to the growth in financial services exports to the EU.


    Q2:
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/articles/theimpactsofeuexitandcoronaviruscovid19onuktradeinservices/november2021

    In Quarter 2 (April to June) 2021, trade in financial services declined for both exports and imports by £1.5 billion (negative 9.7%) and £0.3 billion (negative 6.3%) respectively compared with Quarter 2 2019. Non-EU exports increased £0.5 billion (5.1%) and imports £0.01 billion (0.4%) since Quarter 2 2019, whereas EU exports and imports declined £2.0 billion (negative 30.6%) and £0.3 billion (negative 21.3%) respectively.

    This fall in financial services trade with the EU is partly because of EU exit-related rule changes, with the UK-EU Trade and Co-operation Agreement (TCA) containing limited provision for access in financial services.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,411
    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    https://telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/09/02/financial-services-exports-europe-rise-despite-brexit/

    There must have been another quarter of results since that article - still holding up well?

    Edit: not according to the updated version of the source for that article.

    It's a fascinating insight into the writing of these ONS reports to see the same thing being referenced to explain completely opposite movements.

    Q1: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/articles/theimpactsofeuexitandcoronaviruscovid19onuktradeinservices/july2021

    Financial services have seen growth in exports to EU countries of £0.08 billion (1.4%) and a reduction in imports from EU countries by £0.57 billion (35.2%) in Quarter 1 2021 compared with Quarter 1 2019.

    As part of the TCA, administrative barriers and limitations faced by EU and UK investors, service suppliers and business travellers are kept to a minimum. This may encourage trade in services and may have contributed to the growth in financial services exports to the EU.


    Q2:
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/articles/theimpactsofeuexitandcoronaviruscovid19onuktradeinservices/november2021

    In Quarter 2 (April to June) 2021, trade in financial services declined for both exports and imports by £1.5 billion (negative 9.7%) and £0.3 billion (negative 6.3%) respectively compared with Quarter 2 2019. Non-EU exports increased £0.5 billion (5.1%) and imports £0.01 billion (0.4%) since Quarter 2 2019, whereas EU exports and imports declined £2.0 billion (negative 30.6%) and £0.3 billion (negative 21.3%) respectively.

    This fall in financial services trade with the EU is partly because of EU exit-related rule changes, with the UK-EU Trade and Co-operation Agreement (TCA) containing limited provision for access in financial services.
    I'm waiting for the 2021 stats tbh. It is worth remembering that the City's main opportunities lie outside the EU, given that the EU only represents around 13% of the global economy (and shrinking). So will be interesting to see the overall, picture, while remembering that covid may also have a negative effect impact all round.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    I imagine there was a boom due to Brexit related restructuring and the advice required. Most of that would have been done in the UK.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    TheBigBean said:

    I imagine there was a boom due to Brexit related restructuring and the advice required. Most of that would have been done in the UK.

    But think of the ramifications of the UK/EU trade surging as a result of increasing barriers to trade.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    edited January 2022
    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    https://telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/09/02/financial-services-exports-europe-rise-despite-brexit/

    There must have been another quarter of results since that article - still holding up well?

    Edit: not according to the updated version of the source for that article.

    It's a fascinating insight into the writing of these ONS reports to see the same thing being referenced to explain completely opposite movements.

    Q1: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/articles/theimpactsofeuexitandcoronaviruscovid19onuktradeinservices/july2021

    Financial services have seen growth in exports to EU countries of £0.08 billion (1.4%) and a reduction in imports from EU countries by £0.57 billion (35.2%) in Quarter 1 2021 compared with Quarter 1 2019.

    As part of the TCA, administrative barriers and limitations faced by EU and UK investors, service suppliers and business travellers are kept to a minimum. This may encourage trade in services and may have contributed to the growth in financial services exports to the EU.


    Q2:
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/articles/theimpactsofeuexitandcoronaviruscovid19onuktradeinservices/november2021

    In Quarter 2 (April to June) 2021, trade in financial services declined for both exports and imports by £1.5 billion (negative 9.7%) and £0.3 billion (negative 6.3%) respectively compared with Quarter 2 2019. Non-EU exports increased £0.5 billion (5.1%) and imports £0.01 billion (0.4%) since Quarter 2 2019, whereas EU exports and imports declined £2.0 billion (negative 30.6%) and £0.3 billion (negative 21.3%) respectively.

    This fall in financial services trade with the EU is partly because of EU exit-related rule changes, with the UK-EU Trade and Co-operation Agreement (TCA) containing limited provision for access in financial services.
    I'm waiting for the 2021 stats tbh. It is worth remembering that the City's main opportunities lie outside the EU, given that the EU only represents around 13% of the global economy (and shrinking). So will be interesting to see the overall, picture, while remembering that covid may also have a negative effect impact all round.
    Depends what you sell, but 1/7 is hardly trivial. But let's pretend the green bit doesn't matter.


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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Also the idea that your Far Eastern business is going to go to London and not say, HK or Singers, or your American business is going to go to London and not somewhere in New York or Chicago or LA.

    _
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    rick_chasey said:

    Also the idea that your Far Eastern business is going to go to London and not say, HK or Singers, or your American business is going to go to London and not somewhere in New York or Chicago or LA.

    Disappointed you don't refer to Hong Kong as Honkers.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Pross said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Also the idea that your Far Eastern business is going to go to London and not say, HK or Singers, or your American business is going to go to London and not somewhere in New York or Chicago or LA.

    Disappointed you don't refer to Hong Kong as Honkers.
    which would ease you into Yonkers

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