BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

Pross

pangolin said:

Are the shortages area specific? Bristol seems to have been largely unaffected so far, at least three shops I've been to (Tesco, Coop, Aldi, Waitrose)

I suspect the bigger players are still getting their share and smaller chains are suffering first. I noticed a fair few empty spaces on the shelves at my local Spar for the first time yesterday. I can see Co-op being affected before Tesco / ASDA etc. (although I also went into a Tesco Express yesterday that had some bare patches too).

webboo

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

elbowloh said:

Greggs now saying all their chicken pies, pastries and bakes are being affected.
Co-op saying its the worst supply shortage he's ever seen and Iceland is saying that the "crisis" threatens Christmas.

Where the censored am i going to get my prawn ring?

Anyway, we're making a success of Brexit.

Co-op has had bare shelves ever since Jan.

Total pain in the ars*.

I guess it's worth it for the extra cost of shipping in stuff from the continent.

Try shopping at Tesco or Waitrose. I've not noticed any shortages in those shops near me. Or are these shops with bare shelves only located near you for some strange reason?

So it’s being reported on as I write this on newsnight so it’s plainly not just me.

🙄🙄🙄

Well in that case the ones near me are miraculously Immune. I can't remember that last time there was anything apart from the occasional one off thing that we've been unable to buy.

could you check the cat food (Whiskas 7 or 11+ poultry in jelly pouches) as around here for the last 6 months there have been shortages and restricted to two boxes per customer. I have gone as far as Walton and Colliers Wood so popping over to Bromley could be tied in with other jobs.

Cat food is in short supply in East Yorkshire as well. Called in at Booths super
Market in Ripon last week and they didn’t have much either.

elbowloh

pangolin said:

Are the shortages area specific? Bristol seems to have been largely unaffected so far, at least three shops I've been to (Tesco, Coop, Aldi, Waitrose)

Supermarkets will just fill the shelves with the stuff they do have to hide the shortages in the lines that are short.

The pictures of empty shelves are often just before they're restocked with the other items from the back.

Pross

webboo said:

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

elbowloh said:

Greggs now saying all their chicken pies, pastries and bakes are being affected.
Co-op saying its the worst supply shortage he's ever seen and Iceland is saying that the "crisis" threatens Christmas.

Where the censored am i going to get my prawn ring?

Anyway, we're making a success of Brexit.

Co-op has had bare shelves ever since Jan.

Total pain in the ars*.

I guess it's worth it for the extra cost of shipping in stuff from the continent.

Try shopping at Tesco or Waitrose. I've not noticed any shortages in those shops near me. Or are these shops with bare shelves only located near you for some strange reason?

So it’s being reported on as I write this on newsnight so it’s plainly not just me.

🙄🙄🙄

Well in that case the ones near me are miraculously Immune. I can't remember that last time there was anything apart from the occasional one off thing that we've been unable to buy.

could you check the cat food (Whiskas 7 or 11+ poultry in jelly pouches) as around here for the last 6 months there have been shortages and restricted to two boxes per customer. I have gone as far as Walton and Colliers Wood so popping over to Bromley could be tied in with other jobs.

Cat food is in short supply in East Yorkshire as well. Called in at Booths super
Market in Ripon last week and they didn’t have much either.

That's the lowering of food standards post-Brexit. All the stuff that went into the cat food is now being sold to humans

morstar

Pross said:

webboo said:

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

elbowloh said:

Greggs now saying all their chicken pies, pastries and bakes are being affected.
Co-op saying its the worst supply shortage he's ever seen and Iceland is saying that the "crisis" threatens Christmas.

Where the censored am i going to get my prawn ring?

Anyway, we're making a success of Brexit.

Co-op has had bare shelves ever since Jan.

Total pain in the ars*.

I guess it's worth it for the extra cost of shipping in stuff from the continent.

Try shopping at Tesco or Waitrose. I've not noticed any shortages in those shops near me. Or are these shops with bare shelves only located near you for some strange reason?

So it’s being reported on as I write this on newsnight so it’s plainly not just me.

🙄🙄🙄

Well in that case the ones near me are miraculously Immune. I can't remember that last time there was anything apart from the occasional one off thing that we've been unable to buy.

could you check the cat food (Whiskas 7 or 11+ poultry in jelly pouches) as around here for the last 6 months there have been shortages and restricted to two boxes per customer. I have gone as far as Walton and Colliers Wood so popping over to Bromley could be tied in with other jobs.

Cat food is in short supply in East Yorkshire as well. Called in at Booths super
Market in Ripon last week and they didn’t have much either.

That's the lowering of food standards post-Brexit. All the stuff that went into the cat food is now being sold to humans

I concur.

However, I’d rather my cat ate than a Brexiteer.

elbowloh

morstar said:

Pross said:

webboo said:

surrey_commuter said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

elbowloh said:

Greggs now saying all their chicken pies, pastries and bakes are being affected.
Co-op saying its the worst supply shortage he's ever seen and Iceland is saying that the "crisis" threatens Christmas.

Where the censored am i going to get my prawn ring?

Anyway, we're making a success of Brexit.

Co-op has had bare shelves ever since Jan.

Total pain in the ars*.

I guess it's worth it for the extra cost of shipping in stuff from the continent.

Try shopping at Tesco or Waitrose. I've not noticed any shortages in those shops near me. Or are these shops with bare shelves only located near you for some strange reason?

So it’s being reported on as I write this on newsnight so it’s plainly not just me.

🙄🙄🙄

Well in that case the ones near me are miraculously Immune. I can't remember that last time there was anything apart from the occasional one off thing that we've been unable to buy.

could you check the cat food (Whiskas 7 or 11+ poultry in jelly pouches) as around here for the last 6 months there have been shortages and restricted to two boxes per customer. I have gone as far as Walton and Colliers Wood so popping over to Bromley could be tied in with other jobs.

Cat food is in short supply in East Yorkshire as well. Called in at Booths super
Market in Ripon last week and they didn’t have much either.

That's the lowering of food standards post-Brexit. All the stuff that went into the cat food is now being sold to humans

I concur.

However, I’d rather my cat ate a Brexiteer.

Yeah me too

Stevo_666

pangolin said:

Are the shortages area specific? Bristol seems to have been largely unaffected so far, at least three shops I've been to (Tesco, Coop, Aldi, Waitrose)

It would appear to be based on what is reported here. I think Rick is just hoping that the issue is national.

kingstongraham

This is the current accepted way of discussing it - from https://unherd.com/thepost/the-british-brit-bashers-are-at-it-again/?mc_cid=3b1d23cdc2&mc_eid=48a7c8415c

"The disruption of supply chains is a favourite weapon of British Brit-bashers. Pictures of empty shelves in supermarkets are avidly shared on Twitter (and The Guardian) while hashtags like #BrexitFoodShortages are sent trending.

"It would be foolish to ignore the problems caused by Brexit, yet it’s equally myopic to disregard the global chaos caused by Covid."

Brexit has caused problems for Britain over and above what the rest of the world has, but if you say that, it's anti-British. If you caused it, not so much.

pangolin

elbowloh said:

pangolin said:

Are the shortages area specific? Bristol seems to have been largely unaffected so far, at least three shops I've been to (Tesco, Coop, Aldi, Waitrose)

Supermarkets will just fill the shelves with the stuff they do have to hide the shortages in the lines that are short.

The pictures of empty shelves are often just before they're restocked with the other items from the back.

Sure, but I don't think there has been an increase in specific items I have been unable to get (there are usually 1 or 2 things, but that's normal)

TheBigBean

Can't you just buy cat food online?

rick_chasey

I find the denial of a problem remarkable, given it's the second biggest news story after afganistan on every major TV news outlet.

https://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19539207.kfc-nandos-greggs-costa-uk-restaurants-warning-customers-amid-food-shortage/

Here you a go, a nice list.

McDonald's warned customers that they may not be able to order milkshakes or bottled drinks at their local branch amid supply chain problems.

The shortage is affecting all 1,250 of McDonald’s stores across Scotland, England and Wales.

KFC

Posting on Twitter, KFC said: "Just a heads up that across our country, there's been some disruption over the last few weeks - so things may be a little different when you next visit us.

"You might find some items aren't available or our packaging might look a little different to normal.

Greggs

Greggs has also fallen victim to a series of supply chain problems that is affecting businesses up and down the UK

"They are currently producing a reduced range of products for UK customers and are seriously concerned that the supply of staple chicken products will be impacted," Griffiths said.

Costa

Costa Coffee is another big name to be suffering from distribution issues.

In reply to a customers Tweet querying the lack of decaffeinated coffee beans in various stores, Costa replied: “We are facing some supply chain issues just now. We're working hard to resolve this ASAP”.

Co-Op

The boss of one of the UK’s biggest retailers has warned that current food shortages are at a “worse level” than he has ever seen.

Steve Murrells, chief executive of the Co-operative Group, said the retailer has significantly reduced its range of some products to help serve customers.

He told the Times newspaper: “The shortages are at a worse level than at any time I have seen.”

The Co-Op I can vouch for. Materially reduced stock.

Jezyboy

At various times this year the local coop seems to have had virtually no frozen items or no fresh veg. Most other stores have been quite a bit better.

Cat food production might still be additionally suffering from a massive recall earlier in the year.

The local gourmet pizza pub had no pizza boxes when we wanted to take some leftovers last weekend.

Stevo_666

rick_chasey said:

I find the denial of a problem remarkable, given it's the second biggest news story after afganistan on every major TV news outlet.

https://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19539207.kfc-nandos-greggs-costa-uk-restaurants-warning-customers-amid-food-shortage/

Here you a go, a nice list.

McDonald's warned customers that they may not be able to order milkshakes or bottled drinks at their local branch amid supply chain problems.

The shortage is affecting all 1,250 of McDonald’s stores across Scotland, England and Wales.

KFC

Posting on Twitter, KFC said: "Just a heads up that across our country, there's been some disruption over the last few weeks - so things may be a little different when you next visit us.

"You might find some items aren't available or our packaging might look a little different to normal.

Greggs

Greggs has also fallen victim to a series of supply chain problems that is affecting businesses up and down the UK

"They are currently producing a reduced range of products for UK customers and are seriously concerned that the supply of staple chicken products will be impacted," Griffiths said.

Costa

Costa Coffee is another big name to be suffering from distribution issues.

In reply to a customers Tweet querying the lack of decaffeinated coffee beans in various stores, Costa replied: “We are facing some supply chain issues just now. We're working hard to resolve this ASAP”.

Co-Op

The boss of one of the UK’s biggest retailers has warned that current food shortages are at a “worse level” than he has ever seen.

Steve Murrells, chief executive of the Co-operative Group, said the retailer has significantly reduced its range of some products to help serve customers.

He told the Times newspaper: “The shortages are at a worse level than at any time I have seen.”

The Co-Op I can vouch for. Materially reduced stock.

Lucky I don't shop at any of those. Are they all blaming it solely on Brexit like you are? Or do they recognise that there are other factors in play which are harder to blame the Tories for?

rick_chasey

Yes they are blaming brexit. Go watch last night's newsnight.

It is the same reason why the rest of the world is not struggling with supply chains.

kingstongraham

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

I find the denial of a problem remarkable, given it's the second biggest news story after afganistan on every major TV news outlet.

https://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19539207.kfc-nandos-greggs-costa-uk-restaurants-warning-customers-amid-food-shortage/

Here you a go, a nice list.

McDonald's warned customers that they may not be able to order milkshakes or bottled drinks at their local branch amid supply chain problems.

The shortage is affecting all 1,250 of McDonald’s stores across Scotland, England and Wales.

KFC

Posting on Twitter, KFC said: "Just a heads up that across our country, there's been some disruption over the last few weeks - so things may be a little different when you next visit us.

"You might find some items aren't available or our packaging might look a little different to normal.

Greggs

Greggs has also fallen victim to a series of supply chain problems that is affecting businesses up and down the UK

"They are currently producing a reduced range of products for UK customers and are seriously concerned that the supply of staple chicken products will be impacted," Griffiths said.

Costa

Costa Coffee is another big name to be suffering from distribution issues.

In reply to a customers Tweet querying the lack of decaffeinated coffee beans in various stores, Costa replied: “We are facing some supply chain issues just now. We're working hard to resolve this ASAP”.

Co-Op

The boss of one of the UK’s biggest retailers has warned that current food shortages are at a “worse level” than he has ever seen.

Steve Murrells, chief executive of the Co-operative Group, said the retailer has significantly reduced its range of some products to help serve customers.

He told the Times newspaper: “The shortages are at a worse level than at any time I have seen.”

The Co-Op I can vouch for. Materially reduced stock.

Lucky I don't shop at any of those. Are they all blaming it solely on Brexit like you are? Or do they recognise that there are other factors in play which are harder to blame the Tories for?

https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/20828401/#Comment_20828401

Nice work.

TheBigBean

rick_chasey said:

I find the denial of a problem remarkable, given it's the second biggest news story after afganistan on every major TV news outlet.

https://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19539207.kfc-nandos-greggs-costa-uk-restaurants-warning-customers-amid-food-shortage/

Here you a go, a nice list.

McDonald's warned customers that they may not be able to order milkshakes or bottled drinks at their local branch amid supply chain problems.

The shortage is affecting all 1,250 of McDonald’s stores across Scotland, England and Wales.

KFC

Posting on Twitter, KFC said: "Just a heads up that across our country, there's been some disruption over the last few weeks - so things may be a little different when you next visit us.

"You might find some items aren't available or our packaging might look a little different to normal.

Greggs

Greggs has also fallen victim to a series of supply chain problems that is affecting businesses up and down the UK

"They are currently producing a reduced range of products for UK customers and are seriously concerned that the supply of staple chicken products will be impacted," Griffiths said.

Costa

Costa Coffee is another big name to be suffering from distribution issues.

In reply to a customers Tweet querying the lack of decaffeinated coffee beans in various stores, Costa replied: “We are facing some supply chain issues just now. We're working hard to resolve this ASAP”.

Co-Op

The boss of one of the UK’s biggest retailers has warned that current food shortages are at a “worse level” than he has ever seen.

Steve Murrells, chief executive of the Co-operative Group, said the retailer has significantly reduced its range of some products to help serve customers.

He told the Times newspaper: “The shortages are at a worse level than at any time I have seen.”

The Co-Op I can vouch for. Materially reduced stock.

Not exactly a life and death situation though is it?

kingstongraham

It's as expected, things are a bit worse than could be.

surrey_commuter

TheBigBean said:

Can't you just buy cat food online?

they have the same shortages

TheBigBean

kingstongraham said:

It's as expected, things are a bit worse than could be.

It feels a bit like a strike to me. Sometimes there are strikes that are inconvenient, but you have sympathy with the cause, so can tolerate it. In this case I'm sympathetic to the way truck drivers were treated and i'm currently suffering no inconvenience.

elbowloh

TheBigBean said:

kingstongraham said:

It's as expected, things are a bit worse than could be.

It feels a bit like a strike to me. Sometimes there are strikes that are inconvenient, but you have sympathy with the cause, so can tolerate it. In this case I'm sympathetic to the way truck drivers were treated and i'm currently suffering no inconvenience.

Yeah, but strikes can lead to the forced destruction of whole communities...

rick_chasey

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I find the denial of a problem remarkable, given it's the second biggest news story after afganistan on every major TV news outlet.

https://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/19539207.kfc-nandos-greggs-costa-uk-restaurants-warning-customers-amid-food-shortage/

Here you a go, a nice list.

McDonald's warned customers that they may not be able to order milkshakes or bottled drinks at their local branch amid supply chain problems.

The shortage is affecting all 1,250 of McDonald’s stores across Scotland, England and Wales.

KFC

Posting on Twitter, KFC said: "Just a heads up that across our country, there's been some disruption over the last few weeks - so things may be a little different when you next visit us.

"You might find some items aren't available or our packaging might look a little different to normal.

Greggs

Greggs has also fallen victim to a series of supply chain problems that is affecting businesses up and down the UK

"They are currently producing a reduced range of products for UK customers and are seriously concerned that the supply of staple chicken products will be impacted," Griffiths said.

Costa

Costa Coffee is another big name to be suffering from distribution issues.

In reply to a customers Tweet querying the lack of decaffeinated coffee beans in various stores, Costa replied: “We are facing some supply chain issues just now. We're working hard to resolve this ASAP”.

Co-Op

The boss of one of the UK’s biggest retailers has warned that current food shortages are at a “worse level” than he has ever seen.

Steve Murrells, chief executive of the Co-operative Group, said the retailer has significantly reduced its range of some products to help serve customers.

He told the Times newspaper: “The shortages are at a worse level than at any time I have seen.”

The Co-Op I can vouch for. Materially reduced stock.

Not exactly a life and death situation though is it?

I didn't realise that was the bar?

Stevo_666

rick_chasey said:

Yes they are blaming brexit. Go watch last night's newsnight.

It is the same reason why the rest of the world is not struggling with supply chains.

Go Google global food supply chain issues and you'll find that this is not a UK specific problem.

kingstongraham

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Yes they are blaming brexit. Go watch last night's newsnight.

It is the same reason why the rest of the world is not struggling with supply chains.

Go Google global food supply chain issues and you'll find that this is not a UK specific problem.

Shame we added our own problem on top, eh?

rick_chasey

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Yes they are blaming brexit. Go watch last night's newsnight.

It is the same reason why the rest of the world is not struggling with supply chains.

Go Google global food supply chain issues and you'll find that this is not a UK specific problem.

So what, industry leaders, newsnight, the head of the co-op, are all lying?

Pross

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Yes they are blaming brexit. Go watch last night's newsnight.

It is the same reason why the rest of the world is not struggling with supply chains.

Go Google global food supply chain issues and you'll find that this is not a UK specific problem.

So what, industry leaders, newsnight, the head of the co-op, are all anti-British traitors?

Hope you don't mind me fixing that?

pblakeney

But we’ve got world class shortages.
Makes you proud.

tailwindhome

kingstongraham said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Yes they are blaming brexit. Go watch last night's newsnight.

It is the same reason why the rest of the world is not struggling with supply chains.

Go Google global food supply chain issues and you'll find that this is not a UK specific problem.

Shame we added our own problem on top, eh?

An incredible unforced error.

In June 2020, 6 months into the pandemic we could have extended the Brexit transition period.

We chose not to.

Stevo_666

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Yes they are blaming brexit. Go watch last night's newsnight.

It is the same reason why the rest of the world is not struggling with supply chains.

Go Google global food supply chain issues and you'll find that this is not a UK specific problem.

So what, industry leaders, newsnight, the head of the co-op, are all lying?

Nope, read my post again. I said it was not an issue that is restricted to the UK. Have these industry leaders specifically said that only the UK has food supply chain issues?

In any event I'm sure you can manage without the odd KFC until things sort themselves out.

Fyi just back from my local supermarket where these issues are still still absent.

Jezyboy

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Yes they are blaming brexit. Go watch last night's newsnight.

It is the same reason why the rest of the world is not struggling with supply chains.

Go Google global food supply chain issues and you'll find that this is not a UK specific problem.

So what, industry leaders, newsnight, the head of the co-op, are all lying?

Nope, read my post again. I said it was not an issue that is restricted to the UK. Have these industry leaders specifically said that only the UK has food supply chain issues?

In any event I'm sure you can manage without the odd KFC until things sort themselves out.

Fyi just back from my local supermarket where these issues are still still absent.

... For the items you wanted.

Presumably. Feel free to correct me if you did a full stock take!

Stevo_666

Jezyboy said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Yes they are blaming brexit. Go watch last night's newsnight.

It is the same reason why the rest of the world is not struggling with supply chains.

Go Google global food supply chain issues and you'll find that this is not a UK specific problem.

So what, industry leaders, newsnight, the head of the co-op, are all lying?

Nope, read my post again. I said it was not an issue that is restricted to the UK. Have these industry leaders specifically said that only the UK has food supply chain issues?

In any event I'm sure you can manage without the odd KFC until things sort themselves out.

Fyi just back from my local supermarket where these issues are still still absent.

... For the items you wanted.

Presumably. Feel free to correct me if you did a full stock take!

I felt compelled to do a quick look around for swathes of empty shelves and I couldn't see any. Must be my eyesight because Rick says it's true.