BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Round here nobody forces you to eat there. We find it more civilised that way.TheBigBean said:
Isn't the closure of Nandos a Brexit upside?kingstongraham said:https://news.sky.com/story/nandos-forced-to-close-50-restaurants-due-to-supply-chain-disruptions-12384047?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
"The company confirmed that its sites in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, which have a unique customs arrangement due to Brexit, had not been affected."0 -
and they have table servicekingstongraham said:
Round here nobody forces you to eat there. We find it more civilised that way.TheBigBean said:
Isn't the closure of Nandos a Brexit upside?kingstongraham said:https://news.sky.com/story/nandos-forced-to-close-50-restaurants-due-to-supply-chain-disruptions-12384047?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
"The company confirmed that its sites in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, which have a unique customs arrangement due to Brexit, had not been affected."0 -
Is Frangos still a going concern?kingstongraham said:
Round here nobody forces you to eat there. We find it more civilised that way.TheBigBean said:
Isn't the closure of Nandos a Brexit upside?kingstongraham said:https://news.sky.com/story/nandos-forced-to-close-50-restaurants-due-to-supply-chain-disruptions-12384047?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
"The company confirmed that its sites in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, which have a unique customs arrangement due to Brexit, had not been affected."- Genesis Croix de Fer
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One of my mates probably won't be leaving his high paid employment law career to drive an hgv. He has a license like many for his motorhome.TheBigBean said:
I think I read somewhere that the DVLA says there are quite a lot of people with HGV licences, so they see it more as commercial issue. Why are these people not driving HGVs? Because they can earn more in better conditions doing something else.surrey_commuter said:I am sure that previously specialist agencies would have recruited drivers from across the EU. What is worrying is that we have not added HGV drivers to a list of required professions which suggests that once again ideology is getting the better of economics
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Chicken producers blame Brexit for staff and supply shortages
Government urged to relax UK immigration rules after one in six jobs left unfilled since EU departure
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/19/chicken-producers-brexit-staff-supply-shortages-uk-immigration-jobs-eu0 -
The indignation with which people expect to hire poorly paid people to do bad jobs is quite remarkable.elbowloh said:Chicken producers blame Brexit for staff and supply shortages
Government urged to relax UK immigration rules after one in six jobs left unfilled since EU departure
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/19/chicken-producers-brexit-staff-supply-shortages-uk-immigration-jobs-eu1 -
Doesn't bother me much as I don't eat meat, but there's going to be a lot of unhappy voters if they can't get their Nandos / KFC / other Southern US States fried chicken.TheBigBean said:
The indignation with which people expect to hire poorly paid people to do bad jobs is quite remarkable.elbowloh said:Chicken producers blame Brexit for staff and supply shortages
Government urged to relax UK immigration rules after one in six jobs left unfilled since EU departure
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/19/chicken-producers-brexit-staff-supply-shortages-uk-immigration-jobs-eu
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It is (was) a free market. People don't have to take the jobs.TheBigBean said:
The indignation with which people expect to hire poorly paid people to do bad jobs is quite remarkable.elbowloh said:Chicken producers blame Brexit for staff and supply shortages
Government urged to relax UK immigration rules after one in six jobs left unfilled since EU departure
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/19/chicken-producers-brexit-staff-supply-shortages-uk-immigration-jobs-eu0 -
Yes, it is a free market and people don't want those jobs. My point was the indignation about this is remarkable.rick_chasey said:
It is (was) a free market. People don't have to take the jobs.TheBigBean said:
The indignation with which people expect to hire poorly paid people to do bad jobs is quite remarkable.elbowloh said:Chicken producers blame Brexit for staff and supply shortages
Government urged to relax UK immigration rules after one in six jobs left unfilled since EU departure
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/19/chicken-producers-brexit-staff-supply-shortages-uk-immigration-jobs-eu2 -
The indignation is coming from the people that have poultry businesses. I guess that indignation is because they're going to lose their businesses and livelihoods potentially. That would come up quite high on the list of things they give a shoite about I'd imagine. As I said up-thread, it doesn't really concern me, as i don't eat meat.TheBigBean said:
Yes, it is a free market and people don't want those jobs. My point was the indignation about this is remarkable.rick_chasey said:
It is (was) a free market. People don't have to take the jobs.TheBigBean said:
The indignation with which people expect to hire poorly paid people to do bad jobs is quite remarkable.elbowloh said:Chicken producers blame Brexit for staff and supply shortages
Government urged to relax UK immigration rules after one in six jobs left unfilled since EU departure
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/19/chicken-producers-brexit-staff-supply-shortages-uk-immigration-jobs-eu
The counter argument is that they could pay higher wages, but that means the fast food sellers also raising prices and pro-brexit voters did not vote for more expensive fried chicken.
Maybe that should have been what "Project fear" should have focused on " a vote for brexit is a vote for turning your bargain bucket into just a bucket".0 -
They did.elbowloh said:
Maybe that should have been what "Project fear" should have focused on " a vote for brexit is a vote for turning your bargain bucket into just a bucket".
It was dismissed as Project Fear/Brexit at any cost.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Another counterpoint - yes they did.elbowloh said:
The counter argument is that they could pay higher wages, but that means the fast food sellers also raising prices and pro-brexit voters did not vote for more expensive fried chicken.
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So, the chickens are coming home to roost?kingstongraham said:
Another counterpoint - yes they did.elbowloh said:
The counter argument is that they could pay higher wages, but that means the fast food sellers also raising prices and pro-brexit voters did not vote for more expensive fried chicken.
The prices will come down again when Boris lets the US flood us with the chlorinated stuff.0 -
Intrigued to receive a delivery from Wiggle to France - took much longer than before, and was dispatched from Wolverhampton, with several sheets of paperwork included. Given that their global aspirations, and that the website quotes in Euros, I must admit I'm a bit surprised that they haven't established an EU base. I probably shan't use them again for France, given the two-week wait for delivery.0
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Brian, it's traditional to blame Wiggle I believebriantrumpet said:Intrigued to receive a delivery from Wiggle to France - took much longer than before, and was dispatched from Wolverhampton, with several sheets of paperwork included. Given that their global aspirations, and that the website quotes in Euros, I must admit I'm a bit surprised that they haven't established an EU base. I probably shan't use them again for France, given the two-week wait for delivery.
I have ordered a few things from EU based suppliers who clearly don't have a UK establishment and it's all come through promptly. It's more likely to be French customs being being awkward/petty with British shipments.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Stevo_666 said:
Brian, it's traditional to blame Wiggle I believebriantrumpet said:Intrigued to receive a delivery from Wiggle to France - took much longer than before, and was dispatched from Wolverhampton, with several sheets of paperwork included. Given that their global aspirations, and that the website quotes in Euros, I must admit I'm a bit surprised that they haven't established an EU base. I probably shan't use them again for France, given the two-week wait for delivery.
I have ordered a few things from EU based suppliers who clearly don't have a UK establishment and it's all come through promptly. It's more likely to be French customs being being awkward/petty with British shipments.
Quite possibly, re French customs, but that comes as no surprise. The surprise was that Wiggle haven't bothered to circumvent the likelihood, given their apparent previous ambitions.0 -
Hmmm, it took me 3 weeks to receive two unremarkable base layers from Germany so I don't think we can blame this on french customs.
Do Wiggle/CRC still have the Northern Ireland warehouse? That would be their EU base...
Good idea this single market thing, eh?We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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IIRC the UK haven't started doing checks inward yetStevo_666 said:
Brian, it's traditional to blame Wiggle I believebriantrumpet said:Intrigued to receive a delivery from Wiggle to France - took much longer than before, and was dispatched from Wolverhampton, with several sheets of paperwork included. Given that their global aspirations, and that the website quotes in Euros, I must admit I'm a bit surprised that they haven't established an EU base. I probably shan't use them again for France, given the two-week wait for delivery.
I have ordered a few things from EU based suppliers who clearly don't have a UK establishment and it's all come through promptly. It's more likely to be French customs being being awkward/petty with British shipments.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
True, you would think that larger organisations would get set up accordingly.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Brian, it's traditional to blame Wiggle I believebriantrumpet said:Intrigued to receive a delivery from Wiggle to France - took much longer than before, and was dispatched from Wolverhampton, with several sheets of paperwork included. Given that their global aspirations, and that the website quotes in Euros, I must admit I'm a bit surprised that they haven't established an EU base. I probably shan't use them again for France, given the two-week wait for delivery.
I have ordered a few things from EU based suppliers who clearly don't have a UK establishment and it's all come through promptly. It's more likely to be French customs being being awkward/petty with British shipments.
Quite possibly, re French customs, but that comes as no surprise. The surprise was that Wiggle haven't bothered to circumvent the likelihood, given their apparent previous ambitions."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Also true...tailwindhome said:
IIRC the UK haven't started doing checks inward yetStevo_666 said:
Brian, it's traditional to blame Wiggle I believebriantrumpet said:Intrigued to receive a delivery from Wiggle to France - took much longer than before, and was dispatched from Wolverhampton, with several sheets of paperwork included. Given that their global aspirations, and that the website quotes in Euros, I must admit I'm a bit surprised that they haven't established an EU base. I probably shan't use them again for France, given the two-week wait for delivery.
I have ordered a few things from EU based suppliers who clearly don't have a UK establishment and it's all come through promptly. It's more likely to be French customs being being awkward/petty with British shipments.
Seems they can still sit in a container in Coventry for quite some time thoughWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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What sort of checks specifically? If we are talking lumps of metal and plastic, not sure what else is needed. They know enough to send me a bill for the import VAT already.tailwindhome said:
IIRC the UK haven't started doing checks inward yetStevo_666 said:
Brian, it's traditional to blame Wiggle I believebriantrumpet said:Intrigued to receive a delivery from Wiggle to France - took much longer than before, and was dispatched from Wolverhampton, with several sheets of paperwork included. Given that their global aspirations, and that the website quotes in Euros, I must admit I'm a bit surprised that they haven't established an EU base. I probably shan't use them again for France, given the two-week wait for delivery.
I have ordered a few things from EU based suppliers who clearly don't have a UK establishment and it's all come through promptly. It's more likely to be French customs being being awkward/petty with British shipments.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
In which case, Wiggle have a single market base but still took 2 weeks to deliver to Brian...ddraver said:Hmmm, it took me 3 weeks to receive two unremarkable base layers from Germany so I don't think we can blame this on french customs.
Do Wiggle/CRC still have the Northern Ireland warehouse? That would be their EU base...
Good idea this single market thing, eh?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I think they closed it and moved to Wolverhampton in the name of efficiency.Stevo_666 said:
In which case, Wiggle have a single market base but still took 2 weeks to deliver to Brian...ddraver said:Hmmm, it took me 3 weeks to receive two unremarkable base layers from Germany so I don't think we can blame this on french customs.
Do Wiggle/CRC still have the Northern Ireland warehouse? That would be their EU base...
Good idea this single market thing, eh?0 -
I see they closed it a few years back. Back to French customs as the most likely cause of delay then.kingstongraham said:
I think they closed it and moved to Wolverhampton in the name of efficiency.Stevo_666 said:
In which case, Wiggle have a single market base but still took 2 weeks to deliver to Brian...ddraver said:Hmmm, it took me 3 weeks to receive two unremarkable base layers from Germany so I don't think we can blame this on french customs.
Do Wiggle/CRC still have the Northern Ireland warehouse? That would be their EU base...
Good idea this single market thing, eh?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo_666 said:
I see they closed it a few years back. Back to French customs as the most likely cause of delay then.kingstongraham said:
I think they closed it and moved to Wolverhampton in the name of efficiency.Stevo_666 said:
In which case, Wiggle have a single market base but still took 2 weeks to deliver to Brian...ddraver said:Hmmm, it took me 3 weeks to receive two unremarkable base layers from Germany so I don't think we can blame this on french customs.
Do Wiggle/CRC still have the Northern Ireland warehouse? That would be their EU base...
Good idea this single market thing, eh?
French customs don't really have any incentive to speed things up (not that French bureaucracy has ever been known for speed). On the other hand, the UK would like to pretend that everything's fine.1 -
I may be conflating customs checks with the upcoming introduction of SPS checks etc on agrifoodStevo_666 said:
What sort of checks specifically? If we are talking lumps of metal and plastic, not sure what else is needed. They know enough to send me a bill for the import VAT already.tailwindhome said:
IIRC the UK haven't started doing checks inward yetStevo_666 said:
Brian, it's traditional to blame Wiggle I believebriantrumpet said:Intrigued to receive a delivery from Wiggle to France - took much longer than before, and was dispatched from Wolverhampton, with several sheets of paperwork included. Given that their global aspirations, and that the website quotes in Euros, I must admit I'm a bit surprised that they haven't established an EU base. I probably shan't use them again for France, given the two-week wait for delivery.
I have ordered a few things from EU based suppliers who clearly don't have a UK establishment and it's all come through promptly. It's more likely to be French customs being being awkward/petty with British shipments.
It was my understanding that while there were legal requirements on parcels coming from the EU, compliance checks weren't operating until later in the year. I may be entirely wrong.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Well I know for a fact that a consignment of cycling clothing took Fedex 13 days to clear Stansted. Clearly there are issues at this end.tailwindhome said:
I may be conflating customs checks with the upcoming introduction of SPS checks etc on agrifoodStevo_666 said:
What sort of checks specifically? If we are talking lumps of metal and plastic, not sure what else is needed. They know enough to send me a bill for the import VAT already.tailwindhome said:
IIRC the UK haven't started doing checks inward yetStevo_666 said:
Brian, it's traditional to blame Wiggle I believebriantrumpet said:Intrigued to receive a delivery from Wiggle to France - took much longer than before, and was dispatched from Wolverhampton, with several sheets of paperwork included. Given that their global aspirations, and that the website quotes in Euros, I must admit I'm a bit surprised that they haven't established an EU base. I probably shan't use them again for France, given the two-week wait for delivery.
I have ordered a few things from EU based suppliers who clearly don't have a UK establishment and it's all come through promptly. It's more likely to be French customs being being awkward/petty with British shipments.
It was my understanding that while there were legal requirements on parcels coming from the EU, compliance checks weren't operating until later in the year. I may be entirely wrong.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Seems the media have woken up to the shelves being a lot emptier than they were pre-Brexit.
Unless Gove can work his magic this could be the optics they have been so desperate to avoid0 -
Government policy sticking firmly with no extra visas for HGV drivers: you'll just have to pay more to bribe people into driving lorries. I think they have even used the line 'this is what the public voted for'.surrey_commuter said:Seems the media have woken up to the shelves being a lot emptier than they were pre-Brexit.
Unless Gove can work his magic this could be the optics they have been so desperate to avoid1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I know, lets copy the Americans and use prisoner labour
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/aug/23/uk-food-firms-beg-ministers-to-let-them-use-prisoners-to-ease-labour-shortages
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