BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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No. It's just ignoring people's legal rights which the UK doesn't, because the courts have the powers to hold governments to account.
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Any 18-30 year old who wants to work in Korea can apply as described here. It's a nice scheme.
https://overseas.mofa.go.kr/gb-en/brd/m_20265/view.do?seq=679361
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And what's the EU equivalent? I know that currently for up to 90 days South Koreans don't even need a visa to travel around Schengen, plus there are some bilateral arrangements that tweak that.
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You'd like to circle back to the beginning? It's not an EU matter beyond visiting rights in the Schengen area. Koreans have the same visiting rights as Brits with the same silly 90 day restriction. Not sure what to read into "don't even need".
A quick google says that working holiday visas are available for the following countries for Koreans although I suspect that is not going to be relevant to many posters on this forum:
- Australia
- Austria
- Belgium
- Canada
- Chile
- Czech Republic
- Denmark
- France
- Germany
- Hong Kong
- Hungary
- Ireland
- Israel
- Italy
- Japan
- Netherlands
- New Zealand
- Poland
- Portugal
- Spain
- Sweden
- Taiwan
- United Kingdom
- USA
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bizarre petty insult
couldn't give a damn about rwanda other than that it's a ridiculously expensive waste of taxpayers' money for a bit of theatre to appease the rabble, while at the same time driving legal immigration to ridiculous levels
enabled by a campaign of lies, bigotry and rabble rousing, the brexiter tories have already carried out the greatest stripping of citizens' rights in the history of the country, and are clearly intent on more of the same
the level of government sleaze and corruption is appalling, blatant misinformation and outright lies are now routine both in and out of parliament
the uk continues to support countries that have been in serious breach of international law for decades, and has expressed willingness to violate international law itself
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This is your repeated view. It does not mean that it is impossible for the UK to do something worthwhile, positive or to take the moral high ground. You said that such an idea was "hilarious". One explanation for that is that you are blinded by hate. That is not a petty insult.
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it's my view because it is based on fact
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The EU does like to work as a single bloc, to demonstrate the all-important "unity". However, doing so doesn't necessarily lead to the best outcomes. If you cast your mind back to the Astra Zeneca vaccine "spat" at the start of 2021, the EU's unified approach to signing vaccine supply contracts (which was a choice, given that health policy is not an EU competency) meant that the UK was able to "jump the queue" when some individual countries (Germany and Italy ring a bell) had been about to sign up with AZ before the UK.
Whilst this didn't really affect vaccine rollouts materially (if at all) it did lead to a rather unedifying public row, a proposal by the Commission to temporarily suspend the Northern Ireland Protocol and a further row between Ireland and the Commission before concluding that such a suspension wasn't going to happen. For a brief period, the spat enabled the Johnson regime to justifiably claim the moral high ground, which at the time took some doing!
NI Protocol: Proposal to use Article 16 over vaccines a disaster - EU aide - BBC News
Note I'm not commenting above on the EU's proposal for the 18-30 visas. I can see why the EU made the offer and I can see why both the Tories and Labour rejected it.
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Yes, who knew having to cajole 27 different countries with their own interests was tricky and had some drawbacks?
Ultimately it's about power and between the US, China and India, there's not much room for a small country like the UK.
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Rick - Re "Yes, who knew having to cajole 27 different countries with their own interests was tricky and had some drawbacks?" there's not been anything you've posted on this subject to suggest that you knew this, so thanks for acknowledging!
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Finally, some reality may be dawning.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Anyone else reading the Tim Shipman book?
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I hadn't clocked he'd written one, let alone four.
I'm probably more tempted by JoB's 'How They Broke Britain' and Ian Dunt's 'How Westminster Works (and Why It Doesn't) at the moment, though I think I'd find both deeply depressing.
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Belfast High Court have ruled that, due to the Windsor Framework, the Rwanda Bill doesn't apply in NI
Lols ahead
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
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Turns out illegal immigrants, wanting to evade the Rwanda Bill, don't need to go to Dublin at all, they can just fly/sail unchecked to Belfast.
It starts with mocking Ireland, and it ends with a border in the Irish Sea.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I still maintain that a border in the Irish Sea will suit a large enough percentage of tories for there to be little push back.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
There are probably more delicate ways of asking this, but who do you think would choose NI as a destination?
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You could probably say the same about the UK in general at present. Aren’t they supposed to be flooding into the Republic now anyway allegedly? Presumably this decision means that anyone not wanting to get sent to Rwanda will just head across the Irish Sea (or alternatively it will have no impact on the decision because Rwanda isn’t any deterrent to people desperate to get here).
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People who want to to stay in the UK and fear deportation to Rwanda
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
They’ll need to stop British based people smugglers sending them across the Irish Sea in small boats now.
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Could just take the bus. Glesca to Belfast.
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also it's pure brexiter nonsense, always lying and trying to blame others for their failures
we can use e-gates wherever there is a separate stream, exactly the same as entering the uk
it's the additional step to stamp non-eu passports that slows things down, the uk is treated the same as other non-eu countries
once etias is implemented, the need for the stamp goes away
no doubt brexiters will complain about etias, even though the uk is introducing a similar scheme, replacing the old evw with eta
increased cost, increased red tape and increased delays, all due to brexit
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Wrong thread
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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