BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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He has his momentsStevo_666 said:
I still find some of these new thread titles quite amusing.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
The willingness to compromise is good. The EU realises that it's not in their interests for us to leave with no deal and go down the 'Singapore on Thames' route. They've already ended up with us in a potentially harder Brexit situation than they wanted or anticipated and are presumably keen not to make the same mistake twice.kingstongraham said:Varadkar: "You may have to make concessions in areas like fishing in order to get concessions from us in areas like financial services."
This sounds positive.
The level playing field prereqisite sounds like we are more likely to leave without a deal though."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It has only been achieved for now as it is subject to approval by the NI assembly in four years. It was a compromise done on a bilateral basis. It would probably have been better to have started that way rather than all the grandstanding that went on before that. That doesn't justify the thread title, but I don't see him as beyond criticism.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
The Irish Government had one overriding objective in the Withdrawal Agreement phase of Brexit, namely that they would never have to implement the EU border on the island of Ireland and still protect their place in the single market.
That this has been achieved and the Brexiteer mindset still be as reflected in the thread title ("Leo having the last word because he just doesn't carry much weight") while an internal border goes up within the UK is really quite something.
Separately, the more I think about it the more I think the current NI protocol is quite clever. The more things that the joint committee tries to regulate and demand checks for the greater the likelihood of a no vote in the NI assembly. This should mean that the level of checks imposed are those that are required rather than those that are desired.
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I though both sides were now just going to go with equivalence for financial services, so there isn't much to concede. It'll be interesting if EU banks will have to capitalise in the UK like non-EU banks.kingstongraham said:Varadkar: "You may have to make concessions in areas like fishing in order to get concessions from us in areas like financial services."
This sounds positive.
The level playing field prereqisite sounds like we are more likely to leave without a deal though.
Another Brexit upside might be lower fish quotas. More in line with scientific advice.0 -
Why is this on a cycling forum. I cant wait till you little englanders leave the EU on fri, it brings us closer to an independent Scotland and a United Ireland.0
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Which little country are you from?phelim21 said:Why is this on a cycling forum. I cant wait till you little englanders leave the EU on fri, it brings us closer to an independent Scotland and a United Ireland.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Definitely not england. At least we are getting the best of both deals in the north if Ireland.0
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Seems like you have a similar mentality to these 'Little Englanders' then. Only on a smaller scale.phelim21 said:Definitely not england. At least we are getting the best of both deals in the north if Ireland.
What makes you think Brexit will bring about either of those two things?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Pretty sure NI businesses would beg to differ.phelim21 said:Definitely not england. At least we are getting the best of both deals in the north if Ireland.
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Good to see backbenchers doing their job on the Huawei 5G question. Shame Johnson bottled out of defending his own policies and sent a junior instead, but that's becoming a bit of a pattern.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Well they f***ing well should. It is, I would say, as big a deal if not more so than Brexit and it's getting a couple of belated urgent questions.rick_chasey said:No one cares anymore.
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In other news, should we be (more) worried when even the Daily Mail is posting slightly panicky stories about ministers already expressing concerns that Johnson really has just winged it and has no plan?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7930053/amp/DAN-HODGES-Ministers-asking-Boris-Johnson-clue-next.html?__twitter_impression=true
Still, always time for a livestream of fake questions on Facebook.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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You're not from Surrey are you? Definitely from Berkshire!surrey_commuter said:
whilst the OP is undeniably a thicko I think it is a big jump to conclude that his thinking reflects that of Brexiteers whose thinking spans between not knowing who Leo is and those who deep down think we still own the place so we call the shots.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
The Irish Government had one overriding objective in the Withdrawal Agreement phase of Brexit, namely that they would never have to implement the EU border on the island of Ireland and still protect their place in the single market.
That this has been achieved and the Brexiteer mindset still be as reflected in the thread title ("Leo having the last word because he just doesn't carry much weight") while an internal border goes up within the UK is really quite something.Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.1 -
rjsterry said:
In other news, should we be (more) worried when even the Daily Mail is posting slightly panicky stories about ministers already expressing concerns that Johnson really has just winged it and has no plan?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7930053/amp/DAN-HODGES-Ministers-asking-Boris-Johnson-clue-next.html?__twitter_impression=true
Gosh. From the Daily Mail.
The parallels with Trump are uncanny.0 -
Yeah.rjsterry said:
Well they f***ing well should. It is, I would say, as big a deal if not more so than Brexit and it's getting a couple of belated urgent questions.rick_chasey said:No one cares anymore.
I think the Westminster exorcicsms, subsequent degradation of political behaviour and the heat from both sides of the ref has left pretty much everyone numb to what’s going on.0 -
Cockney rhyming slang?mr_goo said:
You're not from Surrey are you? Definitely from Berkshire!surrey_commuter said:
whilst the OP is undeniably a thicko I think it is a big jump to conclude that his thinking reflects that of Brexiteers whose thinking spans between not knowing who Leo is and those who deep down think we still own the place so we call the shots.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
The Irish Government had one overriding objective in the Withdrawal Agreement phase of Brexit, namely that they would never have to implement the EU border on the island of Ireland and still protect their place in the single market.
That this has been achieved and the Brexiteer mindset still be as reflected in the thread title ("Leo having the last word because he just doesn't carry much weight") while an internal border goes up within the UK is really quite something.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Neither of those comments makes any senseStevo_666 said:
Cockney rhyming slang?mr_goo said:
You're not from Surrey are you? Definitely from Berkshire!surrey_commuter said:
whilst the OP is undeniably a thicko I think it is a big jump to conclude that his thinking reflects that of Brexiteers whose thinking spans between not knowing who Leo is and those who deep down think we still own the place so we call the shots.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
The Irish Government had one overriding objective in the Withdrawal Agreement phase of Brexit, namely that they would never have to implement the EU border on the island of Ireland and still protect their place in the single market.
That this has been achieved and the Brexiteer mindset still be as reflected in the thread title ("Leo having the last word because he just doesn't carry much weight") while an internal border goes up within the UK is really quite something.
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If you know the derivation of "berk", it does.surrey_commuter said:
Neither of those comments makes any senseStevo_666 said:
Cockney rhyming slang?mr_goo said:
You're not from Surrey are you? Definitely from Berkshire!surrey_commuter said:
whilst the OP is undeniably a thicko I think it is a big jump to conclude that his thinking reflects that of Brexiteers whose thinking spans between not knowing who Leo is and those who deep down think we still own the place so we call the shots.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
The Irish Government had one overriding objective in the Withdrawal Agreement phase of Brexit, namely that they would never have to implement the EU border on the island of Ireland and still protect their place in the single market.
That this has been achieved and the Brexiteer mindset still be as reflected in the thread title ("Leo having the last word because he just doesn't carry much weight") while an internal border goes up within the UK is really quite something.0 -
Why are you having a problem reading the description for this part of the forum:phelim21 said:Why is this on a cycling forum. I cant wait till you little englanders leave the EU on fri, it brings us closer to an independent Scotland and a United Ireland.
"The place for more serious off-topic questions, light-hearted banter and friendly chat"
There are plenty of other sub-sections if you want to discuss how to index your gear, argue about wearing a helmet, ask what bike to buy for less than £1k, discuss whether having a FTP of 10w/kg is enough to get you around the local Regional B race and give your views on Team Ineos so maybe stick to those?0 -
https://www.cer.eu/publications/archive/bulletin-article/2020/priorities-global-britain
Worth a read for people who are sensible.When the UK leaves the EU on January 31st 2020, it will enter the final phase of a process leading to the erection of trade barriers with its most important trading partner. Rather than charging headlong into a trade agreement with the US, Britain’s priorities should be stabilising relationships with existing trade partners and regaining their trust. Meanwhile, it should develop a clearer idea of what it wants its freshly independent trade policy to achieve, and why. In the coming years the UK will need to convince trade partners that it has a constructive role to play in an era where openness to trade is on the wane. At the same time, it must be honest about its limited ability to shape the global trade agenda.
...TAs with Australia, New Zealand and Canada are good to have, but replacing the EU-Japan agreement should be the UK’s priority. Japan is the third biggest investor in the UK (after the US and EU), but its companies and government view Brexit as a betrayal of trust. The British government will need to rebuild that relationship. Furthermore, the UK will need to work closely with Japan (from which it can learn a lot) in the World Trade Organization (WTO) and other forums in order to defend British interests and promote rules-based trade. Like Japan, the UK will be a mid-sized power amid tussling economic superpowers.0 -
There seems to be a bit of contradiction in that. The first but says we shouldn't rush headlong into getting an agreement with the US whilst the second part says we should be seeking to prioritise replacing the current agreement with Japan on the basis they are our 3rd biggest investor after the US.0
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If you read it in its entirety it makes more sense, as it goes on to explain why the US is tricky (and there isn't an existing agreement with the US, as, after all, Trump torpedoed the TTIP).0
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Berkshire Hunt (it should really be Berkeley Hunt). In Cockney rhyming slang, it's always the second (often missing) word of the couplet that is rhymed with the intended meaning, e.g. Ruby > Ruby Murray > curry; Cup of Rosie > Cup of Rosie Lee > Cup of Tea.surrey_commuter said:
Neither of those comments makes any senseStevo_666 said:
Cockney rhyming slang?mr_goo said:
You're not from Surrey are you? Definitely from Berkshire!surrey_commuter said:
whilst the OP is undeniably a thicko I think it is a big jump to conclude that his thinking reflects that of Brexiteers whose thinking spans between not knowing who Leo is and those who deep down think we still own the place so we call the shots.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
The Irish Government had one overriding objective in the Withdrawal Agreement phase of Brexit, namely that they would never have to implement the EU border on the island of Ireland and still protect their place in the single market.
That this has been achieved and the Brexiteer mindset still be as reflected in the thread title ("Leo having the last word because he just doesn't carry much weight") while an internal border goes up within the UK is really quite something.
Rhyming slang is a cryptolect: the intention is to hide the meaning from non-speakers. Seems to have worked
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
a huge leap of faith to believe that his suggestion that I live in Berkshire was actually a suggestion that I am a member of the Berkely Hunt which meets 100 miles to the west.rjsterry said:
Berkshire Hunt (it should really be Berkeley Hunt). In Cockney rhyming slang, it's always the second (often missing) word of the couplet that is rhymed with the intended meaning, e.g. Ruby > Ruby Murray > curry; Cup of Rosie > Cup of Rosie Lee > Cup of Tea.surrey_commuter said:
Neither of those comments makes any senseStevo_666 said:
Cockney rhyming slang?mr_goo said:
You're not from Surrey are you? Definitely from Berkshire!surrey_commuter said:
whilst the OP is undeniably a thicko I think it is a big jump to conclude that his thinking reflects that of Brexiteers whose thinking spans between not knowing who Leo is and those who deep down think we still own the place so we call the shots.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
The Irish Government had one overriding objective in the Withdrawal Agreement phase of Brexit, namely that they would never have to implement the EU border on the island of Ireland and still protect their place in the single market.
That this has been achieved and the Brexiteer mindset still be as reflected in the thread title ("Leo having the last word because he just doesn't carry much weight") while an internal border goes up within the UK is really quite something.
Rhyming slang is a cryptolect: the intention is to hide the meaning from non-speakers. Seems to have worked0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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It's not a leap of faith. He was calling you a c***. To rhyme with hunt. TBF you did start it.surrey_commuter said:
a huge leap of faith to believe that his suggestion that I live in Berkshire was actually a suggestion that I am a member of the Berkely Hunt which meets 100 miles to the west.rjsterry said:
Berkshire Hunt (it should really be Berkeley Hunt). In Cockney rhyming slang, it's always the second (often missing) word of the couplet that is rhymed with the intended meaning, e.g. Ruby > Ruby Murray > curry; Cup of Rosie > Cup of Rosie Lee > Cup of Tea.surrey_commuter said:
Neither of those comments makes any senseStevo_666 said:
Cockney rhyming slang?mr_goo said:
You're not from Surrey are you? Definitely from Berkshire!surrey_commuter said:
whilst the OP is undeniably a thicko I think it is a big jump to conclude that his thinking reflects that of Brexiteers whose thinking spans between not knowing who Leo is and those who deep down think we still own the place so we call the shots.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
The Irish Government had one overriding objective in the Withdrawal Agreement phase of Brexit, namely that they would never have to implement the EU border on the island of Ireland and still protect their place in the single market.
That this has been achieved and the Brexiteer mindset still be as reflected in the thread title ("Leo having the last word because he just doesn't carry much weight") while an internal border goes up within the UK is really quite something.
Rhyming slang is a cryptolect: the intention is to hide the meaning from non-speakers. Seems to have worked1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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This is reminds me of the old worker expression: there is no I team, but there is a u in...surrey_commuter said:
a huge leap of faith to believe that his suggestion that I live in Berkshire was actually a suggestion that I am a member of the Berkely Hunt which meets 100 miles to the west.rjsterry said:
Berkshire Hunt (it should really be Berkeley Hunt). In Cockney rhyming slang, it's always the second (often missing) word of the couplet that is rhymed with the intended meaning, e.g. Ruby > Ruby Murray > curry; Cup of Rosie > Cup of Rosie Lee > Cup of Tea.surrey_commuter said:
Neither of those comments makes any senseStevo_666 said:
Cockney rhyming slang?mr_goo said:
You're not from Surrey are you? Definitely from Berkshire!surrey_commuter said:
whilst the OP is undeniably a thicko I think it is a big jump to conclude that his thinking reflects that of Brexiteers whose thinking spans between not knowing who Leo is and those who deep down think we still own the place so we call the shots.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
The Irish Government had one overriding objective in the Withdrawal Agreement phase of Brexit, namely that they would never have to implement the EU border on the island of Ireland and still protect their place in the single market.
That this has been achieved and the Brexiteer mindset still be as reflected in the thread title ("Leo having the last word because he just doesn't carry much weight") while an internal border goes up within the UK is really quite something.
Rhyming slang is a cryptolect: the intention is to hide the meaning from non-speakers. Seems to have worked0 -
Absolutely no problem with him insulting me but what is the point when you get the rhyme wrong. nobody interchanges ruby with diamond or emeraldrjsterry said:
It's not a leap of faith. He was calling you a c***. To rhyme with hunt. TBF you did start it.surrey_commuter said:
a huge leap of faith to believe that his suggestion that I live in Berkshire was actually a suggestion that I am a member of the Berkely Hunt which meets 100 miles to the west.rjsterry said:
Berkshire Hunt (it should really be Berkeley Hunt). In Cockney rhyming slang, it's always the second (often missing) word of the couplet that is rhymed with the intended meaning, e.g. Ruby > Ruby Murray > curry; Cup of Rosie > Cup of Rosie Lee > Cup of Tea.surrey_commuter said:
Neither of those comments makes any senseStevo_666 said:
Cockney rhyming slang?mr_goo said:
You're not from Surrey are you? Definitely from Berkshire!surrey_commuter said:
whilst the OP is undeniably a thicko I think it is a big jump to conclude that his thinking reflects that of Brexiteers whose thinking spans between not knowing who Leo is and those who deep down think we still own the place so we call the shots.tailwindhome said:I note the change in thread title.
The Irish Government had one overriding objective in the Withdrawal Agreement phase of Brexit, namely that they would never have to implement the EU border on the island of Ireland and still protect their place in the single market.
That this has been achieved and the Brexiteer mindset still be as reflected in the thread title ("Leo having the last word because he just doesn't carry much weight") while an internal border goes up within the UK is really quite something.
Rhyming slang is a cryptolect: the intention is to hide the meaning from non-speakers. Seems to have worked0
