BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

rjsterry

Cabinet life sounds fun (miserable).

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... y-cummings

orraloon

Brexit will free us from unelected bureaucrats running our affairs, telling us what to do... no?...

kingstonian

Surrey Commuter wrote:

interesting article in The Times about the UK car industry... at least there will be less congestion at the ports

The British automotive manufacturing industry has slumped to its 14th successive month of decline with production at a seven-year low.

With the new figures showing exports of British-made cars sharply in reverse, a separate report published yesterday also claims that UK motor factories face £4 billion a year in extra costs, mainly made up of tariffs and border-post friction in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

Latest data from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) showed a 10 per cent fall in production from Britain’s car plants in July. In the year to date factories have produced 180,000 fewer cars, at 955,000, meaning that Britain’s carworkers are producing 26,000 fewer cars a month.

Cars built for export, which make up about four in every five rolling off UK assembly lines, have fallen by 20 per cent.

In 2016 British factories produced 1.72 million cars, with forecasts suggesting they could be on track to eclipse the all-time record of 1.92 million set in 1972. The SMMT trade body is now forecasting a figure of 1.37 million for 2019.

The number of cars purchased across Europe is declining so I would expect most manufacturers are seeing declines. There may be a Brexit-related side to this but that isn't the only factor

cycleclinic

rjsterry wrote:

Cabinet life sounds fun (miserable).

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... y-cummings

FFS that's nasty. One side of me think there has to be displi e in the ranks but being dismissed like that should be unlawful in any line of work.

cycleclinic

In a you Gov poll most brits oppose prorouging parliament. There maybe hope for us yet.

The Tories are split down the middle on it. That's also good news for the rest of us. They have been tearing themselves apart for 30 years it about time they split but they like power more so far.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar ... suspension

Latest you gov poll
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar ... 7-brex-13-

Is 21% enough with labour's vote to deny the tories a majority or could they scrape through with minority government propped up by the DUP and brexit party.

tailwindhome

There seems to be a weakness in the Government ranks on proroguing.
They're so delighted with their own brilliance that they can't stop themselves from admitting it's to push Brexit

Johnny Mercer - In his Newsletter
https://mailchi.mp/johnnyforplymouth.co ... rom-johnny

"the new Prime Minister prorogues Parliament to finally get BREXIT delivered. "


Boris Johnson

'My anxiety is that stuff going on in Parliament can actually undermine the UK's negotiating position'

https://twitter.com/GeorgePeretzQC/stat ... 0753725440

cycleclinic

They still think this is a negotiation.

kingstongraham

The only people the government can be playing chicken with are the MPs. May's deal is coming back, I'm sure that's the plan. It will probably pass this time unless the government falls before then.

rjsterry

TailWindHome wrote:

There seems to be a weakness in the Government ranks on proroguing.
They're so delighted with their own brilliance that they can't stop themselves from admitting it's to push Brexit

Johnny Mercer - In his Newsletter
https://mailchi.mp/johnnyforplymouth.co ... rom-johnny

"the new Prime Minister prorogues Parliament to finally get BREXIT delivered. "


Boris Johnson

'My anxiety is that stuff going on in Parliament can actually undermine the UK's negotiating position'

https://twitter.com/GeorgePeretzQC/stat ... 0753725440

I like the line in one of the replies. "No amount of 'guys, guys, shush. We're negotiating' is going to convince anyone.

tailwindhome

TailWindHome wrote:

There seems to be a weakness in the Government ranks on proroguing.
They're so delighted with their own brilliance that they can't stop themselves from admitting it's to push Brexit

Johnny Mercer - In his Newsletter
https://mailchi.mp/johnnyforplymouth.co ... rom-johnny

"the new Prime Minister prorogues Parliament to finally get BREXIT delivered. "


Boris Johnson

'My anxiety is that stuff going on in Parliament can actually undermine the UK's negotiating position'

https://twitter.com/GeorgePeretzQC/stat ... 0753725440

Another one

https://twitter.com/ShaileshVara/status ... 00672?s=19

Ben6899

Still waiting...

Ben6899 wrote:

Thanks...

Ben6899 wrote:

Coopster and Goo.

In simple bullet points.

Tell us why leaving the EU on 31st October, with No Deal, is a good thing that you're desperate to see happen.

Thank you

tailwindhome

Department for Exiting the EU

@DExEUgov
· 2h
We're focussed on getting a good deal that honours the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement, but as Brexit Secretary @SteveBarclay told business leaders in Paris this week we're leaving on 31 October whatever happens. #BrexitReady

The 'But' in this tweet going down well in Ireland.

tailwindhome

Rick Chasey wrote:

In the context of the challenges of EU citizens are having in the UK and visa versa, the 'start packing' comment was particularly tasteless, but then I realised you [Coopster] are too thick to get the context, so I relaxed again.

Andy Bruce
@BruceReuters
Here's Anna Amato, a Bristolian who's lived in the UK since moving from Italy aged 2. By her estimate she's paid more than £500k tax after working here for 40 years.

Request for permanent residency? Denied.

"Where do I go? It is really, really scary."

https://twitter.com/BruceReuters/status ... 2591591425

tailwindhome

Steve Barclay MP
@SteveBarclay
Of course we all know there's an issue with cross-Channel traffic. That's why we're engaging, myself in Paris on Wed,
@michaelgove
in Calais today. But right now the Commission is refusing to discuss no-deal mitigations. We should have those talks now alongside talks on a deal.

I've posted this but the enormity of it's contents have shocked me into silence.

rjsterry

How long do you think before there is a he-goes-or-I-go situation between Johnson, one of his ministers and Cummings? It's been, what, 6 weeks and Javid is barely allowed to be Chancellor.

tailwindhome

rjsterry wrote:

How long do you think before there is a he-goes-or-I-go situation between Johnson, one of his ministers and Cummings? It's been, what, 6 weeks and Javid is barely allowed to be Chancellor.

Sebastian Payne
@SebastianEPayne
· 17m
At a weekly gathering of special advisers in No.10, Cummings was queried about Sonia Khan’s dismissal. According to several individuals in the room, he responded “if you don’t like how I run things, there’s the door”, adding that critics could “fuck off”





Not long I'd have thought.

tailwindhome

WTF?

kingstongraham

Would that force the government to actively leave if they wanted October to be the date, rather than being forced out without a deal? That's funny. Would show they take him seriously, but don't want to force a no-deal.

rick_chasey

TailWindHome wrote:

WTF?

Yes, why a nonce would get such smiling crowds is beyond me.

robert88

Brexit. Just a means to authoritarian single-party power? I believe it is.

Many in Britain are now springing to the defence of parliament and elected representation, but they should have sprung a bit earlier. Those in the Labour Party who were neutral about Brexit – or even saw it as a welcome disruption of the status quo and an opportunity for radical reform – only now seem to be noticing that Brexit was always a vehicle whereby the hard right could take over the government.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bo ... 86011.html

Ben6899

Rick Chasey wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

WTF?

Yes, why a nonce would get such smiling crowds is beyond me.

Like. But one of the Immediate Media legal team just woke up in a cold sweat and is wondering why!

robert88

Robert88 wrote:

Brexit. Just a means to authoritarian single-party power? I believe it is.

Many in Britain are now springing to the defence of parliament and elected representation, but they should have sprung a bit earlier. Those in the Labour Party who were neutral about Brexit – or even saw it as a welcome disruption of the status quo and an opportunity for radical reform – only now seem to be noticing that Brexit was always a vehicle whereby the hard right could take over the government.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bo ... 86011.html

Not that it matters when we have the ROyals to keep us amused

Stevo_666

TailWindHome wrote:

WTF?

The EU about to blink first?

surrey_commuter

Stevo 666 wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

WTF?

The EU about to blink first?

I saw it as a genius plan to pull the rug out from under the twat.

Stevo_666

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

WTF?

The EU about to blink first?

I saw it as a genius plan to pull the rug out from under the fool.

That's the other way of looking at it, which I fully expected most people on here to say as otherwise it might appear that Boris' plan to look like he means it is actually working.

rjsterry

Stevo 666 wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

WTF?

The EU about to blink first?

This seems to be just something that Gordon Brown has said, but nobody's backed it up. I don't think the EU can unilaterally extend the deadline.

I'm also not convinced it would be helpful in the long term.

Stevo_666

It was only claimed, hence the question mark from me.

However as it was speculated to be part of the EU master plan, I felt it needed a bit of balance

tailwindhome

rjsterry wrote:

I don't think the EU can unilaterally extend the deadline.

They can't.


Nor, as I understand it can they keep the UK in the EU until then.

surrey_commuter

TailWindHome wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

I don't think the EU can unilaterally extend the deadline.

They can't.


Nor, as I understand it can they keep the UK in the EU until then.

But the BoJo plan is to blame the EU for no-deal so applying pressure for them to blink. By them removing the deadline it would make it a free choice by the UK to leave with no-deal. It really is very clever. I imagine Cummings sitting in his lair tipping his hat to a worthy adversary.

rick_chasey

Surrey Commuter wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

I don't think the EU can unilaterally extend the deadline.

They can't.


Nor, as I understand it can they keep the UK in the EU until then.

But the BoJo plan is to blame the EU for no-deal so applying pressure for them to blink. By them removing the deadline it would make it a free choice by the UK to leave with no-deal. It really is very clever. I imagine Cummings sitting in his lair tipping his hat to a worthy adversary.

Is it not to get cosmetic changes to the WA and keep parliament so short all they can do is WA or no deal and put it on MPs.

Ie May’s plan on steroids.