Help: Boardman HT Comp 650b, Sell Or Keep?

Angus Young

I'm very impressed that the mods have let this run for so long. Well done you. Hours of fun.

Cody

paul.skibum wrote:

Cody wrote:

As I say - buy clothes that fit - some shops do seel skinny jeans and tight tee shirts but you can still buy clothes that fit if you look around. I spend most of my time in a pair of 501's and a tee shirt when I am not wearing my bike or ski gear.

Cody wrote:

In the final autheiticated divine book, God asks us to look at his design in creation and he says, "You do not see in the creation of the most merciful, any inconsistencies, so return your vision to the sky, do you see any breaks? then return your vision twice again, it will return to you humbled, while it is fatigued."

No inconsistencies? The merciful God created the his perfect world with diseases to kill us, disasters to lay waste to populations? He created man as a vengeful, violent creature with conflicting versions of who He is and conflicting understandings of His teachings that bring them to war. He sent his prophets to teach man about his laws before man had learnt to write which made things a little tricky.

And what is the "final authenticated divine book" by the way? Authenticated being a very subjective view in this case I suspect.

Paul.skibum - He created this world we believe for us to use. Our time is limited on earth and our average life span is only 70-75 years. He did not create diseases, why would he kill his own people unjustly, he can't be a just and forgiving god if he did such a thing. There are reasons for diseases spreading, majority of them are man made like Aids and other diseases like H.I.V are as a result from illicit acts such as fornication and adultery. The final prophet has prophecised that in the end times, people will die from sexual related diseases. How could a man have known this 1400 years ago who lived in the middle of a desert with no scientific knowledge like they have today as a result of prominent research from people of the highest eminence? Some other small commonly known diseases like flu and fever and cough have been explained in our faith as when god inflicts these kind of diseases on someone, they are a form of forgiveness from the most high for minor sins. I'll give you an example, it's unknown what can cause cancer and what can cure it, but as believers we believe it is god forgiving the person for his sins before he is to die, an alleviation of major sins.

I'd rather not explain what the final book is, too many people on this forum very anti-religious.

Cody

Sorry I had to rush that last comment of mine without enough explanation as had some people come over and had to chat to them.

Cody

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check out my lights which cooldad recommended me to buy, they're not very bright at night. I might buy another for the front.

Cody

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this is the rear, very small, and not very bright.

Cody

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decided to let off 1 of the last remaining four fountain fireworks I had left. very nice lol

cooldad

Cody wrote:

He did not create diseases, why would he kill his own people unjustly, he can't be a just and forgiving god if he did such a thing. There are reasons for diseases spreading, majority of them are man made like Aids and other diseases like H.I.V are as a result from illicit acts such as fornication and adultery.

So next time a baby dies of a nasty disease, it's all their own fault because they fornicated.

Ever heard of malaria?

You are batshit crazy.

paul.skibum

Cody wrote:

Paul.skibum - He created this world we believe for us to use. Our time is limited on earth and our average life span is only 70-75 years. He did not create diseases, why would he kill his own people unjustly, he can't be a just and forgiving god if he did such a thing. There are reasons for diseases spreading, majority of them are man made like Aids and other diseases like H.I.V are as a result from illicit acts such as fornication and adultery. The final prophet has prophecised that in the end times, people will die from sexual related diseases. How could a man have known this 1400 years ago who lived in the middle of a desert with no scientific knowledge like they have today as a result of prominent research from people of the highest eminence? Some other small commonly known diseases like flu and fever and cough have been explained in our faith as when god inflicts these kind of diseases on someone, they are a form of forgiveness from the most high for minor sins. I'll give you an example, it's unknown what can cause cancer and what can cure it, but as believers we believe it is god forgiving the person for his sins before he is to die, an alleviation of major sins.

I'd rather not explain what the final book is, too many people on this forum very anti-religious.

So God didn't create disease they are man made due to our sin? All diseases? So does the level of sin change the severity of the disease - steal an apple create a cold? Bugger another man creates AIDS? Killing someone causes cancer perhaps?

You didn't mention God's thoughts on "natural" disasters. I assume if you think diseases are not His work you would assume they aren't either as why would He create a world capable of killing many of his worshipers? So does sin cause disasters too? A landslide destroys a village in India due to the greed of bankers in New York? An avalanche kills three climbers because of blasphemy in Kingston Lacey?

Surely He created Hell to deal with sin rather than visiting other additional pain upon the sinners on earth as well?

I'd still like the hear about the authenticated final book though. I mean, its authenticated. Got to be worth a look right?

welshkev

This smacks of the ukip politician/candidate who blamed the flooding on gay marrige.

But no, you're not manipulated or brainwashed :roll:

Angus Young

welshkev wrote:

This smacks of the ukip politician/candidate who blamed the flooding on gay marrige.

But no, you're not manipulated or brainwashed :roll:

"If you bum, floods will come." Isaiah 15, Chapter 7, Verse 12.

rockmonkeysc

It's obvious God sent floods as a punishment for homosexuality. Everyone knows the whole Somerset levels are flaming, man on man action everywhere. I'm slightly confused as to why Brighton hasn't been turned in to Atlantis though.

rgliniany

If god is so great and nice and forgiving and stuff :roll:


why did he let two W@&%$rs break into my garage and steal my bikes without letting me know in advance so i could be at the gate with a heavy hammer to say cheerio to them as they cycled off with things i toiled to own?

i call a sham!

Angus Young

RockmonkeySC wrote:

I'm slightly confused as to why Brighton hasn't been turned in to Atlantis though.

You'd expect at least a burst water main in Old Compton Street, too.

paul.skibum

God is omnipotent but he's not very even handed. I had a cold the other week but hadnt done anything remotely bad but one of my colleagues at work refuses to do his share of the filing but he was fine.

It's sh*t like this that makes me atheist I tell you.

homers_double

paul.skibum wrote:

God is omnipotent but he's not very even handed. I had a cold the other week but hadnt done anything remotely bad but one of my colleagues at work refuses to do his share of the filing but he was fine.

It's sh*t like this that makes me atheist I tell you.

Aside from all this crap, someone told me that Easter is the best time to ski at Whistler, whats your opinion Paul?

I might try a cheeky few weeks this season.

cooldad

paul.skibum wrote:

God is omnipotent but he's not very even handed. I had a cold the other week but hadnt done anything remotely bad but one of my colleagues at work refuses to do his share of the filing but he was fine.

It's sh*t like this that makes me atheist I tell you.

You think?

You saw a woman. You thought nomnomnom.
Not only did you have impure thoughts, but you coveted your neighbour's ass. Two sins.

And bore false witness about it in public. Three sins.

A cold is the least of your problems.

I speak as an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church* - seriously, I am legally a reverend. So my word carries more authority than Cody's.

* It's real and legal. Other notable ministers are/were Hugh Hefner, all of The Beatles, Richard Branson and Gandalf.

http://www.ulc.org/

Cody

C.S Lewis was an atheist, but turned to god when he discovered intelligent design.
Dr Maurice Bucaille the French surgeon turned to god when he discovered evil Pharoahs preserved body prophecys in the final revelation, The Holy Qur'an and wrote a world famous book, the Bible, The Qur'an and science which has been read by millions of scientists all over the world.

So many more. But I would just like to briefly say this.

Many scientists and Atheists believe that Science proves there is no god. Those who believe in gods existence say he created the universe and, life itself. This battle between 2 world views has raged in our classrooms across the country between Creationists and Darwinians for decades. The only difference is the battle between today and yours past is that some scientists and prominent famous atheists now believe science is providing evidence for the very existence of god. On the one hand you have evolution, on the other you have intelligent design or creation. It's a battle which is waging across many schools in the country and other regions across the world.

There are textbooks now teaching evolution in major states in American schools, which was once a Christian country. The books which state before reading that, "This textbook contains material on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact regarding the origin of living things. This material should be studied with an open mind, studied carefully and critically considered." - (Approved by Cobb County Board of Education, Thursday March 28th, 2002)

Professor Anthony Flew, a popular atheist who teaches at a university somewhere in the UK I think Reading in Berkshire, had a thesis, his argument was against god and it basically was this;

- the universe was eternal, always existed and always will.
- that life is a random process, the result or accidental product of chemical reaction.
- the existence of god as self contradiction, and evil is not compatible with existence of god.

But guess what, it is now because of the advancement of science which has changed the mind of Flew and not all, but some scientists aswell. At a recent summit at New York University, Flew changed his position and now believes in god as the creator of the universe. He turned to various discoveries in science, to prove his point. From the fossil records which show the full appearance of fully developed life to the emergence of visual consciousness across the animal kingdom to the basic need for reproduction. But it was the manifestation for life, written in DNA, and the transcription from DNA to RNA and RNA in to protein and the subsequent process in to protein folding, this made a good case or the best case for Professor Flew.

In 2004 Professor Anthony Flew said in a statement on TV in a debate with Jewish and Christian scholars, he said "what I think the DNA material has done has shown by unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which lead to produce the human being and that intelligence must have been involved to get extraordinary diverse elements to work together."

Anyway, as for the battle between creation and evolution in the classroom, it may never end.

But it may be explained best, by re-quoting Professor Flew.

... which look to me like the work of intelligence. (Professor Anthony Flew - Former Atheist)

Angus Young

Just when we thought you couldn't get any dumber or misguided, you go and invoke 'intelligent' design.

rockmonkeysc

The human body is not intelligent design unless it was done when god was working on his product design degree project. An early effort that he couldn't be bothered to finish.

BloggingFit

Wasn't purgatory created for the earlier botched attempts...

cooldad

Cody wrote:

There are textbooks now teaching evolution in major states in American schools, which was once a Christian country. The books which state before reading that, "This textbook contains material on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact regarding the origin of living things. This material should be studied with an open mind, studied carefully and critically considered." - (Approved by Cobb County Board of Education, Thursday March 28th, 2002)
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A school board in Georgia is the best you can do? Seriously. These guys believe the world is 6000 years old.
From Wiki

In 2005, Cobb County School District voted to put stickers on textbooks with a message including the admonition cautioning students that, "evolution is only a theory". Plaintiffs brought suit on separation of church and state grounds, with the initial trial finding for the plaintiffs. Cobb County School District appealed and the verdict was overturned and remanded for a new trial, at which time plaintiffs and Cobb County School District reached an out-of-court settlement, with the district agreeing to remove the stickers.


ps your arguments are termed 'an appeal to authority'. Just because someone with some letters spouts random garbage doesn't make it true.

BloggingFit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIcqbpHE5Bo

cooldad

Cody wrote:

Many scientists and Atheists believe that Science proves there is no god.

No, they don't. Any decent scientist would suggest that there is no proof of the existence of a god or gods.

An atheist (note lower case 'a') simply does not believe in a deity. A theist does.

rockmonkeysc

It cannot be proved that god doesn't exist but if he/she does exist that could be proved.

Angus Young

RockmonkeySC wrote:

The human body is not intelligent design unless it was done when god was working on his product design degree project. An early effort that he couldn't be bothered to finish.

As the old joke goes, no 'intelligent' designer would put a leisure centre in the middle of a sewage plant.

cooldad

Angus Young wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

The human body is not intelligent design unless it was done when god was working on his product design degree project. An early effort that he couldn't be bothered to finish.

As the old joke goes, no 'intelligent' designer would put a leisure centre in the middle of a sewage plant.

I heard a rumour on the internet that to some (including many desert dwellers), the sewage plant is the leisure centre.

Angus Young

cooldad wrote:

Angus Young wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

The human body is not intelligent design unless it was done when god was working on his product design degree project. An early effort that he couldn't be bothered to finish.

As the old joke goes, no 'intelligent' designer would put a leisure centre in the middle of a sewage plant.

I heard a rumour on the internet that to some (including many desert dwellers), the sewage plant is the leisure centre.

Yes, I heard that rumour, too. I couldn't possibly comment...

Cody

Went for a bike ride last night, did 20 minutes, as usual. I really struggle in the evenings, don't know why. Had 3 small meals today, breakfast at 10, sandwich at 3 and evening meal at 6.30. I find that after I get going after 10 minutes I'm warmed up and want to keep on going but I then go home after 20 minutes of riding. I get really tired. I've lost some weight but not a significant amount.

To be honest, I don't know how much longer I can keep this up. I haven't really started cycling further distances and I'm finding it difficult. Is there a best time to ride as part of a weekly exercise plan? sometimes I prefer mornings, does that mean I'm weaker in evenings after a hard days work in the office? whats the best way or a good way?

I'm off out for a ride shortly then going to bed around 10.30.

Angus Young

Exercise make you tired. What's the mystery?

neilus

Cody wrote:

Went for a bike ride last night, did 20 minutes, as usual. I really struggle in the evenings, don't know why...To be honest, I don't know how much longer I can keep this up. I haven't really started cycling further distances and I'm finding it difficult

For crying out loud man, if its really such a hassle (ive not read ONE word to suggest that you even remotely enjoy cycling), knock it on the head and find something you enjoy doing!!