The Irony Thread
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What we've got here is failure to produce irony. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. . . well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Irony thread getting all serious.0
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In the UK more black lives would be saved if they took a leaf out of the BLM wokebook and black on black gang violence was extinguished...
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The huge overlap of the venn diagram between the BLM wokey's and Extremist Rebellion.0
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Piers Morgan tweeting his pride in his son for attending a BLM march which breaks the rules on gatherings and social distancing he's been boorishly and boringly berating people for breaking these past months. Elephant headed hypocrite.1
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nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? Is that ironic?0 -
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kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.
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Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.0 -
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.0 -
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.0 -
Surely it's ironic that while accusing me of making assumptions based on his race, you're also making assumptions about his background because he studied architecture.kingstongraham said:
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.
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The difference is that I'm not.nickice said:
Surely it's ironic that while accusing me of making assumptions based on his race, you're also making assumptions about his background because he studied architecture.kingstongraham said:
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.0 -
What information are you privy to that I'm not? Why were you telling me he studied architecture?kingstongraham said:
The difference is that I'm not.nickice said:
Surely it's ironic that while accusing me of making assumptions based on his race, you're also making assumptions about his background because he studied architecture.kingstongraham said:
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.0 -
Thought it might help you see that you might have made assumptions about him that are not justified. Seemingly not though, so I shall bid you good day.nickice said:
What information are you privy to that I'm not? Why were you telling me he studied architecture?kingstongraham said:
The difference is that I'm not.nickice said:
Surely it's ironic that while accusing me of making assumptions based on his race, you're also making assumptions about his background because he studied architecture.kingstongraham said:
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.0 -
I'm afraid I don't see the connection. Unless you're suggesting that only middle-class kids go to university. Perhaps he came from a high-crime area but went to university? I don't know if that's true but you've made the assumption it isn't.kingstongraham said:
Thought it might help you see that you might have made assumptions about him that are not justified. Seemingly not though, so I shall bid you good day.nickice said:
What information are you privy to that I'm not? Why were you telling me he studied architecture?kingstongraham said:
The difference is that I'm not.nickice said:
Surely it's ironic that while accusing me of making assumptions based on his race, you're also making assumptions about his background because he studied architecture.kingstongraham said:
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.
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nickice said:
I'm afraid I don't see the connection. Unless you're suggesting that only middle-class kids go to university. Perhaps he came from a high-crime area but went to university? I don't know if that's true but you've made the assumption it isn't.kingstongraham said:
Thought it might help you see that you might have made assumptions about him that are not justified. Seemingly not though, so I shall bid you good day.nickice said:
What information are you privy to that I'm not? Why were you telling me he studied architecture?kingstongraham said:
The difference is that I'm not.nickice said:
Surely it's ironic that while accusing me of making assumptions based on his race, you're also making assumptions about his background because he studied architecture.kingstongraham said:
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.
One of us has seen him perform live a few times, listened to him talk about his background etc, what his life in Middlesex is like. The other has no clue who he is. I just threw a few snippets about him to say that maybe he isn't who you first assumed, but as you seem to quite often do, you took a single piece of information and treated it as if it's the whole story.
So I say good day.
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So, let me get this straight, I say it might be a class issue and you say he studied architecture and I'm not supposed to take that as an assumption that working-class people don't go to university? Come on!kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I'm afraid I don't see the connection. Unless you're suggesting that only middle-class kids go to university. Perhaps he came from a high-crime area but went to university? I don't know if that's true but you've made the assumption it isn't.kingstongraham said:
Thought it might help you see that you might have made assumptions about him that are not justified. Seemingly not though, so I shall bid you good day.nickice said:
What information are you privy to that I'm not? Why were you telling me he studied architecture?kingstongraham said:
The difference is that I'm not.nickice said:
Surely it's ironic that while accusing me of making assumptions based on his race, you're also making assumptions about his background because he studied architecture.kingstongraham said:
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.
One of us has seen him perform live a few times, listened to him talk about his background etc, what his life in Middlesex is like. The other has no clue who he is. I just threw a few snippets about him to say that maybe he isn't who you first assumed, but as you seem to quite often do, you took a single piece of information and treated it as if it's the whole story.
So I say good day.0 -
You're doing it again.nickice said:
So, let me get this straight, I say it might be a class issue and you say he studied architecture and I'm not supposed to take that as an assumption that working-class people don't go to university? Come on!kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I'm afraid I don't see the connection. Unless you're suggesting that only middle-class kids go to university. Perhaps he came from a high-crime area but went to university? I don't know if that's true but you've made the assumption it isn't.kingstongraham said:
Thought it might help you see that you might have made assumptions about him that are not justified. Seemingly not though, so I shall bid you good day.nickice said:
What information are you privy to that I'm not? Why were you telling me he studied architecture?kingstongraham said:
The difference is that I'm not.nickice said:
Surely it's ironic that while accusing me of making assumptions based on his race, you're also making assumptions about his background because he studied architecture.kingstongraham said:
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.
One of us has seen him perform live a few times, listened to him talk about his background etc, what his life in Middlesex is like. The other has no clue who he is. I just threw a few snippets about him to say that maybe he isn't who you first assumed, but as you seem to quite often do, you took a single piece of information and treated it as if it's the whole story.
So I say good day.
I thought that an architect with a radio 4 show sounded pretty middle class.0 -
Yes sure. 'Is it a class issue?' 'He studied Architecture at university...' Nobody should assume anything from that...kingstongraham said:
You're doing it again.nickice said:
So, let me get this straight, I say it might be a class issue and you say he studied architecture and I'm not supposed to take that as an assumption that working-class people don't go to university? Come on!kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I'm afraid I don't see the connection. Unless you're suggesting that only middle-class kids go to university. Perhaps he came from a high-crime area but went to university? I don't know if that's true but you've made the assumption it isn't.kingstongraham said:
Thought it might help you see that you might have made assumptions about him that are not justified. Seemingly not though, so I shall bid you good day.nickice said:
What information are you privy to that I'm not? Why were you telling me he studied architecture?kingstongraham said:
The difference is that I'm not.nickice said:
Surely it's ironic that while accusing me of making assumptions based on his race, you're also making assumptions about his background because he studied architecture.kingstongraham said:
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.
One of us has seen him perform live a few times, listened to him talk about his background etc, what his life in Middlesex is like. The other has no clue who he is. I just threw a few snippets about him to say that maybe he isn't who you first assumed, but as you seem to quite often do, you took a single piece of information and treated it as if it's the whole story.
So I say good day.
I thought that an architect with a radio 4 show sounded pretty middle class.0 -
Allo. allo, allo. Wos goin' on 'ere then?!seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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I didn't say those words, but anyway.nickice said:
Yes sure. 'Is it a class issue?' 'He studied Architecture at university...' Nobody should assume anything from that...kingstongraham said:
You're doing it again.nickice said:
So, let me get this straight, I say it might be a class issue and you say he studied architecture and I'm not supposed to take that as an assumption that working-class people don't go to university? Come on!kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I'm afraid I don't see the connection. Unless you're suggesting that only middle-class kids go to university. Perhaps he came from a high-crime area but went to university? I don't know if that's true but you've made the assumption it isn't.kingstongraham said:
Thought it might help you see that you might have made assumptions about him that are not justified. Seemingly not though, so I shall bid you good day.nickice said:
What information are you privy to that I'm not? Why were you telling me he studied architecture?kingstongraham said:
The difference is that I'm not.nickice said:
Surely it's ironic that while accusing me of making assumptions based on his race, you're also making assumptions about his background because he studied architecture.kingstongraham said:
He's a qualified architect, but decided not to follow that up, so left and has since had his own series on radio 4.nickice said:
People from ethnic minorities in the middle-class are I grew up in didn't tend to have the same experiences as that guy on twitter.kingstongraham said:
Haha.nickice said:kingstongraham said:nickice said:
I don't think there's any doubt that racism exists but it was a question as to whether the UK is systemically or institutionally racist. Don't you think it looks like more of a class issue? Your average, for want of a better word, ned in parts of Scotland could probably give the same answers (well a part from the skin colour part)kingstongraham said:This might not be the place but...
Doesn't the fact you made an assumption about his class kind of help make a point? i Is that ironic?
i made the class comment because of his answers not because he was black.
One of us has seen him perform live a few times, listened to him talk about his background etc, what his life in Middlesex is like. The other has no clue who he is. I just threw a few snippets about him to say that maybe he isn't who you first assumed, but as you seem to quite often do, you took a single piece of information and treated it as if it's the whole story.
So I say good day.
I thought that an architect with a radio 4 show sounded pretty middle class.
You're basically saying he hasn't encountered racism in the way he describes. Which is a fucking weird position to take.
So again, good day to you.0 -
same argument in every threadpinno said:Allo. allo, allo. Wos goin' on 'ere then?!
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For what it's worth, I'm not sure what you are arguing in this particular case.kingstongraham said:
same argument in every threadpinno said:Allo. allo, allo. Wos goin' on 'ere then?!
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Is this part of that 'consciousness' thingy?kingstongraham said:
same argument in every threadpinno said:Allo. allo, allo. Wos goin' on 'ere then?!
I'm wide awake but haven't the foggiest.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
That Nathan Caton has experienced racism, like he says he has. I don't know WHY I am though.TheBigBean said:
For what it's worth, I'm not sure what you are arguing in this particular case.kingstongraham said:
same argument in every threadpinno said:Allo. allo, allo. Wos goin' on 'ere then?!
So I'll stop. And my apologies to all for the ludicrous diversion.0 -
Well, I now know who Nathan Caton is. Apparently he has a degree in architecture...kingstongraham said:
That Nathan Caton has experienced racism, like he says he has. I don't know WHY I am though.TheBigBean said:
For what it's worth, I'm not sure what you are arguing in this particular case.kingstongraham said:
same argument in every threadpinno said:Allo. allo, allo. Wos goin' on 'ere then?!
So I'll stop. And my apologies to all for the ludicrous diversion.0 -
I think having an architecture degree but not becoming an architect raises a person up the social scale (sorry RJS
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