Prototype enduro bike's galore!

paul.skibum

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Leogang is just a bike park track.

What does that statement even mean? Whistler is a bike park and whilst some of the trails are easy enough the full on Canadian Open is not easy and definitely needs a DH bike to do it at speed. Champery is (technically) a bike park track too. Hajfell also. Nobody seems to mind their inclusion on any list of DH tracks, same with Lenzeheide (spelling) for next year - sure its purpose built for racing but its still within a bike park setting.

I dont see the complaint against Leogang - the racing from there for the past two seasons has been tight, thrilling and from what I read most of the pros actually like the majority of it. Same with Windham - one line? short? the racing was still thrilling and Bryceland proved that if you look there are alternate lines in there.

CitizenLee wrote:

supersonic wrote:

Would be pretty amazing to me to find that after 30 years of MTbing we were half an inch out ;-)

Haha, the whole wheel size debate summed up in one sentence

half an inch? My Bronson in a 2.3 trail tyre is more like an inch and a half bigger in diameter on the wheel than my big hit shod with 2.5 DH tyres - so I`d disagree with the half inch out stuff - I know SS you don`t like 650B but you trot out this nonsense about having the same diameter on a 26er if you put a big tyre on but nobody makes big enough tyres to do that!

I`d like to do a back to back test of a similar bike to my Bronson but with 26 inch wheels to get a better comparison of the difference but I know I like the way the 650B handles and carries itself on the terrain I am riding everyday.

supersonic

You're quite right it's not half an inch. Just less, the radius of the rim is 12.5mm larger.

I have never said I dislike 650b.

And it's not nonsense either, it does depend on the tyre. More larger 650b tyres are now available (DH ones - and many models of larger tyres as well - were simply not available when 650b hit the market and I first said these things in WMB), and let me guess a 2.5 inch maxxis high roller or minion? I have 2.2 tyres larger than those. The larger tyre on a smaller rim does make sense for some if they want a certain overall radius as they can take advantage of the attributes of a larger tyre. Don't misquote me and say it is nonsense, is out of order.

paul.skibum

High roller 2 on the Bronson - Specialized Clutch/Butcher on the Big Hit.

Angus Young

supersonic wrote:

I have never said I dislike 650b.

Sounds like it, though.

lawman

Not an enduro bike but just to add fuel to the fire...



New Yeti SB8? Certainly looks pretty polished and not far off production

CitizenLee

That seat tube / shock junction

rockmonkeysc

I hope it's a major important on Yeti's last DH bike.

lawman

I've just read on mtbr that it's a very early prototype to test leverage rates and the suspension platform, so it's far from the finished article as I first suspected. One of the Yeti employee's also said its likely to be carbon when it goes into production, but that's a long way off yet apparently.

benpinnick

Not quite as prototype as you may have thought....

rockmonkeysc

Seat tube looks very short on that, how long is it on the large?

CitizenLee

Looks great Ben! Impressive spec across the range too!

For those that don't check Dirt Mag...

http://dirtmountainbike.com/fresh-produ ... ml#!bDYp5t

ej2320

Sweeeeet, looks different to all the mainstream bikes out there.. In a good way
Just under £900 for a frameset! Puts Orange to shame on value

CitizenLee

ej2320 wrote:

Orange to shame on value

It could be argued there are few brands who don't

lawman

The geometry looks cracking on paper! Nice long tt, low bb and shortish chainstays and the price is pretty staggering! Bit heavier and not as carbon as I usually like but I'd be interested to see how it rode! Chuck on a 36 and some Enve's and that could be a damn nice ride 8)

benpinnick

RockmonkeySC that's the xs. Seat tube on the large is 18.5.

Angus Young

benpinnick wrote:

RockmonkeySC that's the xs. Seat tube on the large is 18.5.

What size rider would the xs be suitable for and how much does it weigh?

benpinnick

Probably down to about 5', maybe 5' 2. 6.5 lbs in xs

Angus Young

benpinnick wrote:

Probably down to about 5', maybe 5' 2. 6.5 lbs in xs

And a rough guess for an average build weight for the xs?

benpinnick

29lbs but that's going to be fairly burly.

Angus Young

Interesting. I've just measured my daughter and she's got 7" to go, but... She's on a Scott Spark Jr 20 at the moment but she'll have outgrown that before too long so I'm starting to think about where she goes next.

ncn

Looks awesome to be fair! Whens availability on these?

benpinnick

January

felix.london

CitizenLee wrote:

Looks great Ben! Impressive spec across the range too!

For those that don't check Dirt Mag...

http://dirtmountainbike.com/fresh-produ ... ml#!bDYp5t

Spec/geo look on point to me, nice looking, loads of sizes, great price...good stuff

ncn

benpinnick wrote:

January

Cool! Thanks for the answer, just wondering if I can wait that long haha!

rockmonkeysc

benpinnick wrote:

29lbs but that's going to be fairly burly.

Thats about the same as my XL Mega TR with a solid build.

paul.skibum

benpinnick wrote:

Not quite as prototype as you may have thought....

Slightly unrelated note, how are those Raceface Wheels? I have an opportunity to buy RF gear cheap through RF themselves and was considering the wheelset.

Qui3tman

More details on the 2015 Nukeproofs:

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/nukeproof- ... -look.html

Northwind

This is all good for Yeti, they were in a pretty weird position- retired the SB66 and launched the supposedly better 650b version, then discovered absolutely none of their pros were prepared to ride it and insisted on using the old bike. How do you sell a bike that you can't even get your contracted riders to ride for free?

Angus Young wrote:

Interesting. I've just measured my daughter and she's got 7" to go.

<waggles eyebrows>

lawman

No carbon from Nukeproof, bit of a shame but the bikes all look very well specced as always and the colours look slightly better than better than before. Like the Bird still a little heavy for my liking, but I suppose if you're not overly bothered about that they'll be great fun to ride!

rockmonkeysc

I'm not sure carbon is the right way to go for Nukeproof (or any similar brands) they will be competing against the premium brands.
Obviously it won't be carbon Nukeproof against canbon Santa Cruz but they will be up against the premium brand aluminium bikes and im not entirely sure they will win enough sales once they get over £3.5k