Tour de France Stage 5 Ypres-Arenberg *Spoiler*

24567…57

Comments

  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    iainf72 wrote:
    Chinny not too happy about the cobbles being in, especially if it rains. There are reports there has been so much rain the soil between the cobbles has washed out and they're even worse than usual.

    Maybe Chinny will do his patron thing and they'll just cruise in...

    Nahhhh...

    Except he isn't patron any more. Besides, I want to see attacking racing, not a procession.
  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    Yeah ok bla bla.

    Lets just remember Cheese, Customs, Geology, Wine and erm what else...

    Profile, yes where's the profile...
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,820
    Am I right in thinking the first sector tomorrow will be the left turn at the cafe on the Crossroad of Trees?
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Interesting tidbit from Inrng - You're not allowed to have people waiting with wheels and stuff like that. Team mates or cars only for support.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Iain I cant see anything countering what he said before about not neutralising and racing 100% for the win.

    In any case what is he trying to say? Its ok to race them in the dry but in the wet it is not acceptable?
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    iainf72 wrote:
    Interesting tidbit from Inrng - You're not allowed to have people waiting with wheels and stuff like that. Team mates or cars only for support.

    This seems unnecessary.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    iainf72 wrote:
    There are reports there has been so much rain the soil between the cobbles has washed out and they're even worse than usual.

    I rode a few sections yesterday and it didn't seem that bad to me. Well, it was pretty bad, but no worse than usual.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Iain I cant see anything countering what he said before about not neutralising and racing 100% for the win.

    In any case what is he trying to say? Its ok to race them in the dry but in the wet it is not acceptable?

    He didn't say it but he did question the wisdom of it.

    If Contador ended up on the pave with a broken shoulder, people who are Contador fans will not like it. It's not like P-R where you can climb off if you don't like it.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Iain I cant see anything countering what he said before about not neutralising and racing 100% for the win.

    In any case what is he trying to say? Its ok to race them in the dry but in the wet it is not acceptable?

    People have won in the wet. The last wet PRB was 2001 and the winner is a domestique for SKY.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    frenchfighter wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Interesting tidbit from Inrng - You're not allowed to have people waiting with wheels and stuff like that. Team mates or cars only for support.

    This seems unnecessary.

    Listening to the Cycling Podcast it sounds like the teams are doing it anyway.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    iainf72 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Iain I cant see anything countering what he said before about not neutralising and racing 100% for the win.

    In any case what is he trying to say? Its ok to race them in the dry but in the wet it is not acceptable?

    He didn't say it but he did question the wisdom of it.

    If Contador ended up on the pave with a broken shoulder, people who are Contador fans will not like it. It's not like P-R where you can climb off if you don't like it.

    Not trying to sound harsh (because obviously I don't wish anyone injured), but that's racing and this is a race. They should go for it and whatever happens, happens.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    TMR wrote:

    Not trying to sound harsh (because obviously I don't wish anyone injured), but that's racing and this is a race. They should go for it and whatever happens, happens.

    I can see both sides of the argument.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    Am I right in thinking the first sector tomorrow will be the left turn at the cafe on the Crossroad of Trees?

    No, the route is going in the opposite direction. They go from Gruson towards the café at the Carrefour de L'Arbre.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    edited July 2014
    TMR wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Iain I cant see anything countering what he said before about not neutralising and racing 100% for the win.

    In any case what is he trying to say? Its ok to race them in the dry but in the wet it is not acceptable?

    People have won in the wet. The last wet PRB was 2001 and the winner is a domestique for SKY.
    By domestique you actually mean DS, don't you.

    Here he is chatting about tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYLjSceqgGc
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    Cheese

    2po1tgi.jpg

    BOULETTE D'AVESNES

    Crushed Maroilles kneaded again with fine herbs, parsley and pepper, which is hand-shaped to a pyramid. This subtle combination gives a particulary aromatic and flavoursome cheese. :o
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    RideOnTime wrote:
    Yeah ok bla bla.

    Lets just remember Cheese, Customs, Geology, Wine and erm what else...

    Profile, yes where's the profile...

    +++++
    ++++++
    ++++++
    +++++----++++++---+++++--++++++
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    RichN95 wrote:
    TMR wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Iain I cant see anything countering what he said before about not neutralising and racing 100% for the win.

    In any case what is he trying to say? Its ok to race them in the dry but in the wet it is not acceptable?

    People have won in the wet. The last wet PRB was 2001 and the winner is a domestique for SKY.
    By domestique actually mean DS, don't you.

    Here he is chatting about tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYLjSceqgGc

    Also it rained in 2002.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    RideOnTime wrote:
    Cheese

    2po1tgi.jpg

    BOULETTE D'AVESNES

    Crushed Maroilles kneaded again with fine herbs, parsley and pepper, which is hand-shaped to a pyramid. This subtle combination gives a particulary aromatic and flavoursome cheese. :o

    Ooo nice.
    RichN95 wrote:
    RideOnTime wrote:
    Yeah ok bla bla.

    Lets just remember Cheese, Customs, Geology, Wine and erm what else...

    Profile, yes where's the profile...

    +++++
    ++++++
    ++++++
    +++++----++++++---+++++--++++++

    That's how they knead the maroilles. They lay it on the pave and cycle over it.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    RichN95 wrote:
    TMR wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Iain I cant see anything countering what he said before about not neutralising and racing 100% for the win.

    In any case what is he trying to say? Its ok to race them in the dry but in the wet it is not acceptable?

    People have won in the wet. The last wet PRB was 2001 and the winner is a domestique for SKY.
    By domestique you actually mean DS, don't you.

    Here he is chatting about tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYLjSceqgGc

    I already posted that in the right thread :P

    And yes, you're right and I am a n00b :mrgreen:
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    iainf72 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Iain I cant see anything countering what he said before about not neutralising and racing 100% for the win.

    In any case what is he trying to say? Its ok to race them in the dry but in the wet it is not acceptable?

    He didn't say it but he did question the wisdom of it.

    If Contador ended up on the pave with a broken shoulder, people who are Contador fans will not like it. It's not like P-R where you can climb off if you don't like it.

    Oh that's fine - personally I think a few cobbles are fine but a lot of them and the risk of rain is too much for a Grand Tour. I do not want any rider falling foul of the GC due to an issue tomorrow.

    I would much prefer to see stage race specialists ride proper stage races and cobbled specialists race the cobbles rather than some GC riders dicing with luck and looking altogether uncomfortable.

    That being said, the wet 'Italian Roubiax' stage Evans won was up there in all time great days of racing and I really enjoyed the lesser cobbled stage in the Tour.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    iainf72 wrote:
    TMR wrote:

    Not trying to sound harsh (because obviously I don't wish anyone injured), but that's racing and this is a race. They should go for it and whatever happens, happens.

    I can see both sides of the argument.

    To be fair, so can I. I hope they race though.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Oh that's fine - personally I think a few cobbles are fine but a lot of them and the risk of rain is too much for a Grand Tour. I do not want any rider falling foul of the GC due to an issue tomorrow.

    How is it any different to any other crash? Look at 2011 Wiggins for example.
  • type:epyt
    type:epyt Posts: 766
    I think for a GT the challenge should be more Flanders than P-R. The course still allows for a selection but is just a bit less 'gimmicky' with more types of rider having a chance to do something. Saying that, Contador and Andy done brilliantly last time.
    Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Meh. If you don't like it, go ride the Giro!
  • type:epyt
    type:epyt Posts: 766
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Meh. If you don't like it, go ride the Giro!

    Can't argue with that really. The parcours was announced last year.
    Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.
  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    edited July 2014
    cobbles + rain + dodgy wrist = Skyfall :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

    Has anyone not seen my piccy of the Princess of Cambridge - in the green jersey (dress :o ). I just go that :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

    333ddmb.jpg
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    type:epyt wrote:
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Meh. If you don't like it, go ride the Giro!

    Can't argue with that really. The parcours was announced last year.

    Exactly.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,252
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Meh. If you don't like it, go ride the Giro!
    Riding over slippery 200 year old roads in the rain v riding through mountain ranges in a blizzard.

    Not much of a choice really.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    ...have you ever thought about riding on the track?
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,430
    I've a funny feeling Garmin are going to do something tomorrow.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!

Categories