Dauphine *spoilers*

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  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    ddraver wrote:
    Is that a genuine question? Seriously, it's not always easy to tell...

    Yes mate, was working all day - no time to read the forums or see the news. I have no idea how close it was - just asking.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    ok,

    He was right on Froome's wheel - same time (but there were 10, 8 and 6 second bonuses). It's clear to most unbiased watchers that Contador had a proper dig to get round Froome in the last 200m but Froome not only held him off but actually gapped him a little (naff all but...).

    Given that Bertie wheelsucked Froome the whole way up the climb (which given the GC situation is fair enough), it's a hell of a show of strength from Froome

    It is a little hard to understand how bertie thinks his saddle would ve made enough difference to matter...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    Sounds like it is worth a watch then. I'll enjoy that on the train in tomorrow. Thanks.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    TMR wrote:
    Sounds like it is worth a watch then. I'll enjoy that on the train in tomorrow. Thanks.

    It's a good stage but nothing exceptional. Don't waste time watching anything bar the last 10km.

    On a separate note, forgot about Kirby.

    Still absolutely awful. Uses the weirdest analogies to describe the most odd/irrelevant/wrong ideas.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    The only saving grace is that Brian Smith is the best colour commentator. In my opinion.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    RichN95 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Will be interesting to see if Porte rides himself out of a Tour place this week. What then Sky?
    Unless he gets injured, Porte is a certainty for the Tour.

    Which is ridiculous if he's going to sit up half way up a climb having done no work. He did a great job last year and certainly stopped Froome losing time on Alpe D'Huez but his role is to still be there towards the end to do that sort of thing. No point having him there to pull on the flat or lower slopes as Sky already have some big engines for that.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Last year Porte was able to drop pretty much every single rider bad his best monaco mate. Very odd that this year he cant do anything. If he rocks up at the Tour (current form certainly is a no no) and murders the bunch then that is unacceptable.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    You just cant really back a face like this can you?
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    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Peraud lost a packet today...
    Konig did well again as did Elissonde.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
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    Contador is the Greatest
  • fleshtuxedo
    fleshtuxedo Posts: 1,858
    Pross wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Will be interesting to see if Porte rides himself out of a Tour place this week. What then Sky?
    Unless he gets injured, Porte is a certainty for the Tour.

    Which is ridiculous if he's going to sit up half way up a climb having done no work. He did a great job last year and certainly stopped Froome losing time on Alpe D'Huez but his role is to still be there towards the end to do that sort of thing. No point having him there to pull on the flat or lower slopes as Sky already have some big engines for that.

    Absolutely. Rich, why do you say Porte is a certainty for the Tour? Makes no sense to me that the 2014 Porte is selected unless he can prove some form on the climbs.
  • fleshtuxedo
    fleshtuxedo Posts: 1,858
    You just cant really back a face like this can you?
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    Weirder and weirder

    FF, I mean, not Froome's face
  • Sjaak
    Sjaak Posts: 99
    “Today was hard with a high tempo all day and some difficult roads as well but that’s okay because this was really good training for next month and the Tour. That’s why we’re here, no? Of course if we could have taken a stage win today we would but at the moment Chris is very strong so congrats to him. Now we’ll take it day by day and we’ll see how it goes in the final,” Contador told Cyclingnews at the summit, as he leant against the railings.

    “The last kilometre was the hardest but the climb was okay. I want to take it day by day. There was a small problem with my bike when I was climbing out of the saddle but I’m very happy with the last two days and I think the coming days will be even better.”

    Note that if Contador was on the limit he would not have been in such a high gear.

    The Inner Ring June 10, 2014 at 9:27 am
    Contador later said his heart rate was at 203.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Kwiatek has never trained at altitude and does not own an oxygen tent.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Contador:
    "I was much better than expected. The tactic was to focus on Froome. I didn't think about the victory. On the other hand, I was not aware that we were battling for the stage victory. During the ascent I did not realize that we had caught all escapees.

    "In any case, it was impossible to pass him. He is very strong at the moment, better than me. And in the time trial, one can only congratulate him. But I'm very happy with how I performed on the climb and with my condition.

    'It's always important [to be able to respond to his attacks]. The first was very strong and very long. But I had good legs and that made it more simple.

    "I am sorry to repeat myself, but I want to take it day by day. For the weekend I guess I have to bring my heart rate down. Today I reached 203 on the climb.

    "I was not surprised that Kelderman, Talansky, Van den Broeck and Nibali were close to us. They are all very good bike riders."

    "Sky had done hard work all day to keep the break under control and they rode really fast," he said. "In the end, they paid for that effort."

    Nibali:
    "I'm not surprised by Froome's performance," he told Cyclismactu. "He was already very strong in the Tour de Romandie, and it is normal that he gets better as we get close to the Tour de France. I think he really wanted to show his superiority today and he wanted to take a solo win. With Alberto Contador, they are a level above the rest. I just spoke to Alberto. He seems to be very strong and I think, for his part, he was really determined to show Froome that he could follow him.

    "Personally I know I'm not 100%. So I'm not so surprised by my performance. I had a difficult winter and some physical problems. But my training at altitude in May showed me that I have come back to a good level. When Froome launched his first attack, my director told me to follow him. But that's not what I did because I knew I could not. So I preferred to ride at my own pace."
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Q: What will be the best stage to test yourself in during Dauphiné?
    AC: Stage 7, because the climbs are like in the Tour de France, with 8 percent gradients and long climbs. This is where it gets really challenging in the Tour and it’s on these percentages where I’ll see my fitness.
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  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    Last year Porte was able to drop pretty much every single rider bad his best monaco mate. Very odd that this year he cant do anything. If he rocks up at the Tour (current form certainly is a no no) and murders the bunch then that is unacceptable.

    it's as if him and Contador have swapped places....

    on a more serious note, those sunglasses do not do Contador justice. he needs to sign a personal sponsorship deal with Oakley
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Crozza wrote:
    Last year Porte was able to drop pretty much every single rider bad his best monaco mate. Very odd that this year he cant do anything. If he rocks up at the Tour (current form certainly is a no no) and murders the bunch then that is unacceptable.

    it's as if him and Contador have swapped places....

    on a more serious note, those sunglasses do not do Contador justice. he needs to sign a personal sponsorship deal with Oakley

    Contador's palmares have already cemented him as best stage race rider of his generation. Anything else is a bonus.

    So you want him to get Oakleys and look like every other rider?
    Contador is the Greatest
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Absolutely. Rich, why do you say Porte is a certainty for the Tour? Makes no sense to me that the 2014 Porte is selected unless he can prove some form on the climbs.
    Because he's Froome's sidekick. That's how these things work.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    RichN95 wrote:
    Absolutely. Rich, why do you say Porte is a certainty for the Tour? Makes no sense to me that the 2014 Porte is selected unless he can prove some form on the climbs.
    Because he's Froome's sidekick. That's how these things work.
    indeed
  • ivanoile
    ivanoile Posts: 202
    Can someone explain why Tinkoff Saxo is using Roval wheels?Didn't they said on the beginning of the season that Zipp's wheels are better?
  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    Contador's palmares have already cemented him as best stage race rider of his generation. Anything else is a bonus.

    So you want him to get Oakleys and look like every other rider?

    my point was that you make the comment that Porte has seemingly gone from hero to zero. Contador has done the reverse

    are we still in his generation? I hope so - I think the sport could use a clash of the titans. I was never convinced that Schleck could be that rival to AC, because of his weak TT and refusal to spend any time improving it. A fit again Contador vs Froome (and eventually Quintana) will be something to savour

    AC rides a specialized, with s-works shoes and helmet already - along with countless others. is it the sunglasses that set him apart? the current ones look naff
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    ivanoile wrote:
    Can someone explain why Tinkoff Saxo is using Roval wheels?Didn't they said on the beginning of the season that Zipp's wheels are better?

    Using both according to this

    http://eltiodelmazo.com/2014/01/24/spec ... r-en-2014/
  • fleshtuxedo
    fleshtuxedo Posts: 1,858
    RichN95 wrote:
    Absolutely. Rich, why do you say Porte is a certainty for the Tour? Makes no sense to me that the 2014 Porte is selected unless he can prove some form on the climbs.
    Because he's Froome's sidekick. That's how these things work.

    But he's nowhere near Froome's side when it matters. What he did last year earns him some patience, but surely he has to prove himself at some level this week?
  • Crampeur
    Crampeur Posts: 1,065
    Peraud lost a packet today...
    Konig did well again as did Elissonde.

    I think Peraud was involved in a crash earlier on the climb, which might be why.
    Agreed, Elissonde in particular looked very strong, pulling that group back. Hope he can develop from here.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Ah ok, would have thought it unlikely he would come that far back from form.

    --

    Last 20km:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIAWEAnzuAg
    Contador is the Greatest
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    Crozza wrote:
    Last year Porte was able to drop pretty much every single rider bad his best monaco mate. Very odd that this year he cant do anything. If he rocks up at the Tour (current form certainly is a no no) and murders the bunch then that is unacceptable.

    it's as if him and Contador have swapped places....

    on a more serious note, those sunglasses do not do Contador justice. he needs to sign a personal sponsorship deal with Oakley

    Contador's palmares have already cemented him as best stage race rider of his generation. Anything else is a bonus.

    So you want him to get Oakleys and look like every other rider?

    And.....anyone who knows and cares about cycling knows how and why, and also why he has done little, by comparison, since his ban.

    Regarding his gearing pointing to him being well in control on the climb? Rubbish. He has never spun up a climb he tends to ride bigger gears and climb in and out of the saddle. Another reason? he was so knackered he had no idea what gear he was in.
    FF and Bertie seem to be one of a kind, can never accept defeat with good grace and sportsmanship. :D
  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    mike6 wrote:
    FF and Bertie seem to be one of a kind, can never accept defeat with good grace and sportsmanship. :D
    Contador wrote:
    "In any case, it was impossible to pass him. He is very strong at the moment, better than me. And in the time trial, one can only congratulate him"
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    adr82 wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Absolutely. Rich, why do you say Porte is a certainty for the Tour? Makes no sense to me that the 2014 Porte is selected unless he can prove some form on the climbs.
    Because he's Froome's sidekick. That's how these things work.
    indeed

    I think this is more apt judging by recent events:

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    Although maybe not Porte seems to be leading. He should be slipping out the back leaving The Lone Ranger to venture on alone.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    Contador likes the Wi FLi . He has said he prefers to ride in his big ring
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    We do have some other riders racing and lets hope they can make some serious impact.

    Just looked on over the way and 2 pages on asthma pumps :lol: