Giro 2014 - Stage 16: Val Martello *Spoilers*

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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    116 are in so far. Hopefully the site just hasn't updated the other 50 or so yet.
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    edited May 2014
    Why would anyone think stacks of people wouldn't make the cut off? Getting lost in the dramatic language of the commentary I suppose.

    I expect a fair few wouldn't, but not half of them.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    116 in the time limit, the rest not.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    117 Julien Vermote BEL OPQ 5:26:42 44:07
    118 DE HAES Kenny BEL LTB 5:26:42 44:07
    119 Tom Veelers NED GIA 5:26:42 44:07
    120 MALACARNE Davide ITA EUC 5:26:42 44:07
    121 Elia Viviani ITA CAN 5:26:42 44:07
    122 SADDLE Emanuele ITA AND 5:26:42 44:07
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    If the 40 mins is correct, then Wellens, Poels, Arrendondo are all outside it.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Bouhanni, Nizzolo, Viviani, Arredondo or Wellens not listed yet (Mountains and Sprint)
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Gruppetto in at 39:50!

    Hahaha! Eisel and Pettachi doing the calcs so well presumably.

    :D

    Make that Eisel as Petacchi still isnt in.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    I don't know where the 40 minutes came from.

    45 according to some on twitter, which means everyone made it.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Bouhanni now listed as inside the 40mins.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    @daniellloyd1 1h
    Away from the stage/GC fight. Time limit today will be around 40 minutes, no easy task. #Giro
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Turfle wrote:
    I don't know where the 40 minutes came from.
    BeIN Sports commentators said it was 40 minutes during the race. Could have been wrong, of course.

    Ta. Let's hope it's 45!
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    I see 160 finishers so far with one DNS (EBH). On Sunday 168 finished.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • knedlicky
    knedlicky Posts: 3,097
    If there are a lot outside the time limit, the organisers sometimes don't eliminate them, but instead impose a ‘fine’ of so many points to each rider concerned.

    If the cut-off was 40 mins, that could strengthen Bouhanni’s hold on his jersey (he finished within 40 mins, Nizzolo and Viviani only within 45 mins).

    7 DNFs apparently – Courteille, Colli, Petacchi, Finetto, Thurau, Dekker, Scarponi
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,661
    terrible day for OPQS...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,160
    Turfle wrote:
    I don't know where the 40 minutes came from.

    45 according to some on twitter, which means everyone made it.

    And as we know, twitter is the definitive source of all information.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,710
    Diego Ulissi 159th and in the 44 minute bunch.
    I think it's fairly safe to say that he's cracked.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,710
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    Turfle wrote:
    I don't know where the 40 minutes came from.

    45 according to some on twitter, which means everyone made it.

    And as we know, twitter is the definitive source of all information.

    This.
    Twitter: About as reliable as Cadel's third week in GTs.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,160
    5 Colombians in the top 16.

    And another who would have been in contention not even racing. I know the cycling is massive there and Colombians have been around for a while, but any reason that they are so prominent now (aside from COL, who presumably benefit from being Italy based)?
    [I'm not talking physiology or interested in insinuations]
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Twitter was correct on this occasion!
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Well well well. Haven't seen the stage but can't wait for the highlights.

    Controversy, bravery, talent and a tiny Columbian being chased by a gangly Canadian up an Italian mountain.

    I could tell Quintana was finding his climbing legs the last few days and he grabbed the chance with both hands. You'd have to say the battle is now for the podium unless he comes down with another infection.

    Does the Rai full coverage video work for anyone else? It just seems frozen at the moment.
  • Mad_Malx wrote:
    5 Colombians in the top 16.

    And another who would have been in contention not even racing. I know the cycling is massive there and Colombians have been around for a while, but any reason that they are so prominent now (aside from COL, who presumably benefit from being Italy based)?
    [I'm not talking physiology or interested in insinuations]
    http://www.cyclinginquisition.com/2013/ ... y-now.html
    1968, human content on bitumen.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,160
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    5 Colombians in the top 16.

    And another who would have been in contention not even racing. I know the cycling is massive there and Colombians have been around for a while, but any reason that they are so prominent now (aside from COL, who presumably benefit from being Italy based)?
    [I'm not talking physiology or interested in insinuations]
    http://www.cyclinginquisition.com/2013/ ... y-now.html

    Ha! perfect. Thanks
  • mechanism
    mechanism Posts: 891
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    What do you suppose this red flag in front of Quintana on the first KM of the Stelvio descent was all about

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    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,661
    ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    It's ok - Fits with what RCS said - they were just alerting the riders to dangerous conditions (in case they didn't notice)

    http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/05/ ... aos_329760
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    "At no time was there an attack on the descent, and we heard nothing of neutralisation, neither from the race organisation nor from the team car," Quintana said in a statement. "I don't understand why there is controversy. Additionally, I made the most difference on the final climb to Val Martello."

    Does a red flag have any definitive meaning in road cycling (as in Formula 1)? Or could it mean anything from caution, imminent danger, neutralised racing?

    Either way it's a complete shambles.
  • suspectdevice
    suspectdevice Posts: 263
    José Been @TourDeJose
    Kelderman:"Just like many others I thought descent was neutralized. Many were waiting on top. You didn't see anything & Quintana rode away."

    Jos van Emden
    @josvanemden
    We shouldn't have raced in the first place but letting someone win who attacks in a neutral part!!!!By the way he has a fever so

    Daniel Aranda Rubio
    @Daniaruae
    @josvanemden @TourDeJose I agree with u, stage should be cancel, but there were no neutral part, ur DS fault not Quintana.


    @ProCyclingStats Rai shoeed Androni team car during that moment and there was nothing like a neutralization announcement

    Quite a few of these going around twitter, just a case of sour grapes?

    Don't think Quintana has made many friends today.....

    Sounds like coincidental confusion??

    More info here http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/05/ ... aos_329760
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    What a bonkers day. Hats off to the little Q man. He was super. Evans was riding with only one good leg apparently.
    Ryder looked like he could have done with another gear on the last climb, still a great ride and who knows if Garmin had not crashed in the TT. Uran and Evans may as well pack their bags and lets hope that we get someone trying a long attack and putting Quintana under pressure. Rolland has been fantastic. Splendid :lol:
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,710
    The brewing controversy also confirmed the increasing influence of Twitter. More and more fans and journalists are using the social media as an information source, but the real-time nature of Twitter can also result in blunders. In the real-time events unfolding on the road, two-way radio remains the only reliable information source for the race caravan.

    Says it all, really.
    Hard luck if your DS doesn't know which one to follow.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.