Froome on Wiggins and more

tuneskyline

I used to hang out and party with a nice group of South Africans staying in West London. Had a brilliant time and they were really cool. 2 of the best years of my life.

dish_dash

TheBigBean wrote:

For the kids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v439zTOJVho

Ah... thanks BB

Worth noting that the South African accent is actually suprisingly varied. That song picks up on the accent of a minority.

tailwindhome

Cillian Kelly ‏@irishpeloton · 23m
Only twice in the last 40 years have two former Tour winners ridden the Tour de France on the same team. Two pointedly different stories.

TheBigBean

Is this like the off-season trivia? Contador / Armstrong is one.

RichN95.

TailWindHome wrote:

Cillian Kelly ‏@irishpeloton · 23m
Only twice in the last 40 years have two former Tour winners ridden the Tour de France on the same team. Two pointedly different stories.

I would say that 1998 is more relevant as Ullrich was the clear leader and Riis' s form had started to wane, while in 2009 Armstrong had been away as the champion and expected to pick up where he had left off

FoldingJoe

dish_dash wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

I want to know about BradleyOnTheBusGate.

Didn't he keep leaving used capsules in the Nespresso machine on the bus...

They need Terry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww86iaucd2A

Turfle

South Africa, Kenya, it's all the same I guess.

No_Ta_Doctor

Personally I'd put Wiggins in, as a protected rider. He's clearly their second best GT rider on palmares and form at the moment. If he works for Froome, then all is well. If he gains time early on then deal with that when it comes to it - if Froome has enough of his "own" riders about then it's not going to become an issue unless Brailsford himself changes the pecking order. And if the worst came to the worst and the team was split between two GC contenders they'd probably still win the race and dominate headlines for a couple of weeks.

No_Ta_Doctor

And just out of interest, does anyone remember what Froome said during the 2012 Tour? I seem to remember it as being the usual "I'm here to work for Brad" guff, all the way through, but I've got no references...

Paging RR...

iainf72

dish_dash wrote:

Worth noting that the South African accent is actually suprisingly varied. That song picks up on the accent of a minority.

Yeah, 11 official languages, funny there would be different languages. It always amuses me how "south african" has become shorthand for white south african or afrikaaner. Mandela, Tutu, Steve Biko etc are South African too

[There's some decent comedy accents on the new Die Antwoord album for those who are interested]

Macaloon

No tA Doctor wrote:

Personally I'd put Wiggins in, as a protected rider. He's clearly their second best GT rider on palmares and form at the moment. If he works for Froome, then all is well. If he gains time early on then deal with that when it comes to it - if Froome has enough of his "own" riders about then it's not going to become an issue unless Brailsford himself changes the pecking order. And if the worst came to the worst and the team was split between two GC contenders they'd probably still win the race and dominate headlines for a couple of weeks.

I think the bigger story is the team's failure to identify, recruit, then develop top talent. The stage race squad was broken on arrival at TdF2013 and hasn't been fixed yet. It didn't show up as a GC participant at the Giro.

Other than Wiggins confirming his 2009 performance, and Thomas' & Stannard's steady Classics improvement, it's hard to think of performers that didn't come as a surprise (Froome, JTL only joking, Swifty's MSR(?)), or seem to have reached their ceiling (Porte, Kennaugh, Henao 2013, Monster formerly known as Kiryienka).

Obviously they'll now go on to crush the Dauphine & Tour but if Kerrison's numbers can only compete for one GT a season, he might want recalibrating.

iainf72

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2 ... CMP=twt_gu

Good summary

greasedscotsman

RichN95 wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

Cillian Kelly ‏@irishpeloton · 23m
Only twice in the last 40 years have two former Tour winners ridden the Tour de France on the same team. Two pointedly different stories.

I would say that 1998 is more relevant as Ullrich was the clear leader and Riis' s form had started to wane, while in 2009 Armstrong had been away as the champion and expected to pick up where he had left off

Delgado and Indurain both road the TdF for Banesto in 92' and 93'. Isn't that 4?

RichN95.

greasedscotsman wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

Cillian Kelly ‏@irishpeloton · 23m
Only twice in the last 40 years have two former Tour winners ridden the Tour de France on the same team. Two pointedly different stories.

I would say that 1998 is more relevant as Ullrich was the clear leader and Riis' s form had started to wane, while in 2009 Armstrong had been away as the champion and expected to pick up where he had left off

Delgado and Indurain both road the TdF for Banesto in 92' and 93'. Isn't that 4?

It would appear so.

Elfed

http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/wiggi ... 15_season/

tailwindhome

RichN95 wrote:

greasedscotsman wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

TailWindHome wrote:

Cillian Kelly ‏@irishpeloton · 23m
Only twice in the last 40 years have two former Tour winners ridden the Tour de France on the same team. Two pointedly different stories.

I would say that 1998 is more relevant as Ullrich was the clear leader and Riis' s form had started to wane, while in 2009 Armstrong had been away as the champion and expected to pick up where he had left off

Delgado and Indurain both road the TdF for Banesto in 92' and 93'. Isn't that 4?

It would appear so.

Oh FFS.

And this isn't the first time either.....

Macaloon

iainf72 wrote:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/jun/03/dave-brailsford-bradley-wiggins-tour-de-france-chris-froome?CMP=twt_gu

Good summary

"putting Wiggins in the Tour of Switzerland makes sense, because it is a race he can win, and its slightly later date gives him more time to recover from body-clock disruption after the Tour of California."

Beautiful euphemism.

Macaloon

Elfed wrote:

http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/wiggins_and_team_sky_to_part_their_ways_for_2015_season/

There's some funny stuff in that. This is the best

According to Italian media, Wiggins’ return under the Garmin-Sharp wings is another option as it is not a big secret that the former Tour de France winner and Jonathan Vaughters are close friends.

mooro

not sure if this is has been posted before, not sure when it is from..



great posing. i would love to see the next few frames one of which would surely be titled 'the flounce'

RichN95.

Mooro wrote:

not sure if this is has been posted before, not sure when it is from..

2013 Tour of Oman

mooro

thanks, and impressive. tell me, was it quicker/better use of google than me, or did you just know?

Anonymous

So Sky are losing, Thomas, Wiggins and EBH?

RichN95.

Mooro wrote:

thanks, and impressive. tell me, was it quicker/better use of google than me, or did you just know?

Google image search - it's a piece of cake. You can search for other instances of the image by using it's URL

Alternatively I could have done a head-to-head on CQ Ranking to reveal it's the only race they've done together in Rapha kit.

mooro

RichN95 wrote:

Mooro wrote:

thanks, and impressive. tell me, was it quicker/better use of google than me, or did you just know?

Google image search - it's a piece of cake. You can search for other instances of the image by using it's URL

Alternatively I could have done a head-to-head on CQ Ranking to reveal it's the only race they've done together in Rapha kit.

cool, and thanks I appreciate that.

above_the_cows

iainf72 wrote:

No one done that picture of Porte in double denim with Cubans on yet?

Sorry been out on an impromptu departmental jolly, many wines have been consumed...

rick_chasey

Can we all agree that winnig a chipper doesn't say much re form?

It was hardly tough competition.

mechanism

The Wiggins/Froome/TdF question is discussed in the latest The Cycling Podcast. I won't spoil it by revealing their opinions but, as ever, its worth listening to.

iainf72

Mechanism wrote:

The Wiggins/Froome/TdF question is discussed in the latest The Cycling Podcast. I won't spoil it by revealing their opinions but, as ever, its worth listening to.

Yes, excellent work.

Richmond Racer

Wiggins was back on the Manchester track yday, under the beady eye of Uncle Shane

ContrelaMontre

iainf72 wrote:

Mechanism wrote:

The Wiggins/Froome/TdF question is discussed in the latest The Cycling Podcast. I won't spoil it by revealing their opinions but, as ever, its worth listening to.

Yes, excellent work.

[namedropping] Met Richard Moore at his book launch last night [/namedropping] and he didn't have any off the record insights to give away. Said I'd have to listen to the podcast for their take on the Wiggins selection situation.

Without trying to spoil it too much, one thing I think they've called wrong is that Sky don't do 'Plan Bs'. In 2011 they put all their eggs in the Wiggins basket and when he crashed out they had no plan B although EBH salvaged the Tour for them. But that experience was key to Cavendish's selection in 2012. Basically they picked Cavendish as an insurance policy in case Wiggo crashed or burned.