Carlton Kirby

DeVlaeminck

iantr said:

I find Kelly’s accent a barrier to understanding. Particularly the word “torty”, as in “The gap is down to torty seconds.”

Thirty? Or Forty? I still don’t know, even after all these years. Winds me up daily….

30

webboo

I have always watched Eurosport through the app on my iPad. We got a new tv last week and you watch everything through the apps. The wife put Eurosport app on it and listening to Carlton on the telly seems a bit weird. I’m not sure I can cope with him on the big screen.

Lanterne_Rogue

webboo said:

I have always watched Eurosport through the app on my iPad. We got a new tv last week and you watch everything through the apps. The wife put Eurosport app on it and listening to Carlton on the telly seems a bit weird. I’m not sure I can cope with him on the big screen.

Could be worse. Could be through a big speaker.

thejimmymethod

webboo said:

I have always watched Eurosport through the app on my iPad. We got a new tv last week and you watch everything through the apps. The wife put Eurosport app on it and listening to Carlton on the telly seems a bit weird. I’m not sure I can cope with him on the big screen.

The Eurosport app on my TV kindly defaults to Danish every time I open it

larkim

Også mig!

larkim

andyp said:

It's definitely not Moolman-Pasio or Van Der Breggen.

https://twitter.com/GoZwift/status/1414862335034884102

orraloon

DeVlaeminck said:

iantr said:

I find Kelly’s accent a barrier to understanding. Particularly the word “torty”, as in “The gap is down to torty seconds.”

Thirty? Or Forty? I still don’t know, even after all these years. Winds me up daily….

30

Firtay. HTH.

kingstongraham

I think you'll find that it is " a number of seconds".

womack

I like it when Sean tells us who came turd.

salsiccia1

I remember a few years ago in the Giro, when talking about riders not pulling their weight, he said something like 'you need to give them a good fooking drilling' LOL

Pross

Watching the ITV4 highlights. How can anyone sit through a full stage of that? Millar and Ned have been to the Kirby school of 'more is more' when it comes to talking. OK they might not make as many mistakes but it is still mainly drivel. I liked Ned in his old role but he isn't a commentator.

Millar seems to have developed a habit of predicting the tactics, getting it wrong and then saying 'yes, this is as we were saying' when he clearly wasn't.

blazing_saddles

Pross said:

Watching the ITV4 highlights. How can anyone sit through a full stage of that? Millar and Ned have been to the Kirby school of 'more is more' when it comes to talking. OK they might not make as many mistakes but it is still mainly drivel. I liked Ned in his old role but he isn't a commentator.

Millar seems to have developed a habit of predicting the tactics, getting it wrong and then saying 'yes, this is as we were saying' when he clearly wasn't.

Earlier, we even had a Turbo Durbo off Boulting.
Then Hannah Thingy commentating with Hatch came out with it, too.

Kirbisms are spreading through the cycling like the Delta variant.

kingstongraham

"And they've all been 'dealt a' tough hand today" etc

daniel_b

Watching the olympic road race on replay just now on GCN+, commentary was going well with smithy and stephens, when inexplicably at 5km to go, we switched to an apparent aussie pairing.

The lady whose name escapes me who used to race and then managed the wiggle team, ah was it Rochelle Gilmore? And then an antipodean bloke, who appeared to be effectively an aussie version of kirby - it was pretty painful.

bobmcstuff

daniel_b said:

Watching the olympic road race on replay just now on GCN+, commentary was going well with smithy and stephens, when inexplicably at 5km to go, we switched to an apparent aussie pairing.

The lady whose name escapes me who used to race and then managed the wiggle team, ah was it Rochelle Gilmore? And then an antipodean bloke, who appeared to be effectively an aussie version of kirby - it was pretty painful.

Apparently there were technical issues on the UK feed (according to GCN twitter).

I assumed I had pressed something by accident as I was on my phone so spent a while turning captions on and off etc....

daniel_b

bobmcstuff said:

daniel_b said:

Watching the olympic road race on replay just now on GCN+, commentary was going well with smithy and stephens, when inexplicably at 5km to go, we switched to an apparent aussie pairing.

The lady whose name escapes me who used to race and then managed the wiggle team, ah was it Rochelle Gilmore? And then an antipodean bloke, who appeared to be effectively an aussie version of kirby - it was pretty painful.

Apparently there were technical issues on the UK feed (according to GCN twitter).

I assumed I had pressed something by accident as I was on my phone so spent a while turning captions on and off etc....

That's weird it must have been instant then, as 1 second stephens was talking, the next thing aussie kirby was on.
I too assumes some automatic failover had happened, or someone had pressed the wrong button.

I wonder if they are trying to make it sound like it was intended when it was not.

stage_hunter

bobmcstuff said:

daniel_b said:

Watching the olympic road race on replay just now on GCN+, commentary was going well with smithy and stephens, when inexplicably at 5km to go, we switched to an apparent aussie pairing.

The lady whose name escapes me who used to race and then managed the wiggle team, ah was it Rochelle Gilmore? And then an antipodean bloke, who appeared to be effectively an aussie version of kirby - it was pretty painful.

Apparently there were technical issues on the UK feed (according to GCN twitter).

I assumed I had pressed something by accident as I was on my phone so spent a while turning captions on and off etc....

Given that Eurosport still had Stephens and Smith I’m calling bullshit on the GCN explanation.

GCN seem to have more technical issues with sound and pictures than Geraint Thomas has crashes.

takethehighroad

For the anti Rob Hatch fans of incorrect pronunciations.

Graham Willgoss on the Floyd Landis Recycle podcast pronounces nearly all names incorrectly.

La Tosuré, Patrick Hagland and John Lelangue pronounced Lay-Long-You

stage_hunter

daniel_b said:

Watching the olympic road race on replay just now on GCN+, commentary was going well with smithy and stephens, when inexplicably at 5km to go, we switched to an apparent aussie pairing.

The lady whose name escapes me who used to race and then managed the wiggle team, ah was it Rochelle Gilmore? And then an antipodean bloke, who appeared to be effectively an aussie version of kirby - it was pretty painful.

What was especially strange was reference to a stage in the Giro that he won, rather than him actually winning the Giro. Very odd.

daniel_b

Tour de l'Ain - Blythe is back!
And some chap called Jez Cox I think he said.

Like his voice, sounds quite commentatorish, but so far seems quite calm, factual and devoid of puns, will be interested to see how he pans out, not heard him before.

I was not that impressed with Stephens commentary on the men's TT t'uther day.
He made a fair few mistakes, one of them being when WVA was coming into the finish, it had the fastest time up on the screen, then WVA's running time, and then iirc the time of the person who was 5th, showing that he was potentially going to finish 4th, but Stephens called it as him being in 2nd place.

Also he said, and I hesitate to use the phrase, but he mentioned about a rider taking their last toot on their bidon

Pross

daniel_b said:

Tour de l'Ain - Blythe is back!
And some chap called Jez Cox I think he said.

Like his voice, sounds quite commentatorish, but so far seems quite calm, factual and devoid of puns, will be interested to see how he pans out, not heard him before.

I was not that impressed with Stephens commentary on the men's TT t'uther day.
He made a fair few mistakes, one of them being when WVA was coming into the finish, it had the fastest time up on the screen, then WVA's running time, and then iirc the time of the person who was 5th, showing that he was potentially going to finish 4th, but Stephens called it as him being in 2nd place.

Also he said, and I hesitate to use the phrase, but he mentioned about a rider taking their last toot on their bidon

Is Jez Cox the one who has been covering a lot of the women's races?

webboo

No isn’t that Marty Mccrosan the guy who is the commentator on cyclocross.

daniel_b

webboo said:

No isn’t that Marty Mccrosan the guy who is the commentator on cyclocross.

I don't really like his commentary style I have to be honest.

Early days for Jez, but so far, pretty reasonable - be good to see how he handles a sprint finish.
Think he said his wife is an ex pro racer.

webboo

daniel_b said:

webboo said:

No isn’t that Marty Mccrosan the guy who is the commentator on cyclocross.

I don't really like his commentary style I have to be honest.

Early days for Jez, but so far, pretty reasonable - be good to see how he handles a sprint finish.
Think he said his wife is an ex pro racer.

Watch the finish of today’s Tour de l’Ain in that case.

DeVlaeminck

My problem with Stephens is his use of "flowery" language and words he thinks make him sound intelligent. The one that sticks in my mind from the TT is the "aural aesthetic" of deep section wheels - FFS just say you like the noise they make.

A good commentator is acting but makes it sound natural - Stephens it's obvious he's putting on an act ... he is trying too hard.

daniel_b

webboo said:

daniel_b said:

webboo said:

No isn’t that Marty Mccrosan the guy who is the commentator on cyclocross.

I don't really like his commentary style I have to be honest.

Early days for Jez, but so far, pretty reasonable - be good to see how he handles a sprint finish.
Think he said his wife is an ex pro racer.

Watch the finish of today’s Tour de l’Ain in that case.

I just did, I thought it was pretty good finale, riders indentified correctly as far as I could tell, no huge screaming in either the sprint or the crash that happened a few miles out.
He did mis-identify a rider earlier in the stage, but corrected himself I think.

Him and Blythe working pretty well, not the same natural sounding banter and 'mates enjoying cycling' as we had with blythe, lloyd, hatch and kelly during the Giro, but I wonder if he is concentrating on trying to be a serious commentator a bit too much, maybe early days with ES (?) and he's trying to make a good impression.

DeVlaeminck said:

My problem with Stephens is his use of "flowery" language and words he thinks make him sound intelligent. The one that sticks in my mind from the TT is the "aural aesthetic" of deep section wheels - FFS just say you like the noise they make.

A good commentator is acting but makes it sound natural - Stephens it's obvious he's putting on an act ... he is trying too hard.

I prefer Stephens to ck, but for me, his position in the pecking order, in terms of commentating quality, is below the 5 I mentioned above.
I used to really like Stephens, but that was, it would appear, mainly in contrast to ck who I heard a lot of - everything is relative!

womack

Came across Jez Cox on the tour of Slovenia or Hungary recently.

Liked him a lot, quite humble, open to correction. Was he a tri person?

yorkshireraw

We seem to be suffering Matt Rendell solo on San Sebastian. No idea how they couldn't get at least 1 or 2 from LLoyd, Stephens, Backstedt or even Boulting. V strange - Rendell creating absolutely zero atmosphere - it's like listening to IT brief out a new log-in security process at work......

yorkshireraw

hang on- he briefly got excited when he got to speak about a couple of Colombian riders....

yorkshireraw

obligatory Nairo mention - and he's not even riding.