Contador and Sky's trainer

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  • feltkuota
    feltkuota Posts: 333
    Coach H wrote:
    Look, will you lot please stop quoting rayjay.
    There is not much point me having him as the only person on my ignore list, to avoid his constant drivel, if you keep feeding him and putting him in your posts. :roll: (Emoticon added for ray)


    +1 for the above but without the emoticon....
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,694
    dish_dash wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    " Add another string to his bow.

    Surely barrel to his pistol...

    Boom! :)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • argyllflyer
    argyllflyer Posts: 893
    While I have nothing especially constructive to add, this thread has provided a few moments of comedy gold.

    It is laughable to think he hasn't had a conversation with SdJ about what Sky do training-wise.
  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    rayjay wrote:
    Abdoujaparov wrote:
    rayjay wrote:
    Abdoujaparov wrote:
    mfin wrote:
    rayjay wrote:
    Bit harsh IMO calling Contador a liar with no evidence.

    That's true, he's never been one for lying.

    Yep, he has lied before and is likely to lie again. His current form is suspicious imo.


    Contador confessed to eating steak, nothing else as far as I am aware.

    Even though the evidence is overwhelming that he was blood doping. The only reason CAS ruled it wasn't proven he was doing blood transfusions is because they didn't understand when you would expect to find plasticisers in someone's blood and when you wouldn't. There were experts sat in the court room who could have cleared that up in minutes, but they weren't allowed to give evidence after hours of negotiating by contador's lawyers. He got off on a technicality and is guilty as sin.






    Do you understand what you are talking about ?

    Do you know what Plasticisers are used for?

    Do you know if there is a legalised test by a sporting body for plasticisers being found in an athletes sample?

    It's all very interesting stuff if your that way inclined.
    Hello rayjay, are you back on your favourite subject? I thought you got banned for you constant boring doping discussions? Didn't last long did it?

    Mods, can we have a separate doping forum so the obsessed can pleasure themselves without dragging every thread down on this forum? Graze.
    'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    dish_dash wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    " Add another string to his bow.

    Surely barrel to his pistol...

    Aye. And what is that stupid "Pistol" thing all about anyway? It just looks childish to me.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    mike6 wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    " Add another string to his bow.

    Surely barrel to his pistol...

    Aye. And what is that stupid "Pistol" thing all about anyway? It just looks childish to me.

    He didn't quite understand what was meant by shooting up.

    Sorry! I'll get my coat.

    But in all seriousness this is actually interesting, Contador trains in a more specific, sport's science oriented manner and gets better results. Hurrah for science! :D

    As for Froome being a not quite stellar descender because occasionally he looks shaky. Well I've seen His Royal Highness King Nibbles of Descendia look shaky at times. It's one of those things that gets blown out of all reality either way, negatively in Froome's case and positively in Nibs' case.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    Ah....ACT. The voice of reason and calm. Always welcome.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    edited March 2014
    Ignore function = rayjoy. That is all.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Lol @ the Contador haters. Maybe because he came from a poor background you like to have a go at him whereas your froomie was a private school chap.

    If you see the differences between this winter and last it is not easy to see why he is performing better. Its not some revolutionary sky honed training technique. You cant teach the way Contador races and it is opposite of what sky does.

    You should have heard the French commentators singing his praises.

    Ps. Froome descends fine now even if he didnt (by his own admission) in the past. He doesn't take risks on the descents because he doesnt need to and Sky's approach is conservative and relates purely to gaining time on the mtfs and tts which is fine and effective but not a type of racing fans are looking for.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Frenchie

    Two words: training, and racing.

    Two different words.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,646
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Lol @ the Contador haters. Maybe because he came from a poor background you like to have a go at him whereas your froomie was a private school chap.

    If you see the differences between this winter and last it is not easy to see why he is performing better. Its not some revolutionary sky honed training technique. You cant teach the way Contador races and it is opposite of what sky does.

    You should have heard the French commentators singing his praises.

    Ps. Froome descends fine now even if he didnt (by his own admission) in the past. He doesn't take risks on the descents because he doesnt need to and Sky's approach is conservative and relates purely to gaining time on the mtfs and tts.

    What are you on? Seriously, you're coming off like a complete loony with your class based analysis of forum posters... It's fairly offensive as well.

    And nobody has said Contador is learning anything at all about RACING from and ex Sky DS. Please learn to read for meaning.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    If he isn't learning anything from SDJ, why would Saxo pay his salary?

    Absurd thread.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Ik ben erg verbijsterd :? :?:
    Correlation is not causation.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Frenchie

    Two words: training, and racing.

    Two different words.

    Did you enjoy Contador's show? Definitely worth watching the entire stage if you missed it due to being on the lovely promenade des anglais.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • rayjay
    rayjay Posts: 1,384
    Ignore the angry Sky fan boys :lol:

    Contador was awesome. He wins with style and flair.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    TailWindHome wrote:
    If he isn't learning anything from SDJ, why would Saxo pay his salary?

    Absurd thread.

    Strange and absurd eh. Its got your attention. The lead article is very worthy of a new thread.

    The only argument is that he hasnt been suddenly transformed due to learning revolutionary sky techniques from SDJ. He already knows how to put his race cape on while eating a banana. I could post an awesome photo of Contador in the pouring rain here.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Ik ben erg verbijsterd :? :?:

    Dat is gewoon, nee?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Lol @ the Contador haters. Maybe because he came from a poor background you like to have a go at him whereas your froomie was a private school chap.
    Yes, yes of course, social class is why many cycling fans dislike Contador.... :roll:
    You only need two tools: WD40 and Duck Tape.
    If it doesn't move and should, use the WD40.
    If it shouldn't move and does, use the tape.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Daz555 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Lol @ the Contador haters. Maybe because he came from a poor background you like to have a go at him whereas your froomie was a private school chap.
    Yes, yes of course, social class is why many cycling fans dislike Contador.... :roll:

    I think if you have a thing against sportsmen from humble origins, cycling may not be the sport for you...

    Also, I'm pretty confident that if FF had a family in Kenya, he wouldn't entrust their education to the Kenyan state system.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,646
    Daz555 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Lol @ the Contador haters. Maybe because he came from a poor background you like to have a go at him whereas your froomie was a private school chap.
    Yes, yes of course, social class is why many cycling fans dislike Contador.... :roll:

    It's not just Contador. I hate all poor people, and people who aren't currently poor, but come from a poor background. I drive round in my RR trying to run them over. Occasionally I have my butler flog them.
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Lol @ the Contador haters. Maybe because he came from a poor background you like to have a go at him whereas your froomie was a private school chap.
    Yes, yes of course, social class is why many cycling fans dislike Contador.... :roll:

    It's not just Contador. I hate all poor people, and people who aren't currently poor, but come from a poor background. I drive round in my RR trying to run them over. Occasionally I have my butler flog them.

    Then give him a sound thrashing to remind him of his place?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Ik ben erg verbijsterd :? :?:

    Dat is gewoon, nee?

    'tuurlijk!
    Correlation is not causation.
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,597
    this seems to me to back up my belief of what the main difference has been between sky and the rest. sky train to improve their riding while others just ride their bikes.

    it's like trying to win a short race by training for a sportive
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,646
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Lol @ the Contador haters. Maybe because he came from a poor background you like to have a go at him whereas your froomie was a private school chap.
    Yes, yes of course, social class is why many cycling fans dislike Contador.... :roll:

    It's not just Contador. I hate all poor people, and people who aren't currently poor, but come from a poor background. I drive round in my RR trying to run them over. Occasionally I have my butler flog them.

    Then give him a sound thrashing to remind him of his place?

    Oh dear me, no. A gentleman would never flog his butler. Any butler that was so deficient as to not already have a thorough understanding of his place would be despatched immediately. A short letter of condolence would be sent to his mother, along with the bill for the shot.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Lol @ the Contador haters. Maybe because he came from a poor background you like to have a go at him whereas your froomie was a private school chap.
    Yes, yes of course, social class is why many cycling fans dislike Contador.... :roll:

    It's not just Contador. I hate all poor people, and people who aren't currently poor, but come from a poor background. I drive round in my RR trying to run them over. Occasionally I have my butler flog them.

    Gideon? Gideon is that you?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Lol @ the Contador haters. Maybe because he came from a poor background you like to have a go at him whereas your froomie was a private school chap.
    Yes, yes of course, social class is why many cycling fans dislike Contador.... :roll:

    It's not just Contador. I hate all poor people, and people who aren't currently poor, but come from a poor background. I drive round in my RR trying to run them over. Occasionally I have my butler flog them.

    Then give him a sound thrashing to remind him of his place?

    Oh dear me, no. A gentleman would never flog his butler. Any butler that was so deficient as to not already have a thorough understanding of his place would be despatched immediately. A short letter of condolence would be sent to his mother, along with the bill for the shot.

    A ham to his widow? Capital!
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • andrewjoseph
    andrewjoseph Posts: 2,165
    I'm poor, from poor parents in a poor mining town.

    I hate bertie 'cos he's got millions and millions of money.

    no I don't. I dislike him because he's a lying cheating bastard.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,646
    Above The Cows wrote:

    Gideon? Gideon is that you?

    Most certainly not. Now if you'll excuse me, madam, I have some important papers to prepare for tomorrow and this artisanal kobe beef burger my lacky has fetched me will not eat itself.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,646
    andrewjoseph wrote:
    I'm poor, from poor parents in a poor mining town.

    I hate bertie 'cos he's got millions and millions of money.

    no I don't. I dislike him because he's a lying cheating bastard.

    I object to this. There ought to be a preventatively high fee charged for posting messages on the internet to keep riff-raff like you off it. Please have the good grace to accept your station in life and cease from bothering those of us who detest you for being poor.
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  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Lol @ the Contador haters. Maybe because he came from a poor background you like to have a go at him whereas your froomie was a private school chap.

    If you see the differences between this winter and last it is not easy to see why he is performing better. Its not some revolutionary sky honed training technique. You cant teach the way Contador races and it is opposite of what sky does.

    You should have heard the French commentators singing his praises.

    Ps. Froome descends fine now even if he didnt (by his own admission) in the past. He doesn't take risks on the descents because he doesnt need to and Sky's approach is conservative and relates purely to gaining time on the mtfs and tts which is fine and effective but not a type of racing fans are looking for.

    And here was me thinking of taking FF off my ignore list. WTF. Grow up man, you are now making yourself look really, realy foolish.

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