Tirreno-Adriatico 2014 *SPOILERS*

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    frenchfighter wrote:
    I am very interested in this subject. Please can you provide me a link to information showing the improvement of morality? I refer to comparisons in civilised nations and peoples - barbaric romans, vikings or chinese dont count! If you refer to education improvements - I would agree that it has increased...it would be hard to argue the opposite, access and availability to it at least. The uptake and use of it is open to debate.
    It depends on what you define as morality. For example, when I was growing up not only was racism and homophobia largely the norm, but it was primetime entertainment on the TV. And that was a marked improvement on my parents' generation. Neither have been eradicated, of course, but it's a different world.

    As for crime rates - they have dropped a great deal in the internet age (after a steady climb - mostly due to the population increase): http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... allen.html
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  • rayjay
    rayjay Posts: 1,384
    Richard Dawkins did a fantastic TV show last year on channel 4 called Sex death and the meaning of life.

    One part of the show looked at how the world was getting better and it is :shock:

    It was very uplifting.

    Our lives are just so tied in with the small social area's we move in and then we are bombarded with ads, news, and a lot of dumbed down TV that at times you forget there is a big old world out there to see.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,456
    And you complained about the rocks and cheese posts......
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    TailWindHome wrote:
    And you complained about the rocks and cheese posts......

    :lol::lol:

    Edit - mind you, it's getting a bit worrying when I find myself agreeing with Rayjay.
  • LutherB
    LutherB Posts: 544
    Cor blimey, Kittel stropped and chucked his bike, hardly a symptom of the decline of civilisation as we know it. He's apologised, said he loves his bike but has an intense relationship with it. I know what you're saying Frenchie and i think the way he lay down after showed he felt a bit of a twat for doing it.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Always good to tackle the ethics question early doors.
    ...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,456
    Crankbrother wrote:
    (FF has indicated he may have blocked me for not liking pretty pictures ... Please quote so I get a response ... thanks)


    Glad to help.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rayjay
    rayjay Posts: 1,384
    It could be the butterfly effect.
    If Kittel never beat up his bike then some hunter out there may have got eaten by a giant wolf beast

    Kittel's actions may have saved a life :lol:

    It's all good.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    andyp wrote:
    We're being lectured on morality by someone who works in the financial services.

    Do you believe in stereotypes? This comment may have had a little weight 25 years ago but since it holds no ground statistically speaking.
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  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Crankbrother wrote:
    (FF has indicated he may have blocked me for not liking pretty pictures ... Please quote so I get a response ... thanks)


    Glad to help.

    You quoted the wrong bit (on purpose) ... Oaf :wink:
  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    frenchfighter wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    We're being lectured on morality by someone who works in the financial services.

    Do you believe in stereotypes? This comment may have had a little weight 25 years ago but since it holds no ground statistically speaking.

    At some point in the future psychologists will be discussing these posts ... The Contadorian movement has dawned ...
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,573
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Do you believe in stereotypes? This comment may have had a little weight 25 years ago but since it holds no ground statistically speaking.

    This isn't the right forum, but if you think the financial services industry is an ethical one then you're in a minority of one.
  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    Kittel has apologised on Twitter now, I never get the urge to throw my bike as I can't afford to buy it again and it's not what I use for work but I could easily throw my work computer out of a window or put a fist through the monitor sometimes, we all lose it at times...
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    andyp wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Do you believe in stereotypes? This comment may have had a little weight 25 years ago but since it holds no ground statistically speaking.

    This isn't the right forum, but if you think the financial services industry is an ethical one then you're in a minority of one.

    Maybe you have had bad experiences. If one person out of 100 is a serial killer it doesnt incriminate the rest. You can find unscrupulous people in all industries.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    frenchfighter wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Do you believe in stereotypes? This comment may have had a little weight 25 years ago but since it holds no ground statistically speaking.

    This isn't the right forum, but if you think the financial services industry is an ethical one then you're in a minority of one.

    Maybe you have had bad experiences. If one person out of 100 is a serial killer it doesnt incriminate the rest. You can find unscrupulous people in all industries.

    Yet Saxo seem to have more than their fair share ... :wink:
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    frenchfighter wrote:
    If one person out of 100 is a serial killer it doesn't incriminate the rest.
    If one person out of 100 is a serial killer, I'm not leaving the house.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,680
    RichN95 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    If one person out of 100 is a serial killer it doesn't incriminate the rest.
    If one person out of 100 is a serial killer, I'm not leaving the house.

    Well that's GB approximately 1/600,000th safer then.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,993
    frenchfighter wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    I agree about the trash to be found on tv, internet and media in general which has greatly impacted society for the worse in terms of morality, intelligence and human qualities.
    There's always been trash. You just have easier access to it. But equally you have far easier access to all the wonderful things too.
    And every generation thinks society is getting less moral and more stupid, but long term trends across decades show exactly the opposite.

    I am very interested in this subject. Please can you provide me a link to information showing the improvement of morality? I refer to comparisons in civilised nations and peoples - barbaric romans, vikings or chinese dont count! If you refer to education improvements - I would agree that it has increased...it would be hard to argue the opposite, access and availability to it at least. The uptake and use of it is open to debate.

    I agree about it is an issue of access. Unfortunately this World gravitates to the simple and the easy option. There are countless examples of this in small aspects of life. This has a detrimental effect on society. I could wax lyrical on a debate on these matters. Will stop though as this is not the thread to do it on ; )

    What Rich said - it's just a sign you're becoming an old married man. I always like this quote
    Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.

    By Socrates approx 400 BC
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,993
    Back at the race

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/26568574
    "The peloton split because of it," Cavendish added. "Some gentlemen in the peloton gave me a hand to move up but I got to the front with 500 metres to go, before the sprint even started, and I was already on the limit."

    Sounds like a reasonable explanation
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Back at the race

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/26568574
    "The peloton split because of it," Cavendish added. "Some gentlemen in the peloton gave me a hand to move up but I got to the front with 500 metres to go, before the sprint even started, and I was already on the limit."

    Sounds like a reasonable explanation

    Don't know what race he was watching :D
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,993
    andyp wrote:
    This isn't the right forum, but if you think the financial services industry is an ethical one then you're in a minority of one.

    Can you provide an ethical industry? It's like coming up with the selfless good deed - tricky.

    Finance has its faults, but banker bashing, along with many prejudices, has been around for many years and played a large part in the rise of antisemetism - Godwin's Law.
  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    TheBigBean wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    I agree about the trash to be found on tv, internet and media in general which has greatly impacted society for the worse in terms of morality, intelligence and human qualities.
    There's always been trash. You just have easier access to it. But equally you have far easier access to all the wonderful things too.
    And every generation thinks society is getting less moral and more stupid, but long term trends across decades show exactly the opposite.

    I am very interested in this subject. Please can you provide me a link to information showing the improvement of morality? I refer to comparisons in civilised nations and peoples - barbaric romans, vikings or chinese dont count! If you refer to education improvements - I would agree that it has increased...it would be hard to argue the opposite, access and availability to it at least. The uptake and use of it is open to debate.

    I agree about it is an issue of access. Unfortunately this World gravitates to the simple and the easy option. There are countless examples of this in small aspects of life. This has a detrimental effect on society. I could wax lyrical on a debate on these matters. Will stop though as this is not the thread to do it on ; )

    What Rich said - it's just a sign you're becoming an old married man. I always like this quote
    Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.

    By Socrates approx 400 BC

    So around 1582 then? :wink:
  • rayjay
    rayjay Posts: 1,384
    Poem called,,,,,,,,,CARBON DEATH

    Our young athlete could not compete , so he smashes his bike into the concrete .
    The bike it bounces on the floor and Kittel can not win anymore.
    It upset some who post on this sight, to see such a terrible waste of a high end bike
    Me I just don't really care, I found it entertaining watching his bike fly through the air.


    thanks :lol:
  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    Ancient proverb ...

    Ar$eholes always smell incorrectly ...
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    How about we just let Kittel f'uck up his bike if that's what he wants to do and get on the with the show...?

    Ethics, morals, responsibility, role models for kids and what have you.. Let's leave this cheesy s'hit to the American basketball players. They are as interesting and inspiring as a cup of coffee, without coffee.
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    Tough sprint finish tommrrow.

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,708
    Must have Sagan written all over it that no?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    Can't seem to see the results for the other jerseys there, did Dowsett pick up plenty of the intermediate sprints? I only saw it from the last one he went for and I can't find a list of who has what jersey anywhere
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Paul 8v wrote:
    Can't seem to see the results for the other jerseys there, did Dowsett pick up plenty of the intermediate sprints? I only saw it from the last one he went for and I can't find a list of who has what jersey anywhere


    Dowsett's lying in 2nd place behind Pelucchi in the Points comp - 10 points to Pelucchi's 12

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