Tirreno-Adriatico 2014 *SPOILERS*
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Contador using the WI FI makes life easier for the mechanics .
Look at the cage on the sky bike ,great work done by the mechanics.
Quintana's set up looks almost normal.0 -
ddraver wrote:Apparently ( I have my doubts) SRAM designed the WiFli set up to get Bertie up the Angliru, would make sense that he's a fan...
Sram released a cheaper version before releasing the top of the range Red. I think it was the Apex
I would like a close up of the Sky cage , see what the mechanics did and was it working with the D12?0 -
TailWindHome wrote:
A bit different today, to Cav's final TA sprint stage of a couple of years ago:
Just an excuse to wheel out
an old favourite. "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I've been a bit out of the loop these last few days (real life dammit) and caught up with yesterday's stage and Contador's mastery and the hell of the final climb. Is today's worth seeking highlights of?
How did the race split and Kittel get dropped? On the climbs? I should go back and read all your comments but I'm being lazy.Correlation is not causation.0 -
rayjay wrote:Contador using the WI FI makes life easier for the mechanics .
Look at the cage on the sky bike ,great work done by the mechanics.
Quintana's set up looks almost normal.
There's only one Campagnolo cage size in the top-end groupsets (not sure about the lower end). So the most he can be riding is a 50/34 with a max 29 sprocket.0 -
I think that's what Dowsett said -his mechanics said to him - do you want 29 or compact and he said he wanted 29 AND compact!
Dura Ace Di2 has same cage compatibility issues with a large cassette, but Sky mechanics cobbled a solution together - wonder if they could have done same if using Campag?http://www.georgesfoundation.org
http://100hillsforgeorge.blogspot.com/
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rayjay wrote:ddraver wrote:Apparently ( I have my doubts) SRAM designed the WiFli set up to get Bertie up the Angliru, would make sense that he's a fan...
Sram released a cheaper version before releasing the top of the range Red. I think it was the Apex
I would like a close up of the Sky cage , see what the mechanics did and was it working with the D12?
They slapped an Apex logo on it but the story is that it was designed for him - weather it was RED or not wasnt importantWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Although the big competition had been ditched, that was textbook by OPQS. Shows the difference when they are riding for Cav rather than for a GC rider.0
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mroli wrote:I think that's what Dowsett said -his mechanics said to him - do you want 29 or compact and he said he wanted 29 AND compact!
Dura Ace Di2 has same cage compatibility issues with a large cassette, but Sky mechanics cobbled a solution together - wonder if they could have done same if using Campag?
I just wonder if Dura and Campy will bring out a Wi Fli equivalent, especially for the Giro and some of the long steep climbs they have had in recent years.
Millar using a mtb cage at the giro, 32 cassette.
Contador's early apex
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Above The Cows wrote:I've been a bit out of the loop these last few days (real life dammit) and caught up with yesterday's stage and Contador's mastery and the hell of the final climb. Is today's worth seeking highlights of?
How did the race split and Kittel get dropped? On the climbs? I should go back and read all your comments but I'm being lazy.
If your laziness doesn't prevent you from flopping a digit finger onto the "play" button, then I'd say give it a whirl…
… but then I'd watch any old cycling sh!te, so perhaps I'm not the most rigorous critic.
There's something about the way Cav hugs some of his teammates post sprint win (particularly Petacchi) that reminds me of a little boy cuddling his daddy. In the often cynical world of pro sport, it's quite sweet really...0 -
Interesting to see the development. If the pros are using 32s what would normal humans have to use?!0
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OCDuPalais wrote:Above The Cows wrote:I've been a bit out of the loop these last few days (real life dammit) and caught up with yesterday's stage and Contador's mastery and the hell of the final climb. Is today's worth seeking highlights of?
How did the race split and Kittel get dropped? On the climbs? I should go back and read all your comments but I'm being lazy.
If your laziness doesn't prevent you from flopping a digit finger onto the "play" button, then I'd say give it a whirl…
… but then I'd watch any old cycling sh!te, so perhaps I'm not the most rigorous critic.
There's something about the way Cav hugs some of his teammates post sprint win (particularly Petacchi) that reminds me of a little boy cuddling his daddy. In the often cynical world of pro sport, it's quite sweet really...
It was nice in the post race interview that he seemed like he was definitely up for a battle with the two big Germans and also was concerned for those in the crash.
I did like the "Oi, where's my hat?" :-)0 -
I am going to do an OCDuPalais on this. Can someone fill me in since I last posted 10 pages ago?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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pinarello001 wrote:I am going to do an OCDuPalais on this. Can someone fill me in since I last posted 10 pages ago?
Kittel somehow got dropped on a climb and ended up with a team pursuit of Giant v a 'Dale / Lotto combined team. Giant closed the gap but not enough. OPQS played it clever and saved their energy for the last 3km when they got a nice lead out train going, a couple of following Lottos went down on the final corner which meant at one stage OPQS looked like team time trialling to the top 5 on the stage. Cav won the sprint by a huge distance and Petachi held on for second.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Bertie's epic victory was somehow being used as a stick to beat Sky.
Think that's it.0 -
Pross wrote:pinarello001 wrote:I am going to do an OCDuPalais on this. Can someone fill me in since I last posted 10 pages ago?
Kittel somehow got dropped on a climb and ended up with a team pursuit of Giant v a 'Dale / Lotto combined team. Giant closed the gap but not enough. OPQS played it clever and saved their energy for the last 3km when they got a nice lead out train going, a couple of following Lottos went down on the final corner which meant at one stage OPQS looked like team time trialling to the top 5 on the stage. Cav won the sprint by a huge distance and Petachi held on for second.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Bertie's epic victory was somehow being used as a stick to beat Sky.
Think that's it.
Cheers Pross. I did get lost in the 'To bash Sky or not to bash Sky or dyathinkyeraskybasher bit' and got a little sleepy.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
OCDuPalais wrote:Above The Cows wrote:I've been a bit out of the loop these last few days (real life dammit) and caught up with yesterday's stage and Contador's mastery and the hell of the final climb. Is today's worth seeking highlights of?
How did the race split and Kittel get dropped? On the climbs? I should go back and read all your comments but I'm being lazy.
If your laziness doesn't prevent you from flopping a digit finger onto the "play" button, then I'd say give it a whirl…
… but then I'd watch any old cycling sh!te, so perhaps I'm not the most rigorous critic.
There's something about the way Cav hugs some of his teammates post sprint win (particularly Petacchi) that reminds me of a little boy cuddling his daddy. In the often cynical world of pro sport, it's quite sweet really...
Oh thanks. Sounds like its worth a gander. Will save it for after my two hours of morning meetings tomorrow morning as something to look forward to.Paul 8v wrote:I did like the "Oi, where's my hat?" :-)
I will especially look out for the hat remark.
Cheers fellas.Correlation is not causation.0 -
Above The Cows wrote:OCDuPalais wrote:Above The Cows wrote:I've been a bit out of the loop these last few days (real life dammit) and caught up with yesterday's stage and Contador's mastery and the hell of the final climb. Is today's worth seeking highlights of?
How did the race split and Kittel get dropped? On the climbs? I should go back and read all your comments but I'm being lazy.
If your laziness doesn't prevent you from flopping a digit finger onto the "play" button, then I'd say give it a whirl…
… but then I'd watch any old cycling sh!te, so perhaps I'm not the most rigorous critic.
There's something about the way Cav hugs some of his teammates post sprint win (particularly Petacchi) that reminds me of a little boy cuddling his daddy. In the often cynical world of pro sport, it's quite sweet really...
Oh thanks. Sounds like its worth a gander. Will save it for after my two hours of morning meetings tomorrow morning as something to look forward to.Paul 8v wrote:I did like the "Oi, where's my hat?" :-)
I will especially look out for the hat remark.
Cheers fellas.
It was something like that anyway!0 -
Paul 8v wrote:Interesting to see the development. If the pros are using 32s what would normal humans have to use?!
It depends on the individual ,look at the way Contador had a dig on that climb yesterday towards the end.
Purito was dominating climbs like that.
Contador seems to have found his old legs.
Gearing is so important and if you over geared your Fu%5ed. Spinning his back in vogue
this is quite good.
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That video just reminded me how much I wanted to see Contador vs Froome in this race.0
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Fford Penlich is 40%, I am a very ordinary human and I got up with a 34/25. But it was not at the end of 200km worth of riding: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/105618Paul 8v wrote:Interesting to see the development. If the pros are using 32s what would normal humans have to use?!
I think the pros can get up pretty much anything on a bike - a 32 is just going to make the experience a little less horrific. If they've got it, they can use it. It's not necessarily because they NEED it...http://www.georgesfoundation.org
http://100hillsforgeorge.blogspot.com/
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Somewhere on Twitter it was suggested that on the steepest part of the climb Bertie was down to 7kph.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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mroli wrote:
Fford Penlich is 40%, I am a very ordinary human and I got up with a 34/25. But it was not at the end of 200km worth of riding: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/105618Paul 8v wrote:Interesting to see the development. If the pros are using 32s what would normal humans have to use?!
I think the pros can get up pretty much anything on a bike - a 32 is just going to make the experience a little less horrific. If they've got it, they can use it. It's not necessarily because they NEED it...
I dont know the climb, which you obviously do, but 40% sourds unlikely, especially if you can get up on a 25.
The pros had little gears but they were turning hem over quicker than you or I would.0 -
Petacchi:
“He’s sensitive. He feels the pressure, which you journalists make but that’s part of the game. I told him that. I think my experience, and [Mark] Renshaw’s helps, because we tell him, ‘Cavendish, you can’t let yourself not do the sprint. You can’t only think of the Tour de France. There are other important races before it where people expect you. Everyone will use those rides to judge you and talk well or badly about you. This is your job, your job is to win — not to just race.’”
--TailWindHome wrote:Somewhere on Twitter it was suggested that on the steepest part of the climb Bertie was down to 7kph.
Sounds reasonable. He also knew he had to hold some back both before the climb (hence why he didnt chase King then left him standing) and during (hence why he hit the accelerator to drop Ges).
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Leaving T/A with a sore Achilles. First time here in 1998 four more times after that, and I have never left in one piece.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Today's 9.1km test isn't much of a commute, never mind a serious TT. Race organizers are hell-bent on keeping the TT prowess of GC riders a secret.
Still, interesting to see how Quintana has progressed. And fingers crossed that Alberto holds off the challenge of Kreuziger. A GC podium of Contador, Kreuziger & Peraud would make a refreshing change and hopefully set the stage for Tinkoff Twitter fireworks.
...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Ok just for you Maca.
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frenchfighter wrote:Petacchi:
“He’s sensitive. He feels the pressure, which you journalists make but that’s part of the game. I told him that. I think my experience, and [Mark] Renshaw’s helps, because we tell him, ‘Cavendish, you can’t let yourself not do the sprint. You can’t only think of the Tour de France. There are other important races before it where people expect you. Everyone will use those rides to judge you and talk well or badly about you. This is your job, your job is to win — not to just race.’”
--TailWindHome wrote:Somewhere on Twitter it was suggested that on the steepest part of the climb Bertie was down to 7kph.
Sounds reasonable. He also knew he had to hold some back both before the climb (hence why he didnt chase King then left him standing) and during (hence why he hit the accelerator to drop Ges).
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@hornerakg
Leaving T/A with a sore Achilles. First time here in 1998 four more times after that, and I have never left in one piece.
Cav is lucky to have Petacchi for his experience and Renshaw for his familiarity back. Hopefully he'll listen to the wise words of the old pro.
I watched the last few km's of the previous stage laqst night. the gradient wa ridiculous but interesting in that the riders had to measure their resources and be spot on with their race tactics. Bertie didn't panic when King went which showed his clas and experience as a climber. He also meassuered his effort well against Geschke before delivering the killer blow.
Seeing pro riders implode on that steep gradient was like watching the Fred Whitton0
