The Hour *** spoilers ***
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frenchfighter wrote:Why because, ability at 4mins is akin to ability at 1hr? You should let the track sprinters know.
Riviere, Moser, Obree, Boardman, Wiggins, Bobridge, Dennis and Anquetil would make it seem there is a correlation between 4km pursuit and hour performance, yes"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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“I bought the tickets myself,” he said. “It was £200 a ticket and I paid £1000 to go with my four friends who I invited. So I don’t really see what’s wrong with that. As far as I know I can attend a sporting event. If I buy a ticket for a Chelsea game I’m going to go to the game. It’s as simple as that.
“I wanted to go to be with my friends, two of them are huge bike fans and had never gone to that kind of event. They had a great time and I had a great time being with them.
“I’ve seen these reactions of 'who let him in? How did he get there?' It’s very simple, I bought the tickets and that was it.”
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disgruntledgoat wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Why because, ability at 4mins is akin to ability at 1hr? You should let the track sprinters know.
Riviere, Moser, Obree, Boardman, Wiggins, Bobridge, Dennis and Anquetil would make it seem there is a correlation between 4km pursuit and hour performance, yes
Speaking of which, Taylor Phinney could probably make a decent fist of it too"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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frenchfighter wrote:Why, because ability at 4mins is akin to ability at 1hr? You should let the track sprinters know.
Two different things. One is explosive the other is a controlled effort.
Whilst Theo Bos was a World Champion track sprinter, and whilst he isn't in the top tier of road sprinters, he's done OK at finishing sprints after 150-200km.0 -
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I was quite possibly standing next to you at one point. A few of my group had Maldon club tops on. I was in a blue polo and shorts. Were you captain Wiggins with the captain birdseye hat? :-)CarbonClem wrote:Paul 8v wrote:Just got round to posting this but Wow! What a night. The atmosphere was amazing, my ears were ringing when I got out it was so loud!
Sean Yates was sitting just back from us, we met Malcolm Elliot walking about as well. We met the others from our club outside the cycle surgery just in time to see Millar standing on the roof of Brailsford's Bentley whilst his sister looked on saying "I'm going to get fired for this!"
We waited around a bit to see if Wiggins was coming out (He didn't) but we saw Dr Hutch and Brailsford. THEN some Spanish guy came out, it was only Big Mig himself so he signed the page in the programme with his Pinarello on. Big Mig and Yates were in the first TDF I ever watched so it was quite a special night.
I managed to get two free Rapha posters they were flogging off for a fiver each and two Rapha hats that have to be worth at least £25 quid each going on their prices so I think the ticket cost was covered!
I think Mr Dowsett is going to have a job beating that distance to be fair.
I think we must have had pretty much the same night! Met Mig, nabbed posters, met SDB, and laughed at Millar
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Have ANY of the hour record bikes been production bikes? Canyon don't make a persuit bike, or Trek. Fair point on the 3d printed bars but I'm sure the other bikes have one off parts. I believe Dowsetts wheels were a one off?disgruntledgoat wrote:0 -
yes forgot about him but would he be given time to prepare? Bobridge is the obvious choice to try, he is far and away the fastest pursuiter, I was shocked at his pacing in his effort, he wont make that mistake again if he tires :-) Dowsett will bot get near Wiggos time unless the barometer falls through the floor completely and a hurricane hits London and gives him a tailwind at same time. I like Dowsett, but he is not in same league.disgruntledgoat wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Why because, ability at 4mins is akin to ability at 1hr? You should let the track sprinters know.
Riviere, Moser, Obree, Boardman, Wiggins, Bobridge, Dennis and Anquetil would make it seem there is a correlation between 4km pursuit and hour performance, yes
Speaking of which, Taylor Phinney could probably make a decent fist of it too0 -
In the latest PC Dowsett says you have to make 6 bikes, can't remember where each of them go at the end, but that's one of the rules.
Also, Dowsett's skinsuit is patent pending, and I'm sure there will be a rule about that.
Glad Alex has distanced himself from the comments, as even in the article the guy goes from "coach" to "Bike Shop owner" to "long time friend"0 -
Dowsett is going to have another go...
Is it realistic to better yourself by a mile? I'd say no... maybe in a few years if he further improves, he is only 26 after all
If that's the case, then he is the hot favourite for the TT worldsleft the forum March 20230 -
Tony Martin will Probably beat Wiggins current time if he's allowed to train for it specifically. I have my doubts as to whether that would happen based on his current role for EQS.0
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The Canyon and Trek bikes weren't purpose deigned track bikes AFAIK. They were TT frames, tweaked and kitted out for the track. The Canyon was a modified Speedmax CF wasn't it? and the Trek Jens used was a Speed Concept.Paul 8v wrote:
Have ANY of the hour record bikes been production bikes? Canyon don't make a persuit bike, or Trek. Fair point on the 3d printed bars but I'm sure the other bikes have one off parts. I believe Dowsetts wheels were a one off?disgruntledgoat wrote:0 -
Cancellara keeps hinting that he's about to retire. Seems like this could be a good project for him. He could ride the Spring Classics season, then take a couple of months to train specifically for the hour and then retire. I'm sure he could rustle up a bit of sponsorship and technical support to have a proper stab at it. This assumes he's able to overcome the issues he's apparently had riding on the track. Of course up until Sunday you wouldn't have bet against him taking the record, but now I think it's a much riskier proposition for him.0
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Graeme_S wrote:Cancellara keeps hinting that he's about to retire. Seems like this could be a good project for him. He could ride the Spring Classics season, then take a couple of months to train specifically for the hour and then retire. I'm sure he could rustle up a bit of sponsorship and technical support to have a proper stab at it. This assumes he's able to overcome the issues he's apparently had riding on the track. Of course up until Sunday you wouldn't have bet against him taking the record, but now I think it's a much riskier proposition for him.
I think nowadays riders can see their decline much sooner because they can train with power output figures in front of them in real time.
So when I hear riders mooting retirement, I tend to suspect they can see their numbers shrinking.0 -
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The Canyon and Trek bikes weren't purpose deigned track bikes AFAIK. They were TT frames, tweaked and kitted out for the track. The Canyon was a modified Speedmax CF wasn't it? and the Trek Jens used was a Speed Concept.Paul 8v wrote:
Have ANY of the hour record bikes been production bikes? Canyon don't make a persuit bike, or Trek. Fair point on the 3d printed bars but I'm sure the other bikes have one off parts. I believe Dowsetts wheels were a one off?disgruntledgoat wrote:
The Pinarello bike is just a modified Bolide TT bike, narrowed the rear triangle to suit a 120 hub and changed forks to suit not having brakes. Pinarello also say that they are going to be using 3D printing for handlebar set ups under their Most in house section, I guess Bradleys handlebars will be able to be covered that way.
From the Pro Cycling article about Dowsetts attempt 6 bikes were made, 1 for Alex, 1 for Movistar, 1 for Canyon, 1 for a charity auction and a couple for sale to meet UCI rules. Wouldn't be a stretch to think Pinarello will do the same.0 -
Ferrari's take:
http://53x12.com/do/show?page=indepth.view&id=159
Very interesting.
For someone and some BC body who pride themselves on the detail, looks like they didn't do a great job.Contador is the Greatest0 -
I participated in the preparation of 9 (nine) Hour Record attempts
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philbar72 wrote:Tony Martin will Probably beat Wiggins current time if he's allowed to train for it specifically. I have my doubts as to whether that would happen based on his current role for EQS.
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/06/rolf- ... -his-head/
Considered opinion by Aldag in what it would takeM.Rushton0 -
Paul 8v wrote:
Have ANY of the hour record bikes been production bikes? Canyon don't make a persuit bike, or Trek. Fair point on the 3d printed bars but I'm sure the other bikes have one off parts. I believe Dowsetts wheels were a one off?disgruntledgoat wrote:
Dennis rode a production BMC track frame. There was a bit of extra carbon trickery added to his bars and stem to make it stiffer and more aero.
Dekker rode an off-the-shelf bike for his attempt. Bobridge rode a bog-standard Cervelo track frame.0 -
I think you may have misheard/misunderstood what he was saying. He said that there are only two cyclists 'who could do this' - by which he meant stage that sort of event with that level of interest and support. (The one we don't talk about obviously being Armstrong - or used to be).ddraver wrote:On the Cycling podcast live commentary Matt Seaton said that it was beatable by 2 people, one of which we don't talk about...who was that?!?
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frenchfighter wrote:Ferrari's take:
http://53x12.com/do/show?page=indepth.view&id=159
Very interesting.
For someone and some BC body who pride themselves on the detail, looks like they didn't do a great job.
Because Ferrari says so in a blog he looks like wrote while he was waiting for the kettle to boil? really?0 -
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The air definitely felt a bit thick on the way to work today*. I'm pretty sure I'd have managed to average 55kmh or so at lower pressure.
*note that it's thicker up here than the paltry 1032 around London0 -
Ha my 2 hour hilly loop took me a good 5 minutes more than normal, but now I have an excuse0
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philbar72 wrote:Tony Martin will Probably beat Wiggins current time if he's allowed to train for it specifically. I have my doubts as to whether that would happen based on his current role for EQS.
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/06/rolf-aldag-on-tony-martin-and-uci-hour-record-he-is-definitely-toying-around-with-it-in-his-head/
Considered opinion by Aldag in what it would take
True, Aldag has pretty much nailed it. Interesting and true re the difference in position. its slight but noticeable. I haven't ever aerolabbed my track rides, but i reckon because of the narrower BB and rear seat stays, there would be a reasonable difference.0 -
I'd have headlined the Tony Martin article along the lines of 'Martin unlikely to contest the hour record anytime soon'.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0
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This is why you don't work in the media.I'd have headlined the Tony Martin article along the lines of 'Martin unlikely to contest the hour record anytime soon'.
Similarly this week: "Farah heads to USA to demand answers from Salazar" is better than "Farah heads to USA because that's where he lives"Twitter: @RichN950
