The Friday night christ i'm f.ucking bored thread...

Stevo_666

TLW1 wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Pinno wrote:

The Jag xf is nice. I don't see it as a mid life crisis car,
A 90's 911 (993), now there's a thing but not exactly cheap.

I used to have a pic of a 911 Turbo on my wall when I was a kid. Trouble is, old cars just don't do it for me and to need Porkas are bloody expensive. Maybe Aldi could start selling them, they do a fair bit of discount German stuff.

Don’t be so tight, if you want it go for it

The tight git in me tells me sports cars will be harder to flog in Winter so some good haggling may pay dividends over the next few months

Stevo_666

Pinno wrote:

Now, to be serious...

Audi's. Bit dull. Doesn't really flick any switcjes for me. Sure, an Audi R something? You'll run out of Tarmac very quickly. They are so staid when driving normally. They only become interesting when you put your foot down which leads to... Practicality. If you are considering an Audi, you are in the same bracket as a BMW. Audi's (especially the R badged variety run on Bluetooth and very fancy dealer only software). My friends neighbour have an Audi A4. Plain 2L petrol and a small oil leak from the blue motion auto box. Audi want £3500 before labour to fix it.
My mate has an Audi A6 with a crack in the screen Autoglass will do the job and only a £75 excess fee but all sorts of things are wired to the screen to the extent that once the screem is done, it will have to go to Audi to get the software re-programmed.
You will be using whatever you get for an occassional blast but first you have to get out of London. Apart from that, the odd (legal) drive up the A/M1.

Meanredspider said ut: You do not have to have power to have fun.

Maserati?!! FFS. Do you know the service costs of those things? Whatever appreciation/holding value it has will be offset by servicing costs and you will have to go dealer only to maintian your service stamp history and you will have to get it serviced within the reciommended schedule.
Do not have a breakdown in Redcar 'cos you will be calling Maserati of London to come and pick the car up.

Maserati servicing:
Every 12500 miles.
Ghibli for example: £2500 per service.
Rubber on those 20 or 21 inch wheels will get munched quickly and will cost a fortune to replace.

I could not bring myself to pay over £35k for a car unless it is a classic which will appreciate markedly and I could afford to maintian service history.

I understand being put off a classic and yes, Porkers are eye wateringly expensive to maintain. That's why my humble 944 ticks my box - I do most of the work on it, it will appreciate very slowly, it's so much fun to drive. I have owned and driven far more powerful cars but no other car has put such a smile on my face like the 944 - it get's under your skin.

So where does this leave you?
I have a Polish friend who owns a dark grey Jaguar XF. (She's meant to bring ot to me for a detail, but hasn't had the time). It looks good. The interior retains that British elegance and simplicity. I would even say that the option has to be an Auto...
Or...
Something in the £20k bracket. An M BMW? A Nissan 350 Z GT? You would get a heck of a lot of bang for your bucks and not have the concern that your fancy Maserati with it's metallic flick gets a ding in the NCP/Tesco car park/dizzy burd in her Range Rover vogue delivering Sebastian and Mercedes to school running into the back of you.
"Oh f*ck, there goes my NCD, I have a £350 excess and the paint isn't going to match so the whole thing will have to be re-sprayed...".
Protected NCD or not, it will affect your premium and don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
"Have you had a claim inthe last 5 years?"
"Have you had an accident in the last 5 years?"

'Hang on, wait a minute, where's the box to tick satying |I had protected NCD?...'.

The shortlist for you I think is:
Fast Japanese motor - Lexus IS 350 sport?, Lexus LFA (if you can get one), Nissan Z?,
BMW M badge. Fantastic ZF auto boxes on them.
Jaguar of some description.
Or at a stretch and don't over look it - Ford Mondeo ST Line.
Merc AMG. Although I think the build quality of the Merc does not match the BMW and the AMG badged variety are always over priced.

Cheers Mr. P, spoken like a true petrol head 8) MRS was right as the most fun I had vaguely legally was in my old 205 GTI. The Evo had to be a track car for the sake of my license.

I can't get my head round the Masers regardless of the cost you mentioned, which doesn't help at all.
Audi - still not a twitch
Lexus - good ones cost a packet. LFA makes a Maser look cheap
M series BMW - yep, worth a look past the image
Not enthusiastic about the 350Z - if I was doing that I may as well get a Skyline/GT-R and do it properly.
Fords - had a few as family transport and that's enough for now. No real sporting stuff that's affordable.
AMG Mercs - true a lot of the image is not backed up by quality in real world but the engines are bloody great and we're really close to a dealer.

So its Jag, Merc, Bimmer and Nissan on the short list.

Wheelspinner

First one relatively rare, but either of these are (I think) a good choice in the M series Bimmers...

Stevo_666

Wheelspinner wrote:

First one relatively rare, but either of these are (I think) a good choice in the M series Bimmers...

Second pic = M2 I think. Was thinking M3 but quite a few similarities between the two?

Wheelspinner

Stevo 666 wrote:

Wheelspinner wrote:

First one relatively rare, but either of these are (I think) a good choice in the M series Bimmers...

Second pic = M2 I think. Was thinking M3 but quite a few similarities between the two?

Dunno what you call them in UK - its a "1 M" which is the hot rod version of the 135i two door coupe. Missile! Smaller than the M3, but just as quick everywhere

Stevo_666

Wheelspinner wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Wheelspinner wrote:

First one relatively rare, but either of these are (I think) a good choice in the M series Bimmers...

Second pic = M2 I think. Was thinking M3 but quite a few similarities between the two?

Dunno what you call them in UK - its a "1 M" which is the hot rod version of the 135i two door coupe. Missile! Smaller than the M3, but just as quick everywhere

Just goes to show ho little I know about Bimmers these days...
https://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/1-series/m-coupe

No longer on sale up this part of the world but worth a look at some used ones, ta WS.

pinno

V6

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 0lg&page=2

Stevo_666

Pinno wrote:

V6

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 0lg&page=2

Blimey, that's cheap for what it is! I could keep the Maz-duh for bike toting duty with prices like that. RWD as well. You have a point.

hopkinb

Stevo 666 wrote:

Pinno wrote:

V6

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 0lg&page=2

Blimey, that's cheap for what it is! I could keep the Maz-duh for bike toting duty with prices like that. RWD as well. You have a point.

You may as well grow a pony tail, invest in some leather trousers, and chase inappropriate skirt.

Stevo_666

hopkinb wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Pinno wrote:

V6

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 0lg&page=2

Blimey, that's cheap for what it is! I could keep the Maz-duh for bike toting duty with prices like that. RWD as well. You have a point.

You may as well grow a pony tail, invest in some leather trousers, and chase inappropriate skirt.

One out of three isn't bad :P

I think me and Pinno are looking past a few image issues...

pinno

There's also the Toyota GT86 but I think it looks a little boy'ish:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 0lg&page=1

Not that much power @ 200 bhp. Can easily be chipped. Handles very well apparently.

pinno

What were you saying earlier?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 500&page=2

Ouch:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 500&page=3

'Part x welcome'.

Stevo_666

Pinno wrote:

What were you saying earlier?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 500&page=2

Ouch:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 500&page=3

'Part x welcome'.

Chavved up versions.

Mind you, might fit in up North - watching this now:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bjj734/the-mighty-redcar-series-1-episode-1#

Matthewfalle

curved ball:

alfa giulia quadrofoglio

Stevo_666

Matthewfalle wrote:

curved ball:

alfa giulia quadrofoglio

Thanks MF, curved balls are what I'm after - the stuff I haven't thought of. Like that and Pinno's Nissan 370.

Actually looks rather good and a direct C63/M3 competitor:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/alfa-romeo/giulia-quadrifoglio/verdict

pblakeney

"Second only to the C63."
But the M5 is number 1. Hmmmm. :? :? :?

Stevo_666

PBlakeney wrote:

"Second only to the C63."
But the M5 is number 1. Hmmmm. :? :? :?

Not well presented is it. The article is a 'peer group' comparison of the medium size hot saloons like C63/M3: the M5 is another size and price bracket up, along with the E63 etc, but doesn't help that they put that wider super saloon ranking alongside the verdict on the Alfa.

BelgianBeerGeek

Stevo 666 wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

"Second only to the C63."
But the M5 is number 1. Hmmmm. :? :? :?

Not well presented is it. The article is a 'peer group' comparison of the medium size hot saloons like C63/M3: the M5 is another size and price bracket up, along with the E63 etc, but doesn't help that they put that wider super saloon ranking alongside the verdict on the Alfa.

Beemer drivers of course being known for their objectivity.

Stevo_666

BelgianBeerGeek wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

"Second only to the C63."
But the M5 is number 1. Hmmmm. :? :? :?

Not well presented is it. The article is a 'peer group' comparison of the medium size hot saloons like C63/M3: the M5 is another size and price bracket up, along with the E63 etc, but doesn't help that they put that wider super saloon ranking alongside the verdict on the Alfa.

Beemer drivers of course being known for their objectivity.

I suppose if I got one I wouldn't need to use the indicators, not that I do sweeping generalisations

BelgianBeerGeek

Stevo 666 wrote:

BelgianBeerGeek wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

"Second only to the C63."
But the M5 is number 1. Hmmmm. :? :? :?

Not well presented is it. The article is a 'peer group' comparison of the medium size hot saloons like C63/M3: the M5 is another size and price bracket up, along with the E63 etc, but doesn't help that they put that wider super saloon ranking alongside the verdict on the Alfa.

Beemer drivers of course being known for their objectivity.

I suppose if I got one I wouldn't need to use the indicators, not that I do sweeping generalisations

They are fine cars, but are they great cars? As the lads say above (and they’ll know more than me on this issue), well worth keeping an open mind. An older M5 stealthily de-badged is a hoot, though.

Matthewfalle

Stevo 666 wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

curved ball:

alfa giulia quadrofoglio

Thanks MF, curved balls are what I'm after - the stuff I haven't thought of. Like that and Pinno's Nissan 370.

Actually looks rather good and a direct C63/M3 competitor:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/alfa-romeo/giulia-quadrifoglio/verdict

pleasure

MF took MF to go and see one - TDV needs a new car in a year or so so checking out whats what.

its lovely - not super lovely like a quattrofoglio 159 would be but seriously nice. MF would deffo have one to cart TDNFNATN and her lab coats around in.

pinno

Yep, an older M535 or similar. You can pick them up for a very reasonable price. That car set a helluva standard in comfort, handling and power.
TLW had one (I think) but he'll agree nonetheless.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 500&page=1

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... 0lg&page=2

I still think a Jag would suit you sir.

pinno

...or that spritely Nissan Z 370...

BelgianBeerGeek

Or an S500. A true plutocrats car. Blat up the A1 in style, arrive fresh as a daisy, you old git. And when you take your mum out for dinner she will feel like a duchess. And no one can outrun an S500.
When you and Mrs Stevo turn up in St Moritz it will still look cool.

pblakeney

BelgianBeerGeek wrote:

Or an S500. A true plutocrats car. Blat up the A1 in style, arrive fresh as a daisy, you old git. And when you take your mum out for dinner she will feel like a duchess. And no one can outrun an S500.
When you and Mrs Stevo turn up in St Moritz it will still look cool.

Which brings us to the SL63.

BelgianBeerGeek

PBlakeney wrote:

BelgianBeerGeek wrote:

Or an S500. A true plutocrats car. Blat up the A1 in style, arrive fresh as a daisy, you old git. And when you take your mum out for dinner she will feel like a duchess. And no one can outrun an S500.
When you and Mrs Stevo turn up in St Moritz it will still look cool.

Which brings us to the SL63.

Mmmm sl63.....

Stevo_666

BelgianBeerGeek wrote:

Or an S500. A true plutocrats car. Blat up the A1 in style, arrive fresh as a daisy, you old git. And when you take your mum out for dinner she will feel like a duchess. And no one can outrun an S500.
When you and Mrs Stevo turn up in St Moritz it will still look cool.

I suppose a 4 wheeled V sign to the proletariat has its attractions - unfortunately dinners with my old dear are generally held in the old fogeys' home as she's not really up to going out. She always fancied a Merc but the options needed now would be space for a wheelchair and wipe clean seats.

Fortunately Mrs. 666 doesn't ski, which means that my ski trips are still fun

Stevo_666

BelgianBeerGeek wrote:

PBlakeney wrote:

BelgianBeerGeek wrote:

Or an S500. A true plutocrats car. Blat up the A1 in style, arrive fresh as a daisy, you old git. And when you take your mum out for dinner she will feel like a duchess. And no one can outrun an S500.
When you and Mrs Stevo turn up in St Moritz it will still look cool.

Which brings us to the SL63.

Mmmm sl63.....

I think it's too late for some people on this forum to get the 'wind in the hair' experience

pinno

Wind in the hair is highly over rated.
Is the weather is conducive, you'll get sun burn.
If you drive with the top off, down a busy road, it's f*cking noisy.
...and they can leak.

The S500 is huge. I do like the S class though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... New&page=1

Stevo_666

Pinno wrote:

Wind in the hair is highly over rated.
Is the weather is conducive, you'll get sun burn.
If you drive with the top off, down a busy road, it's f*cking noisy.
...and they can leak.

The S500 is huge. I do like the S class though.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... New&page=1

S Class and the like are too big and barge-like for me. Needs to be a driver's car: the ability to do long-ish drives is a bit further down the priority list.