Chris Froome Lookign at Stems

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  • napoleond
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  • Paul 8v
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    That can't be your screenshot Frenchie, I could never imagine you playing as Sky in a cycling manager game!
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Paul 8v wrote:
    That can't be your screenshot Frenchie, I could never imagine you playing as Sky in a cycling manager game!


    FF does it so that he can have Froome lose control of his bike and tumble down a ravine, John Lee Augustyn-stylie

    :wink:
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,651
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Paul 8v wrote:
    That can't be your screenshot Frenchie, I could never imagine you playing as Sky in a cycling manager game!


    FF does it so that he can have Froome lose control of his bike and tumble down a ravine, John Lee Augustyn-stylie

    :wink:

    I reckon he just plays to win. :-)


    And if anyone wants to win a bonus point (I'm looking at you, FF) please find me a pic of Chris Froome looking at his stem with no power meter on it.

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  • frenchfighter
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    There are about 5 other examples I could post from his first race of the year.

    Here you can see Uran and Sagan showing him when it is acceptable to put your head down - when you are in the zone, going for glory, on the front, into a headwind.

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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    I posted Dr Ferrari's take on this, didn't I?

    Looking Froome in action on the Mont Ventoux during the TdF 2013, one can't help but notice that the English cyclist rhythmically lowers his head, with a frequency that tends to increase along with the pace of the riding: every 5-7 seconds when the effort is moderate, every 2-4 seconds when he attacks, as he did 5-6 km from the finish line on the French mountain.

    Some observers have attributed these movements of the head to the obsessive need of "robo-athlete" to check watts and heart rate from the SRM mounted on the handlebar.
    I disagree: any lowering of the head by Froome corresponds to a forced expiration, implemented with a special technique.
    Bowing the head facilitates the elevation of the diaphragm, further encouraging the complete emptying of the lungs: the anterior myofascial tension (from the jaw to the symphysis pubis), proper of the position in hyperextension of the head of the rider looking forward, is in fact reduced, thus facilitating the full expiration.
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  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    Does Ferrari write that himself? I didn't undestand every other word.
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  • RichN95.
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    Here's one I took myself:

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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    LOL!

    Unreocgnizeable person there apart from the stem-look.
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  • markwb79
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    frenchfighter wrote:
    LOL!

    Unreocgnizeable person there apart from the stem-look.


    Plus I cant see a computer on his bike, so there goes the SRM theory.
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  • Macaloon
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    iainf72 wrote:
    I posted Dr Ferrari's take on this, didn't I?

    I missed that previously. Very interesting, ta. But I don't think our aesthetes could swallow widespread adoption of this innovation. How far will Kiryienka have to bend?
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  • thomthom
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    Markwb79 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    LOL!

    Unreocgnizeable person there apart from the stem-look.


    Plus I cant see a computer on his bike, so there goes the SRM theory.

    I don't think anyone seriously ever believed that was the case. It just fit quite well in a funny way with the whole Sky robotic theme.

    I can't speak for the guys at Cyclingnews, though. That lot is special.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The whole article is here

    http://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=article&id=130

    There is also some interesting stuff re: Froome in here

    http://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=indepth.view&id=139
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  • ddraver
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    That's really interesting cos Radcliffe does do that. I hadnt thought of it until you pointed it out...
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  • mroli
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    Very interesting as that would be a pretty effective "marginal gain" - learning how to breath most effectively and get the maximum oxygen to the lungs... Have no idea if this is all b*ll*cks, but it reads a good story...
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  • frenchfighter
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    Can someone explain why if this was a proven and effective way of increasing your performance why we dont watch a race and see the majority of riders looking like idiots with their head constantly bowed?
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  • tailwindhome
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    frenchfighter wrote:
    Can someone explain why if this was a proven and effective way of increasing your performance why we dont watch a race and see the majority of riders looking like idiots with their head constantly bowed?

    Because Sky are willing to do things which make them look like idiots?



    Seems like more of a habit than anything deliberately thought out
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  • ddraver
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    Same reason teams did nt warm down, same reasons they don't all use aero kit etc etc...

    I suspect that it's a bit of a mental thing as well
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  • Anonymous
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    frenchfighter wrote:
    Can someone explain why if this was a proven and effective way of increasing your performance why we dont watch a race and see the majority of riders looking like idiots with their head constantly bowed?

    Probably the same why different riders have different pedaling styles when riding?
  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    So that's where I'm going wrong. Looking down the road. Silly me
  • frenchfighter
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    I dont buy it. If Froome's 250rpm is so effective why don't some of the newer GC riders do this? Why don't they follow his diet to take them from chubby to skin and bone? There is so much at stake that people would try anything to give them an edge.
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  • Richmond Racer
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    Alright, it's a tic

    *shrugs*
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Alright, it's a tic

    *shrugs*

    Given that he was doing this as per Rich's post (assuming that is what he was doing and not just a one-off) then I suspect this is the only logical answer. Really unpleasant to watch though - human beings connect with people by looking at their face.
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  • Anonymous
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    frenchfighter wrote:
    I dont buy it. If Froome's 250rpm is so effective why don't some of the newer GC riders do this? Why don't they follow his diet to take them from chubby to skin and bone? There is so much at stake that people would try anything to give them an edge.

    What is this diet? When was he chubby? all I can see is he has dropped only a few Kg's since he first appeared. It's hardly revolutionary.
  • Richmond Racer
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    frenchfighter wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Alright, it's a tic

    *shrugs*

    Given that he was doing this as per Rich's post (assuming that is what he was doing and not just a one-off) then I suspect this is the only logical answer. Really unpleasant to watch though - human beings connect with people by looking at their face.


    Well, sounds like he's trying to conquer it. Bloody difficult thing to do though
  • Anonymous
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    Richmond Racer wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Alright, it's a tic

    *shrugs*

    Given that he was doing this as per Rich's post (assuming that is what he was doing and not just a one-off) then I suspect this is the only logical answer. Really unpleasant to watch though - human beings connect with people by looking at their face.


    Well, sounds like he's trying to conquer it. Bloody difficult thing to do though

    I like watching him, it makes him look like he is burying himself to win. Rather than just prancing about like some champions.

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