Chris Froome Lookign at Stems

Crozza

frenchfighter wrote:

So this weekend Contador was riding with his fans in his sportif. That is his fourth one.

Looking boss as per usual.

if that was cavendish we would be saying how heavy he looks

what do the sportives raise money for (genuine question)

frenchfighter wrote:

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 28m
Col de la Madone

Chris Froome 30:09
Richie Porte 30:24
Tom Danielson 30:24
Lance Armstrong 30:45
Tony Rominger 31:30
Tyler Hamilton 32:32

don't worry, I'm sure Alberto will soon be up there under De Jong's tutelage

adr82

frenchfighter wrote:

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 28m
Col de la Madone

Chris Froome 30:09
Richie Porte 30:24
Tom Danielson 30:24
Lance Armstrong 30:45
Tony Rominger 31:30
Tyler Hamilton 32:32

:roll:

Unless Sky have built a time machine and had Froome and Porte ride up there on the same days as the others, that set of "data" tells us nothing. And of course you know that, you're just being a tit as usual. Please stop posting unless you have something useful to say.

frenchfighter

^^ http://albertocontador.org/fundacion-contador/en

Pross

adr82 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 28m
Col de la Madone

Chris Froome 30:09
Richie Porte 30:24
Tom Danielson 30:24
Lance Armstrong 30:45
Tony Rominger 31:30
Tyler Hamilton 32:32

:roll:

Unless Sky have built a time machine and had Froome and Porte ride up there on the same days as the others, that set of "data" tells us nothing. And of course you know that, you're just being a tit as usual. Please stop posting unless you have something useful to say.

To be fair, it's becoming a two way street and makes the forum nearly unreadable at times!

RichN95.

frenchfighter wrote:

^^ http://albertocontador.org/fundacion-contador/en

Blimey, he's sponsored by the Mafia. I would have expected them to be Nibali fans.

mechanism

adr82 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 28m
Col de la Madone

Chris Froome 30:09
Richie Porte 30:24
Tom Danielson 30:24
Lance Armstrong 30:45
Tony Rominger 31:30
Tyler Hamilton 32:32

:roll:

Unless Sky have built a time machine and had Froome and Porte ride up there on the same days as the others, that set of "data" tells us nothing. And of course you know that, you're just being a tit as usual. Please stop posting unless you have something useful to say.

You're right, you can't really compare, but it is from a L'Equipe article published today (Froome and Porte's times are from 2013) - "I'm as fast as Armstrong and I don't have to feel guilty".

Macaloon

I think Alberto looks like Richie Porte in the shot with Schleck.

First it was no OOC testing on The Rock from Froome, now it's faster than known dopers. I like this taking on the 'accuendo' directly.

As for contrary opinions, we should bear in mind that The Clinic was probably once a forum for sharing ideas, however heretical.

RichN95.

frenchfighter wrote:

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 28m
Col de la Madone

Chris Froome 30:09
Richie Porte 30:24
Tom Danielson 30:24
Lance Armstrong 30:45
Tony Rominger 31:30
Tyler Hamilton 32:32

:roll:

I don't know what these times are meant to tell anyone. Basic common sense should make anyone wonder the same. Just looking at Porte and Danielson, nothing that either of these two have ever done in cycling has merited comparison to Armstrong's performances and they never will. That alone makes it meaningless.

Are they even taking the times from the same places?

Macaloon

RichN95 wrote:

I don't know what these times are meant to tell anyone. Basic common sense should make anyone wonder the same. Just looking at Porte and Danielson, nothing that either of these two have ever done in cycling has merited comparison to Armstrong's performances and they never will. That alone makes it meaningless.

Are they even taking the times from the same places?

They confirm the "beating times of known dopers" line, which was based on very thin foundations previously. It's still a pathetic argument but the hard of thinking will be swayed by the tribal shamen chanting the mantra. Accuracy is irrelevant for these purposes.

salsiccia1

RichN95 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 28m
Col de la Madone

Chris Froome 30:09
Richie Porte 30:24
Tom Danielson 30:24
Lance Armstrong 30:45
Tony Rominger 31:30
Tyler Hamilton 32:32

:roll:

I don't know what these times are meant to tell anyone. Basic common sense should make anyone wonder the same. Just looking at Porte and Danielson, nothing that either of these two have ever done in cycling has merited comparison to Armstrong's performances and they never will. That alone makes it meaningless.

Are they even taking the times from the same places?

Even if they are taken from the same place, they mean nothing. It's only a matter of time before the clean riders match doped riders of years ago. And weren't Porte's and Froomes's times taken on stage 9, the first serious climbing of the race, when Armstrong's was later on in the race?

Whatever, comparisons like this are all bum gravy.

Crozza

Macaloon wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

I don't know what these times are meant to tell anyone. Basic common sense should make anyone wonder the same. Just looking at Porte and Danielson, nothing that either of these two have ever done in cycling has merited comparison to Armstrong's performances and they never will. That alone makes it meaningless.

Are they even taking the times from the same places?

They confirm the "beating times of known dopers" line, which was based on very thin foundations previously. It's still a pathetic argument but the hard of thinking will be swayed by the tribal shamen chanting the mantra. Accuracy is irrelevant for these purposes.

if Contador beats Froome in the Tour, he would then be the guy that beat the guys that beat the guys that what done doping - correct?

Turfle

As contrived as the argument about times of dopers is, if he's beating Armstrong climbs clean then imo he absolutely shouldn't be quiet about it. It would be a good thing! Don't hide from it.

salsiccia1

Crozza wrote:

Macaloon wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

I don't know what these times are meant to tell anyone. Basic common sense should make anyone wonder the same. Just looking at Porte and Danielson, nothing that either of these two have ever done in cycling has merited comparison to Armstrong's performances and they never will. That alone makes it meaningless.

Are they even taking the times from the same places?

They confirm the "beating times of known dopers" line, which was based on very thin foundations previously. It's still a pathetic argument but the hard of thinking will be swayed by the tribal shamen chanting the mantra. Accuracy is irrelevant for these purposes.

if Contador beats Froome in the Tour, he would then be the guy that beat the guys that beat the guys that what done doping - correct?

Yes, but if he does that it's because he's a TRUE HEAVYWEIGHT.

above_the_cows

Oudezijds Achterburgwal - Mercatroplein, De Baarsjes

ATC Monday - 15.25 (Green lights most of the way)
ATC Tuesday - 20.42 (HEADWIND)
ATC Wednesday - 13.43 (Weeeee tailwind and no trams)
ATC Thursday - 1.23.45 (I had a Dutch lesson on the way home)
ATC Friday - 35.11 (I stopped off at Albert Heijn)


*These figures may be a complete figment of my imagination or some other suitably scientific testing method.

frenchfighter

Cant the OP correct the title? It is spelt incorrectly.

above_the_cows

Salsiccia1 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 28m
Col de la Madone

Chris Froome 30:09
Richie Porte 30:24
Tom Danielson 30:24
Lance Armstrong 30:45
Tony Rominger 31:30
Tyler Hamilton 32:32

:roll:

I don't know what these times are meant to tell anyone. Basic common sense should make anyone wonder the same. Just looking at Porte and Danielson, nothing that either of these two have ever done in cycling has merited comparison to Armstrong's performances and they never will. That alone makes it meaningless.

Are they even taking the times from the same places?

Even if they are taken from the same place, they mean nothing. It's only a matter of time before the clean riders match doped riders of years ago. And weren't Porte's and Froomes's times taken on stage 9, the first serious climbing of the race, when Armstrong's was later on in the race?

Whatever, comparisons like this are all bum gravy.

They're times from Col de la Madone which Sky riders based in Monaco/Nice use and US Postal/Ferrari clients used to use to train. This use of the same climb is proof alone that Sky are doping to some.

I am liking the term 'bum gravy' I must say, we use a similar but slightly more specific 'bum bisto' in our household.

mechanism

Above The Cows wrote:

Oudezijds Achterburgwal - Mercatroplein, De Baarsjes

ATC Monday - 15.25 (Green lights most of the way)
ATC Tuesday - 20.42 (HEADWIND)
ATC Wednesday - 13.43 (Weeeee tailwind and no trams)
ATC Thursday - 1.23.45 (I had a Dutch lesson on the way home)
ATC Friday - 35.11 (I stopped off at Albert Heijn)


*These figures may be a complete figment of my imagination or some other suitably scientific testing method.

Nothing suspicious at all:

salsiccia1

Above The Cows wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 28m
Col de la Madone

Chris Froome 30:09
Richie Porte 30:24
Tom Danielson 30:24
Lance Armstrong 30:45
Tony Rominger 31:30
Tyler Hamilton 32:32

:roll:

I don't know what these times are meant to tell anyone. Basic common sense should make anyone wonder the same. Just looking at Porte and Danielson, nothing that either of these two have ever done in cycling has merited comparison to Armstrong's performances and they never will. That alone makes it meaningless.

Are they even taking the times from the same places?

Even if they are taken from the same place, they mean nothing. It's only a matter of time before the clean riders match doped riders of years ago. And weren't Porte's and Froomes's times taken on stage 9, the first serious climbing of the race, when Armstrong's was later on in the race?

Whatever, comparisons like this are all bum gravy.

They're times from Col de la Madone which Sky riders based in Monaco/Nice use and US Postal/Ferrari clients used to use to train. This use of the same climb is proof alone that Sky are doping to some.

I am liking the term 'bum gravy' I must say, we use a similar but slightly more specific 'bum bisto' in our household.

My mistake, apologies. For some reason I'm thinking of Ax 3 Domaines. 'All the right letters, but not necessarily in the right order'.

above_the_cows

Salsiccia1 wrote:

My mistake, apologies. For some reason I'm thinking of Ax 3 Domaines. 'All the right letters, but not necessarily in the right order'.

To be fair it doesn't matter which climb they're taken from, your conclusion of them being bum gravy would be right.

tuneskyline

Back on topic

RonB

Good effort Tune, but if things should veer off course again, could I ask that you use one of your excellent graphs to clear things up?

ddraver

I ve heard Girth is more important for most

ContrelaMontre

ddraver wrote:

I ve heard Girth is more important for most

Nothing like an oversized stem.

tuneskyline

RonB wrote:

Good effort Tune, but if things should veer off course again, could I ask that you use one of your excellent graphs to clear things up?

I have spent most of the day [7 mins ] working on this one. Just never got it finished in time. Very Sorry RonB
But even though It's a bit late it does clear things up.

ddraver

Michelle Cound ‏@michellecound
Would love to know what Quintana’s time would be up the Madone… up to the challenge @NairoQuinCo ??


ohhhhhhhh Michelle....just....you know....

RonB

Just the ticket. Thanks. I'm told that if you make this up with wire and pins you get a pretty good rendition of, L-R Amériques by Edgard Varèse or N-S Sheriff Fatman by Carter USM.

thomthom

That thing has two faces.

ddraver

I dunno, I'm not sure it helps but she rarely says something that I disagree with really...

tailwindhome

madasahattersley wrote:

I can just imagine Froome facepalming every time his missus starts gobbing off over sensitive and controversial issues

Apparently I've been blocked by Mrs Froome.

Was it something I said?

frenchfighter

ddraver wrote:

Michelle Cound ‏@michellecound
Would love to know what Quintana’s time would be up the Madone… up to the challenge @NairoQuinCo ??


ohhhhhhhh Michelle....just....you know....

She is twice his age but has less than half his maturity.