Critérium International 2013 - May contain spoilers

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  • Squaggles
    Squaggles Posts: 875
    It just looks like some people don't like riders from Sky winning races
    The UCI are Clowns and Fools
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Squaggles wrote:
    It just looks like some people don't like riders from Sky winning races

    I think you have it. You can almost picture it "oh **** a Sky rider has just won with a well timed attack from a long way out. He didn't have a train or anything - what can I do to demean this achievment? Oh, he refused to let someone suck his wheel whilst recovering from bridging a gap that'll do"
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Pross wrote:
    But a True Champion (let's say Bertie for the sake of argument) would have said "OK then, sit on my wheel for a while to recover and then we can race it out man to man once you feel better".

    Honestly, you couldn't make up some of the complaints from posters on here. Moaning for the last few seasons on how no-one has the balls to attack more than 1 or 2km from the finish and then when someone does (presumably because the person is in a black and turquoise kit) moaning that they didn't take a passenger with them :roll:

    Proper little Sky fan boy aren't you. You should ask them for a signed jersey then ride around on your club with it on.

    Thanks for your contributions.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Genuine Point = Sky fan boi now....
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    But a True Champion (let's say Bertie for the sake of argument) would have said "OK then, sit on my wheel for a while to recover and then we can race it out man to man once you feel better".

    Honestly, you couldn't make up some of the complaints from posters on here. Moaning for the last few seasons on how no-one has the balls to attack more than 1 or 2km from the finish and then when someone does (presumably because the person is in a black and turquoise kit) moaning that they didn't take a passenger with them :roll:

    Proper little Sky fan boy aren't you. You should ask them for a signed jersey then ride around on your club with it on.

    Thanks for your contributions.

    Or perhaps trying to add balance. I don't have favoured teams and to be honest I don't like Froome. I was much happier seeing Dan Martin win than I would have been seeing Wiggins take the race. You just come across as seriously bitter with Sky to the point that you look for something to criticise when they produce exactly the sort of ride you usually drool over. Your dislike for the brand seems to be clouding your ability to assess a performance on its merit.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    I am actually quite clear in my opinions of racing. And even if someone had an opinion you couldn't quantify that doesn't matter as that is not why we watch this sport.

    But glad you like the photos. I would post some from this stage but I'll leave that up to the Sky lovers.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • cyclingsheep
    cyclingsheep Posts: 640
    edited March 2013
    While I think the tactics (if they were in fact discussed before hand as Porte said they were) were sound and gave Sky a great result, I just can't warm to Froome. It was a great ride from him but it smacked a little of spoilt child much like the last mountain stage in the TdF last year. When he should maybe have been riding for the Yellow jersey wearer he clearly wanted (and was good enough) to ride away but that doesn't make him a team player in my book and in that respect I wonder if he'll get the same support from his team mates as Wiggo did?
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    inseine wrote:
    JTL has already proved that he can cut the mustard (Worlds anyone?) and there'd be loads of name calling if he came into the Pro Tour ranks kicking everyones backside. I think he'll be fine when the time comes.

    Was going to bring this up in the face of all the "oh, looks like JTL can't cut it at this level" remarks.

    He was five seconds behind Gilbert (and ahead of people like Nibali, Gerrans, and J-Rod) after 6 hours of hard racing.

    I don't know what kind of shape he'll be in for the Ardennes classics but if he doesn't show well in them it won't be because he hasn't got the talent to ride at this level.
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Come on, somebody do us all a favour and start a Sky chat thread.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    wombly knees wrote:
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    More on the little conversation towards the end.

    Alexandre Mignot ‏@AlexandreMignot 1h
    Péraud : « I told Froome that I couldn't take a relay at this moment, and he told me : Ok, well, you'll never take a relay. Good bye »
    Sounds like a dialogue from a cheap action/porn film.

    Anyway, mountain out of molehill stuff. When's Porte going to be a GT leader then?


    Next year...I trust and hope. Surdave's probably having to make some kind of early commitment to it now as part of Porte's new contract negotiations. I think the Columbian duo will get the nod for the Vuelta this year, after helping Wiggins at the Giro (I think). Porte was shattered at last year's Vuelta after helping Wiggins at the Tour, and only really recovered by the penultimate stage.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Come on, somebody do us all a favour and start a Sky chat thread.

    http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=17412
    Contador is the Greatest
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    frenchfighter wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Come on, somebody do us all a favour and start a Sky chat thread.

    http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=17412

    Frenchie - the other day you did say you were not going to talk about Sky on race threads again...
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    frenchfighter wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Come on, somebody do us all a favour and start a Sky chat thread.

    http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=17412

    Luckily I looked at that link before I clicked on it :wink:

    I do get frustrated with this forum sometimes, but i've picked things out of my nose with more intelligence than your average CN poster.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    inkyfingers wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Come on, somebody do us all a favour and start a Sky chat thread.

    http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=17412

    Luckily I looked at that link before I clicked on it :wink:

    I do get frustrated with this forum sometimes, but i've picked things out of my nose with more intelligence than your average CN poster.

    Irritates me that the likes of Vaughters use CN as a platform for anti-doping discussion too - do these people not know any better? :evil:
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Even after we sung the praises of the BR forum to Mr Vaughter's he still hasn't paid us a visit, bloody rude if you ask me. :wink:

    Just had a random thought, what would happen if one day Garmin and Sky were to merge... Festinagirl's head might actually explode.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Even after we sung the praises of the BR forum to Mr Vaughter's he still hasn't paid us a visit, bloody rude if you ask me. :wink:

    Just had a random thought, what would happen if one day Garmin and Sky were to merge... Festinagirl's head might actually explode.

    :wink:

    FG was quite complimentary of Froomes win yesterday, even hinted that she was changing her mind about Sky...
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  • wombly_knees
    wombly_knees Posts: 657
    edited March 2013
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    wombly knees wrote:
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    More on the little conversation towards the end.

    Alexandre Mignot ‏@AlexandreMignot 1h
    Péraud : « I told Froome that I couldn't take a relay at this moment, and he told me : Ok, well, you'll never take a relay. Good bye »
    Sounds like a dialogue from a cheap action/porn film.

    Anyway, mountain out of molehill stuff. When's Porte going to be a GT leader then?


    Next year...I trust and hope. Surdave's probably having to make some kind of early commitment to it now as part of Porte's new contract negotiations. I think the Columbian duo will get the nod for the Vuelta this year, after helping Wiggins at the Giro (I think). Porte was shattered at last year's Vuelta after helping Wiggins at the Tour, and only really recovered by the penultimate stage.
    Hopefully, would be grouse as if he could race for himself. From an outsider's pov, he seems genuinely content at Sky. Also wonder which it will be. Should be the Giro but would depend on how Wiggins goes this year, I guess, or if Froome pulls a Wiggins and targets it.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Come on, somebody do us all a favour and start a Sky chat thread.

    http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=17412

    Frenchie - the other day you did say you were not going to talk about Sky on race threads again...

    Check out my posts from about page 5 or so when it started and ask yourself whether I have said anything inflammatory? I described the race fairly impartially, posted some quotes about the race, then responded a little about Froome's comments. There was a lot of goading on this thread but I haven't responded to it and played the other side and stayed calm in my other responses. I could have though and have plenty other things to say and post about the subject but have refrained from doing so.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Even after we sung the praises of the BR forum to Mr Vaughter's he still hasn't paid us a visit, bloody rude if you ask me. :wink:

    Just had a random thought, what would happen if one day Garmin and Sky were to merge... Festinagirl's head might actually explode.

    :wink:

    FG was quite complimentary of Froomes win yesterday, even hinted that she was changing her mind about Sky...

    I know, I nearly choked on my real ale.

    Chris Froome can finally sleep at night, now he has her stamp of approval. Though at the moment he might have better things to do in bed than sleep.

    Sorry, having moaned about Sky chit chat I have now been lured into it by the usual BR bad influences, be gone you demons!
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    oh, inky, I really really didnt want to have any vision that concerns Froome and bed...and now I'm wondering whether he takes off those bloody white glasses that make him look like a bug
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Where does this sit on the chipper scale??
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  • vino2012
    vino2012 Posts: 114
    Frenchfighter gets WAY too much attention on these forums, all noise but very little substance to what he says.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Where does this sit on the chipper scale??

    Just above a chipper

    Last person to win CI and the Tour in same year? Bernard Hinault
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    vino2012 wrote:
    Frenchfighter gets WAY too much attention on these forums, all noise but very little substance to what he says.

    You have WAY too many accounts. Was your old one banned?
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  • mikenetic
    mikenetic Posts: 486
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Even after we sung the praises of the BR forum to Mr Vaughter's he still hasn't paid us a visit, bloody rude if you ask me. :wink:

    Just had a random thought, what would happen if one day Garmin and Sky were to merge... Festinagirl's head might actually explode.

    :wink:

    FG was quite complimentary of Froomes win yesterday, even hinted that she was changing her mind about Sky...

    Her posts were loaded to the hilt with sarcasm. I've unfollowed the Twaliban crowd, and my enjoyment of the sport and social media in general has increased as a result.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I should apologise to the twitter sphere for no longer providing tweets with enough citrussy acid to cut through the general fatty guff you get on there....








    ;-)
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  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    vino2012 wrote:
    Frenchfighter gets WAY too much attention on these forums, all noise but very little substance to what he says.

    I may disagree with what Frenchie says sometimes, and his views on sky are rather different to mine... But his posts are always interesting and his pictures are always welcome in breaking up long patches of text.
    You live and learn. At any rate, you live
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    mikenetic wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Even after we sung the praises of the BR forum to Mr Vaughter's he still hasn't paid us a visit, bloody rude if you ask me. :wink:

    Just had a random thought, what would happen if one day Garmin and Sky were to merge... Festinagirl's head might actually explode.

    :wink:

    FG was quite complimentary of Froomes win yesterday, even hinted that she was changing her mind about Sky...

    Her posts were loaded to the hilt with sarcasm. I've unfollowed the Twaliban crowd, and my enjoyment of the sport and social media in general has increased as a result.

    In the past they have been, I think you mis-read it on this occasion though.
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  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    iainf72 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Where does this sit on the chipper scale??

    Just above a chipper

    Last person to win CI and the Tour in same year? Bernard Hinault

    Yeah, i'm not sure how good a gauge it is, but the list of winners since it went "International" is pretty distinguished.

    This years field wasn't that stellar though.
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • roypsb
    roypsb Posts: 309
    Please stop trying to reason with FF. He doesn't like Sky for some reason - we get it. It's beyond boring now.

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