Womens Cycling

davidof · April 2013

For anyone who missed the Classica Clittà di Padova 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmkTeiz3bl0g

Le Commentateur · April 2013

1st place woman at Fleche Wallonne: €1,128 (The men’s winner gets €16,000).

1st place woman at New York Gran Fondo: $8,000 bike.

Le Commentateur · April 2013

1 min 44 sec of Flèche Wallonne highlights:

http://www.sporza.be/cm/sporza/videozon ... ng_vrouwen

frenchfighter · April 2013

A few interviews and limited coverage from Fleche:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpOV9uprtaw

RonB · April 2013

Anyone following the Omloop van Borsele? I think there is a junior event going on as well which starts today.
Can't sort any links at the moment though!

davidof · April 2013

Marion Rousse takes you for a trip round Flanders

http://www.fansofflanders.be/Channels/E ... rionRousse

frenchfighter · May 2013

Remember her?

Well she just one her first race at the Tour of Chongming Island

davidof · May 2013

beh voila: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsl2hs3tfik - stage 1

Le Commentateur · May 2013

Already a star in China.

http://instagram.com/p/ZIAPyiR0sb/#

Le Commentateur · May 2013

Blimey! :shock:

http://instagram.com/p/VtwbOax0i8/

above_the_cows · May 2013

Le Commentateur wrote:

Blimey! :shock:

http://instagram.com/p/VtwbOax0i8/

What are we supposed to be looking at? The fact that it is sunny? I'd be shocked by some sun too!

I will say that she has quite short bibs (as evidenced by photos on previous page) as there is no tan line. I am jealous.

Very pleased for her recent win.

davidof · May 2013

Gawd knows why these are so hard to find

Stage1
http://youtu.be/nsl2hs3tfik
Stage 2
http://youtu.be/WL-QYFhXul0 - Lucy, you from UK, you like rain.

Stage 3
http://youtu.be/8DGOZCjn1Us

BTW Emma Pooley 3rd overall in the GRACIA - ORLOVÁ

http://www.graciaorlova.cz/?lng=en

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiA5hrCdMao

frenchfighter · May 2013

Le Commentateur wrote:

Blimey! :shock:

http://instagram.com/p/VtwbOax0i8/

Lovely legs.

rob churchill · May 2013

There's a little spat developing between Lizzie Armitstead and Jonathan Vaughters on twitter right now.

Got me wondering, when Nicole Cooke talked about the difficulties she'd had getting a fair deal or even getting her wages from several of the teams she'd ridden for, did she have Vaughters' Garmin women's team in mind? I know Armitstead rode for the same team.

Richmond Racer · May 2013

rob churchill wrote:

There's a little spat developing between Lizzie Armitstead and Jonathan Vaughters on twitter right now.

Got me wondering, when Nicole Cooke talked about the difficulties she'd had getting a fair deal or even getting her wages from several of the teams she'd ridden for, did she have Vaughters' Garmin women's team in mind? I know Armitstead rode for the same team.

Nicole never rode for Vaughters. Lizzie Armitsted and Emma Pooley rode for Cervelo/Garmin-Cervelo for a couple of years till Vaughters ended the team late in 2011, saying that it was no longer financially viable to run it. Emma Pooley in particular has been very vocal about Vaughters not having given a stuff about the womens team. I dont know about wages, but as I mentioned on the Giro St 8 thread, things still rankle Pooley like Vaughters never having provided a power meter she was promised as part of her Cervelo contract - things like that.

LeicesterLad · May 2013

Le Commentateur wrote:

Blimey! :shock:

http://instagram.com/p/VtwbOax0i8/

I know Lucy, and it's a pleasure. (she kicks my ass on a bike btw)

above_the_cows · May 2013

Richmond Racer wrote:

things still rankle Pooley like Vaughters never having provided a power meter she was promised as part of her Cervelo contract - things like that.

She wasn't given a power meter? WTF? I mean really WTF? This sort of sh*t just makes me so angry. Especially as JV tries to construct this image as the 'progressive' man of the sport. :evil:

:x

rob churchill · May 2013

Richmond Racer wrote:

rob churchill wrote:

There's a little spat developing between Lizzie Armitstead and Jonathan Vaughters on twitter right now.

Got me wondering, when Nicole Cooke talked about the difficulties she'd had getting a fair deal or even getting her wages from several of the teams she'd ridden for, did she have Vaughters' Garmin women's team in mind? I know Armitstead rode for the same team.

Nicole never rode for Vaughters. Lizzie Armitsted and Emma Pooley rode for Cervelo/Garmin-Cervelo for a couple of years till Vaughters ended the team late in 2011, saying that it was no longer financially viable to run it. Emma Pooley in particular has been very vocal about Vaughters not having given a stuff about the womens team. I dont know about wages, but as I mentioned on the Giro St 8 thread, things still rankle Pooley like Vaughters never having provided a power meter she was promised as part of her Cervelo contract - things like that.

Above The Cows wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

things still rankle Pooley like Vaughters never having provided a power meter she was promised as part of her Cervelo contract - things like that.

She wasn't given a power meter? WTF? I mean really WTF? This sort of sh*t just makes me so angry. Especially as JV tries to construct this image as the 'progressive' man of the sport. :evil: :x

I remember Emma mentioning the power meter in a magazine interview recently. I suspected there might be some history of this sort with Vaughters and a few others in women's cycling.

Richmond Racer · May 2013

All this kind of second-class treatment of women pro riders was behind Rochelle Gilmoure's dream of setting up a womens team that would provide professional support for the riders, a proper salary etc - because Gilmoure herself had so many bad experiences on teams.

And that's what she's gone and done with Wiggle-Honda.

jibberjim · May 2013

Richmond Racer wrote:

And that's what she's gone and done with Wiggle-Honda.

Which then lets itself down by having its riders race UK chippers...

salsiccia1 · May 2013

Above The Cows wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

things still rankle Pooley like Vaughters never having provided a power meter she was promised as part of her Cervelo contract - things like that.

She wasn't given a power meter? WTF? I mean really WTF? This sort of sh*t just makes me so angry. Especially as JV tries to construct this image as the 'progressive' man of the sport. :evil: :x

Quite. That sort of thing boils my piss.

rob churchill · May 2013

jibberjim wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

And that's what she's gone and done with Wiggle-Honda.

Which then lets itself down by having its riders race UK chippers...

What should they be racing? half this thread has been about the lack of quality womens's races, properly supported and covered.

Le Commentateur · May 2013

jibberjim wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

And that's what she's gone and done with Wiggle-Honda.

Which then lets itself down by having its riders race UK chippers...

Since they're not in the team that raced in China last week, what are they supposed to do, just sit around and await selection for the next big event? Chipper = training race. Plus their presence at these UK "chipper" races creates interest at grassroots level, so they are kind of putting something into the effort to get more UK women on bikes and racing bikes.

jibberjim · May 2013

rob churchill wrote:

What should they be racing? half this thread has been about the lack of quality womens's races, properly supported and covered.

Pro races... The same as you don't expect Dowsett to turn up to a Regional A race, in Men's racing that is of course banned, but it's fine for women? You don't make a race "quality" by entering one rider of a completely different ability and support to everyone else in the field, that's likely to do more to discourage racing... it turns a race into a TT, the whole point of categorizing races is defeated.

Richmond Racer · May 2013

jibberjim wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

And that's what she's gone and done with Wiggle-Honda.

Which then lets itself down by having its riders race UK chippers...[/quote

Which as I'm sure you know is to allow the track trio of King, Trott and Rowsell to get as much road race and TT experience as possible to add to their European race program for the team. As Wiggle-Honda have also been riding races such as Tour of Qatar, Flanders, as well as a lot of stage races and 1 dayers, and now the UCI World Cup races, with a good degree of success, I don't think that the Wiggle-Honda is getting sullied by the GB girls riding some chippers.

Alex Dowsett regularly rides TTs here in his team kit - think he's sullying the name of Movistar?

Le Commentateur · May 2013

I know a number of the women who were at the event with Laura Trott today; from what I've heard none of them were discouraged by her being there.

Emma Trott raced against the men in the 2/3/4 race anyway. – http://www.maphotography.co.uk/images/E ... 5-2013.jpg

Richmond Racer · May 2013

A mate of mine was racing at Crystal Palace a couple of weeks ago when Jo Rowsell was also racing. She got a massive cheer from everyone - none of the other riders were annoyed at all, they got a bit of a buzz from her being there.

jibberjim · May 2013

Richmond Racer wrote:

A mate of mine was racing at Crystal Palace a couple of weeks ago when Jo Rowsell was also racing. She got a massive cheer from everyone - none of the other riders were annoyed at all, they got a bit of a buzz from her being there.

She raced with the men... She very specifically didn't do the womens race (which isn't that unusual for strong women on that circuit) and that is exactly the sort of thing which is to be encouraged, finding a race which is of an appropriate category - and due to the power curve differences that is 2/3/4 men unless there's a mountain...

above_the_cows · May 2013

jibberjim wrote:

rob churchill wrote:

What should they be racing? half this thread has been about the lack of quality womens's races, properly supported and covered.

Pro races... The same as you don't expect Dowsett to turn up to a Regional A race, in Men's racing that is of course banned, but it's fine for women? You don't make a race "quality" by entering one rider of a completely different ability and support to everyone else in the field, that's likely to do more to discourage racing... it turns a race into a TT, the whole point of categorizing races is defeated.

Pro-races? Yes because there are so many of them. Are the women supposed to sit around and wait for someone to maybe, possibly put on a pro-race for them? Or enter what races they can?

Honestly women cyclists can't win. There aren't enough top level races for them but when they enter other races they get criticized.

And I'm not sure it would discourage people actually. It would inspire me. Having competed in a different sport riding something other than a bike where I competed and sometimes beat Olympic medal winners it can be great for motivation.

Right I'm off out to ride my bike.

Pross · May 2013

jibberjim wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

And that's what she's gone and done with Wiggle-Honda.

Which then lets itself down by having its riders race UK chippers...

Oi, the race Dani King rode last Sunday wasn't a chipper. It was a brilliantly organised Regional A that I just happened to organise . I was supposed to race her yesterday but I cried off. Incidentally she was right up there in the sprint in both races against some good 2nd cat men. I know with my race she was a late entry as she was supposed to have been racing in Belgium but the race was cancelled so it sounds like the problem for them might just be a lack of continental racing?

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