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  • Brian Cookson: “I’d like to say something about women’s cycling. I think this is one area that the UCI has really underperformed on. Some of us have been trying to push as much as we can. I am very pleased that we have now got a female member of the management committee, Tracey Gaudry, an excellent appointment to recruitment to the management committee.

    What I want to do is to really take that forward. […] Part of my manifesto is to have a women’s commission, where we can really put some energy and commitment behind this. At the moment it is a third of one person’s job at the UCI to develop all aspects of women’s cycling all around the world.

    That is clearly inadequate. But there is massive amounts of potential out there.

    One of the key things we can do straight away is put in a television highlights package for the women’s road World Cup. We have looked at that, costed that — I think an hour long package is quite achievement. We can give that away to broadcasters, actually, as a way of stimulating interest in the sport.”


    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15528 ... z2fuVvgb2x
  • After winning gold in the Team Time Trial on Sunday Katie Coldclough announces her retirement, aged 23. Saturday's road race will be her last as a pro.
  • That is a shame. Does she say why?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • That is a shame. Does she say why?


    She says that cycling's all she's ever known and wants to try something different now, though not sure what.
  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    MrTapir wrote:
    Interesting. Sounds to me that they just wanted a Trott to win as she is a public figure. Nice win by Barnes.

    Hannah Barnes had a pretty nasty crash at the Woking tour series race before getting back up and winning it, she is pretty tough. http://www.tourseries.co.uk/news/4725.php#.UbnBT4HRcSU

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    Nasty and still smiling...
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    Women's ToB

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/24471949

    BBC thought it important enough to put link on their main news page
  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    What I don't understand is that it's 2.1 - the third teir

    Really ??

    How many races are there that are going to be much bigger than this ? Are these classifications absolute then rather than relative to each other in Women's racing ? It seems (at the moment anyhow) a bit disengenous for the UCI to be rating women's races in the same manner as the men's tour
  • keyser__soze
    keyser__soze Posts: 2,067
    dsoutar wrote:
    What I don't understand is that it's 2.1 - the third teir

    Really ??

    How many races are there that are going to be much bigger than this ? Are these classifications absolute then rather than relative to each other in Women's racing ? It seems (at the moment anyhow) a bit disengenous for the UCI to be rating women's races in the same manner as the men's tour

    .1 is effectively top-tier for the women. There're no HC races in the calendar for women next year and no women's world tour.
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  • Good interview with Above The Cows' crush, Emma Pooley :wink:

    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15783 ... -2014.aspx
  • Ooo nice! :D
    Correlation is not causation.
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    There's a good few months to wait now for next season, and any confirmation on her potential at pro level, but it's good to see Hannah Barnes has got herself a place on an ambitious team for 2014...
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/unitedhealthcare-pro-cycling-team-completes-womens-team-roster
    I hope their programme gives her a chance to compete with the elite - she really is something special.

    She's a better sprinter than any of the well-feted Team GB track stars, IMO (who she single-handedly beat at the London Nocturne); and at the Ras na mBan in Ireland, was climbing with the best of them...

    Such has been her domination of domestic racing this year - I laughed when I overheard one of the managers during a team pep-talk prior to the women's race (that preceeded the men's on the last stage of the Tour of Britain) around Westminster. When one of his riders asked who was their team's main contender for a sprint, he sombrely shook his head and said "no - don't take it to a sprint... Do everything you all can to avoid a sprint. You've got to try and drop her...".
    Did it work? Did it f@ck…
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  • She's a talent, and it'll be interesting to see how she does riding a varied race programme rather than predominantly UK crits (and the mens UHC team tend to dominate the US crits).

    But just to be pedantic (as is my wont) to say she beat everyone single-handed is a bit of a stretch - MG Maxifuel had a team of at least 6 at the Nocturne...

    Trott went on to win the 'rematch' at the RideLondon GP. King bested her in the womens Milk Race.

    Leaving aside the Nats - she didnt shine on the Glasgow course - the three of them seem to be honours-even when it comes to the few races in GB this year that King and Trott have ridden...non?
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Trott beat her in the rematch but I seem to remember thinking team support played a part that day - haven't checked back so could be wrong. Be interesting to see how they both progress but not having a big interest in track I'm more keen for someone like Barnes or Lucy Garner to really kick on.
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  • Trott beat her in the rematch but I seem to remember thinking team support played a part that day - haven't checked back so could be wrong. Be interesting to see how they both progress but not having a big interest in track I'm more keen for someone like Barnes or Lucy Garner to really kick on.


    The team sizes were around the same, give or take maybe 1 rider, but the Wiggle Honda squad undeniably/understandably higher level than the MG Maxifuel girls, and they pretty much had that race under control throughout.

    The thing is that the GB trackies are really doing the road season to build up their endurance etc, so the road is secondary importance to them - which is why they were mainly used to support Bronzini etc this year. So yeah, it's more interesting to see how the roadies develop.
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    But just to be pedantic (as is my wont) to say she beat everyone single-handed is a bit of a stretch - MG Maxifuel had a team of at least 6 at the Nocturne...

    Trott went on to win the 'rematch' at the RideLondon GP. King bested her in the womens Milk Race.

    Leaving aside the Nats - she didnt shine on the Glasgow course - the three of them seem to be honours-even when it comes to the few races in GB this year that King and Trott have ridden...non?

    Give Barnes the same level of lead-out support, and my money's on her winning 4 out of 5 sprints against Trott… (and I think Trott is an amazing rider).
    I didn't say she "beat everyone single-handed" - just the Olympic trio - her team mates were nowhere to be seen at the front of that race - Barnes was essentially on her own against Trott, King and Rowsell (Wiggle-Honda): that's quite some trio to thwart.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    WestminsterGP2013-Barnes-wins-4.jpg

    One of our ladies there 2nd from left doing the usual sterling job of getting high placed finishes in all the major domestic women's races (plus the Ras na Mban where they have excelled in the last 3 years). I suspect there are a few teams with much bigger budgets that would like as much success :D
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    One thing I don't understand is, that there are all these companies in the City of London, large corporates who spend a lot of money on sponsorship/advertising etc etc. They also have these initiatives to promote women - there is the 30% club, a move to get 30% women on boards on companies, women's groups, mentoring programmes etc etc. Why is it that none of them think that it would be a good idea to put (comparatively to men's racing) a very little cash behind a cycling team with racers like Barnes in it and provide a decent role model for women generally?

    I have a daughter and want her to have role models like Rowsell/Pooley/Barnes/Wyman/King/James etc rather than Cyrus/Rhianna etc etc...
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Pross wrote:
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    WestminsterGP2013-Barnes-wins-4.jpg

    One of our ladies there 2nd from left doing the usual sterling job of getting high placed finishes in all the major domestic women's races (plus the Ras na Mban where they have excelled in the last 3 years). I suspect there are a few teams with much bigger budgets that would like as much success :D


    Damn straight!
    As someone who was in the support car for the Abergavenny team at the Ras, I can vouch for that.


    The other thing I learned is that Rás is pronounced "ross", not "rass"...
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    mroli wrote:
    One thing I don't understand is, that there are all these companies in the City of London, large corporates who spend a lot of money on sponsorship/advertising etc etc…
    Why is it that none of them think that it would be a good idea to put (comparatively to men's racing) a very little cash behind a cycling team with racers like Barnes in it and provide a decent role model for women generally?

    I have a daughter and want her to have role models like Rowsell/Pooley/Barnes/Wyman/King/James etc rather than Cyrus/Rhianna etc etc...

    Understandable frustration. All this talk of "entrepreneurial spirit" - yet myopic conservatism seems to rule the roost. I'm sure it will happen eventually - it just always takes longer (and not always by a direct route; and not necessarily in a way that suits the majority) than is bearable for a lot of people. You only have to listen to the likes of Cooke and Pooley - let alone the scores of other talented women who will come and go before things move to a more sustainable platform.

    In the meantime, just having any budding female cyclists walk amongst the stars at the start/finish of a race is a great way to have them witness that having nice hair and pretty nails means nothing in the brutality of competition...
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    ....nice hair and pretty nails means nothing in the brutality of competition...

    I dunno about that
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    Damn straight!
    As someone who was in the support car for the Abergavenny team at the Ras, I can vouch for that.


    The other thing I learned is that Rás is pronounced "ross", not "rass"...

    How did you end up in there? Stuck with Terry for a few days and still sane(ish) :shock:
  • rayjay
    rayjay Posts: 1,384
    mroli wrote:
    One thing I don't understand is, that there are all these companies in the City of London, large corporates who spend a lot of money on sponsorship/advertising etc etc. They also have these initiatives to promote women - there is the 30% club, a move to get 30% women on boards on companies, women's groups, mentoring programmes etc etc. Why is it that none of them think that it would be a good idea to put (comparatively to men's racing) a very little cash behind a cycling team with racers like Barnes in it and provide a decent role model for women generally?

    I have a daughter and want her to have role models like Rowsell/Pooley/Barnes/Wyman/King/James etc rather than Cyrus/Rhianna etc etc...


    Yes but who can handle a hoover better :lol::lol::lol:
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Pross wrote:
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    Damn straight!
    As someone who was in the support car for the Abergavenny team at the Ras, I can vouch for that.


    The other thing I learned is that Rás is pronounced "ross", not "rass"...

    How did you end up in there? Stuck with Terry for a few days and still sane(ish) :shock:

    Tell me about it.
    Guinness, is the simple answer.

    Poor Mike and Sonia Grinzcer (parents of Abergavenny name-to-watch, Natalie) had less success in avoiding being stuck in the car with Terry… (I found another support vehicle to drive).
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Pross wrote:
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    WestminsterGP2013-Barnes-wins-4.jpg

    One of our ladies there 2nd from left doing the usual sterling job of getting high placed finishes in all the major domestic women's races (plus the Ras na Mban where they have excelled in the last 3 years). I suspect there are a few teams with much bigger budgets that would like as much success :D

    Is that Massey?


    Nope - Lowri Bunn.
    Sadly, Massey's left for the new big kid on the block on the domestic women's scene - Epic Cycles-Scott Contessa...
  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    rayjay wrote:
    mroli wrote:
    One thing I don't understand is, that there are all these companies in the City of London, large corporates who spend a lot of money on sponsorship/advertising etc etc. They also have these initiatives to promote women - there is the 30% club, a move to get 30% women on boards on companies, women's groups, mentoring programmes etc etc. Why is it that none of them think that it would be a good idea to put (comparatively to men's racing) a very little cash behind a cycling team with racers like Barnes in it and provide a decent role model for women generally?

    I have a daughter and want her to have role models like Rowsell/Pooley/Barnes/Wyman/King/James etc rather than Cyrus/Rhianna etc etc...


    Yes but who can handle a hoover better :lol::lol::lol:
    :roll:
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  • mroli wrote:
    One thing I don't understand is, that there are all these companies in the City of London, large corporates who spend a lot of money on sponsorship/advertising etc etc. They also have these initiatives to promote women - there is the 30% club, a move to get 30% women on boards on companies, women's groups, mentoring programmes etc etc. Why is it that none of them think that it would be a good idea to put (comparatively to men's racing) a very little cash behind a cycling team with racers like Barnes in it and provide a decent role model for women generally?

    I have a daughter and want her to have role models like Rowsell/Pooley/Barnes/Wyman/King/James etc rather than Cyrus/Rhianna etc etc...


    There seems to be more support going into womens teams in the UK next year than there does mens (allowing for NFTO to be a straight swap for UKYouth). All at Conti level, mind you. But then there's still only one British ProTour team and zero ProConti teams (OK, a half, given the Endura sponsorship)

    OCDP and Pross are more knowledgable than me about the scene though, and might have a different view...
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    WestminsterGP2013-Barnes-wins-4.jpg

    One of our ladies there 2nd from left doing the usual sterling job of getting high placed finishes in all the major domestic women's races (plus the Ras na Mban where they have excelled in the last 3 years). I suspect there are a few teams with much bigger budgets that would like as much success :D

    Is that Massey?


    Nope - Lowri Bunn.
    Sadly, Massey's left for the new big kid on the block on the domestic women's scene - Epic Cycles-Scott Contessa...

    Laura had an excellent season. Lowri is an excellent rider, her first club ride was my first one back after a 12 year beak and by the end of that season she was getting national level wins! Shame she lost a big chunk of this season but hopefully she'll be back pushing for a Commonwealth Games place next year.
  • Ed-tron
    Ed-tron Posts: 165
    From what I remember (FWIR...?), re the RideLondon Womens GP, from the highlights and what I saw stood outside Horseguards Parade watching it, Barnes did have to shut down a lot of the Wiggle moves off the front herself. Yet she was still there in the mix at the end despite Danni King giving Trott a leadout.

    Anyway, she's a talent, has a good sprint and Im sure is super motivated to make the most of this opportunity. Will be great to follow how it goes for her.
  • Interview with Emma Pooley about next year's plans: http://www.lottobelisol.be/en/the-signi ... y-1554.htm

    Hopes to be racing for another 3 years.