Seemingly trivial things that cheer you up

pblakeney

pinno said:

ddraver said:

I just can't agree with you there RJ...

Agreed. M&S food is good but a ready meal? No ta.
I want to know what I am eating.

Interesting. If you go to an average pub for an average pub meal would you know the difference between their usual fare and an M&S ready meal? I always think it's the same.

pinno

pblakeney said:

pinno said:

ddraver said:

I just can't agree with you there RJ...

Agreed. M&S food is good but a ready meal? No ta.
I want to know what I am eating.

Interesting. If you go to an average pub for an average pub meal would you know the difference between their usual fare and an M&S ready meal? I always think it's the same.

Perhaps not. Interesting point.
Surely (and it's my assumption), the ready meal contains artificial additives and preservatives in a way that the pub meal wouldn't.

briantrumpet

pinno said:

pblakeney said:

pinno said:

ddraver said:

I just can't agree with you there RJ...

Agreed. M&S food is good but a ready meal? No ta.
I want to know what I am eating.

Interesting. If you go to an average pub for an average pub meal would you know the difference between their usual fare and an M&S ready meal? I always think it's the same.

Perhaps not. Interesting point.
Surely (and it's my assumption), the ready meal contains artificial additives and preservatives in a way that the pub meal wouldn't.

Perhaps you ought to go and read some ready meal labels, rather than making assumptions? Weirdly, ready meals do have to list all their ingredients... though, fair enough, some people didn't know they were eating horse instead of beef...

Did I mention that people were eating horse?

Pross

pinno said:

pblakeney said:

pinno said:

ddraver said:

I just can't agree with you there RJ...

Agreed. M&S food is good but a ready meal? No ta.
I want to know what I am eating.

Interesting. If you go to an average pub for an average pub meal would you know the difference between their usual fare and an M&S ready meal? I always think it's the same.

Perhaps not. Interesting point.
Surely (and it's my assumption), the ready meal contains artificial additives and preservatives in a way that the pub meal wouldn't.

You’re also assuming the pub isn’t just chucking a load of ready meals on plates. I’ve always assumed the opposite with the ‘chefs’ in many chain pubs.

pinno

Cyclists arguing the merits of processed foods.

pblakeney

pinno said:

Cyclists arguing the merits of processed foods.

I'm not arguing the merits of processed foods. I'm arguing that processed foods are pervasive. Cheap restaurants/pubs/cafes etc, etc.

rick_chasey

pinno said:

pblakeney said:

pinno said:

ddraver said:

I just can't agree with you there RJ...

Agreed. M&S food is good but a ready meal? No ta.
I want to know what I am eating.

Interesting. If you go to an average pub for an average pub meal would you know the difference between their usual fare and an M&S ready meal? I always think it's the same.

Perhaps not. Interesting point.
Surely (and it's my assumption), the ready meal contains artificial additives and preservatives in a way that the pub meal wouldn't.

M&S ready made curries are better than 90% of takeaway curries.

I am as snobby as they come about this stuff - I don't even own a microwave - but they have moved light years

briantrumpet

pinno said:

Cyclists arguing the merits of processed foods.

Isn't all cooked food 'processed'?

I think you'd find there's a range of 'ready meals', from a mélange of mechanically-recovered meat with chemicals, to good restaurant standard dishes. As PB says, a lot of pubs & restaurants effectively buy in ready meals that just get reheated & plated.

pinno

rick_chasey said:

pinno said:

pblakeney said:

pinno said:

ddraver said:

I just can't agree with you there RJ...

Agreed. M&S food is good but a ready meal? No ta.
I want to know what I am eating.

Interesting. If you go to an average pub for an average pub meal would you know the difference between their usual fare and an M&S ready meal? I always think it's the same.

Perhaps not. Interesting point.
Surely (and it's my assumption), the ready meal contains artificial additives and preservatives in a way that the pub meal wouldn't.

M&S ready made curries are better than 90% of takeaway curries.

I am as snobby as they come about this stuff - I don't even own a microwave - but they have moved light years

I am not doubting that. It's still classed a processed food.
As fit (?), healthy eating cyclists (?). we can get away with it but there is a lazy, ever increasingly fatter proletariat out there.

rjsterry

pinno said:

rick_chasey said:

pinno said:

pblakeney said:

pinno said:

ddraver said:

I just can't agree with you there RJ...

Agreed. M&S food is good but a ready meal? No ta.
I want to know what I am eating.

Interesting. If you go to an average pub for an average pub meal would you know the difference between their usual fare and an M&S ready meal? I always think it's the same.

Perhaps not. Interesting point.
Surely (and it's my assumption), the ready meal contains artificial additives and preservatives in a way that the pub meal wouldn't.

M&S ready made curries are better than 90% of takeaway curries.

I am as snobby as they come about this stuff - I don't even own a microwave - but they have moved light years

I am not doubting that. It's still classed a processed food.
As fit (?), healthy eating cyclists (?). we can get away with it but there is a lazy, ever increasingly fatter proletariat out there.

Unless you are eating it raw, it's all processed - just a question of degree. If you live on ready meals you will probably ingest too much salt and too many calories and the same applies to even high end restaurant food, but the odd dinner now and then is going to do you no harm at all.

rick_chasey

You know if you chop onions and cook them yourself that's still processed? You just did the processing yourself.

And anyway, look at what's in the ready made foods. It's moved *a lot* since the 00s.

There are probably as many preservatives in your tablespoon full of curry paste as there are in a high-end ready made curry nowadays.

I still make my own curries but on the very rare occasion I want to treat myself to a takeaway I actually just go out and buy an M&S ready made curry. Better, cheaper, less drowned in ghee.

monkimark

If you are worried about what is in your food, the ready meals actually list it all out, pub meals don't.
Doesn't look like anything too worrying to me, but I'm not especially fussy about that stuff
https://www.ocado.com/search?ds_rl=1291426&ds_rl=1290893&entry=m&s eat well&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImo63lIe8-gIVjJftCh1XAgKQEAAYASACEgIgdvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

briantrumpet

monkimark said:

If you are worried about what is in your food, the ready meals actually list it all out, pub meals don't.
Doesn't look like anything too worrying to me, but I'm not especially fussy about that stuff
https://www.ocado.com/search?ds_rl=1291426&ds_rl=1290893&entry=m&s eat well&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImo63lIe8-gIVjJftCh1XAgKQEAAYASACEgIgdvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Having been amused by seeing big tubs of monosodium glutamate on a trade stand for restaurant-trade oriental herbs and spices, I suspect I know which is the more likely place for 'unusual' ingredients to be sneaked in with the customers not knowing.

lesfirth

Pross said:

pinno said:

pblakeney said:

pinno said:

ddraver said:

I just can't agree with you there RJ...

Agreed. M&S food is good but a ready meal? No ta.
I want to know what I am eating.

Interesting. If you go to an average pub for an average pub meal would you know the difference between their usual fare and an M&S ready meal? I always think it's the same.

Perhaps not. Interesting point.
Surely (and it's my assumption), the ready meal contains artificial additives and preservatives in a way that the pub meal wouldn't.

You’re also assuming the pup isn’t just chucking a load of ready meals on plates. I’ve always assumed the opposite with the ‘chefs’ in many chain pubs.

I was once in the restaurant of a 4 star hotel chain. On the menu was " rump steak served with pepper sauce". I asked the waitress for just the rump steak without the pepper sauce. She seemed a bit uneasy about this but took the order .
The manager appeared and told me I could no have my choice. After some slightly heated discussion he had to admit that the dish came as a "boil in the bag".

pangolin

This is a really good podcast on ultra processed food. Try to get past the technicality that all food is processed to some extent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0017tcz/episodes/player

pinno

rick_chasey said:

...curry paste...

Make your own. I do. You have no idea how much better curry's are with your own paste.

By definition, a processed food is a food item that has had a series of mechanical or chemical operations performed on it to change or preserve it.

Which means that home made food is not 'processed'.

rjsterry

Jeez. I'm aware that ready meals are more heavily processed and eaten exclusively are not a basis for a healthy diet. 🙄 I was just pointing out that they have improved significantly in the last 30 years. If you have tried one recently and were not entirely satisfied I'm sure you can contact the manufacturer for a full refund.

pinno

Jeez. All I said originally, is that I was proud to have only eaten 1 TV dinner.

monkimark

Chopping is a mechanical process to change food isn't it?
I get the impression that 'processed' is used like 'chemical' - it means pretty much anything but is used to mean 'the bad ones'

pinno said:

By definition, a processed food is a food item that has had a series of mechanical or chemical operations performed on it to change or preserve it.

Which means that home made food is not 'processed'.

pangolin

pangolin said:

Try to get past the technicality that all food is processed to some extent.

rick_chasey

pinno said:

rick_chasey said:

...curry paste...

Make your own. I do. You have no idea how much better curry's are with your own paste.

By definition, a processed food is a food item that has had a series of mechanical or chemical operations performed on it to change or preserve it.

Which means that home made food is not 'processed'.

Who says I don't? :P

Stevo_666

pinno said:

Jeez. All I said originally, is that I was proud to have only eaten 1 TV dinner.

How did you survive as a student?

pinno

monkimark said:

Chopping is a mechanical process to change food isn't it?
I get the impression that 'processed' is used like 'chemical' - it means pretty much anything but is used to mean 'the bad ones'

pinno said:

By definition, a processed food is a food item that has had a series of mechanical or chemical operations performed on it to change or preserve it.

Which means that home made food is not 'processed'.

I see your point. Do we re-define what is 'processed food'?

pinno

Stevo_666 said:

pinno said:

Jeez. All I said originally, is that I was proud to have only eaten 1 TV dinner.

How did you survive as a student?

I wasn't a skint student (this vexed my peers) and I cooked. I had savings which got me through my degree. Plus a couple of part-time jobs.
Pasta is cheap. You can cook basics on a budget.

pangolin

pinno said:

monkimark said:

Chopping is a mechanical process to change food isn't it?
I get the impression that 'processed' is used like 'chemical' - it means pretty much anything but is used to mean 'the bad ones'

pinno said:

By definition, a processed food is a food item that has had a series of mechanical or chemical operations performed on it to change or preserve it.

Which means that home made food is not 'processed'.

I see your point. Do we re-define what is 'processed food'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/what_is_ultra-processed_food

Stevo_666

pinno said:

Stevo_666 said:

pinno said:

Jeez. All I said originally, is that I was proud to have only eaten 1 TV dinner.

How did you survive as a student?

I wasn't a skint student (this vexed my peers) and I cooked. I had savings which got me through my degree. Plus a couple of part-time jobs.
Pasta is cheap. You can cook basics on a budget.

A wasted youth. You should have been out drinking and chasing punani, not cooking

pinno

Stevo_666 said:

pinno said:

Stevo_666 said:

pinno said:

Jeez. All I said originally, is that I was proud to have only eaten 1 TV dinner.

How did you survive as a student?

I wasn't a skint student (this vexed my peers) and I cooked. I had savings which got me through my degree. Plus a couple of part-time jobs.
Pasta is cheap. You can cook basics on a budget.

A wasted youth. You should have been out drinking and chasing punani, not cooking

Didn't need to. I had a beautiful Swedish GF.

pblakeney

pinno said:

Stevo_666 said:

pinno said:

Stevo_666 said:

pinno said:

Jeez. All I said originally, is that I was proud to have only eaten 1 TV dinner.

How did you survive as a student?

I wasn't a skint student (this vexed my peers) and I cooked. I had savings which got me through my degree. Plus a couple of part-time jobs.
Pasta is cheap. You can cook basics on a budget.

A wasted youth. You should have been out drinking and chasing punani, not cooking

Didn't need to. I had a beautiful Swedish GF.

Winner in the category of - most predictable retort of the week. 😉

Stevo_666

pinno said:

Stevo_666 said:

pinno said:

Stevo_666 said:

pinno said:

Jeez. All I said originally, is that I was proud to have only eaten 1 TV dinner.

How did you survive as a student?

I wasn't a skint student (this vexed my peers) and I cooked. I had savings which got me through my degree. Plus a couple of part-time jobs.
Pasta is cheap. You can cook basics on a budget.

A wasted youth. You should have been out drinking and chasing punani, not cooking

Didn't need to. I had a beautiful Swedish GF.

Hopefully she liked a drink. And didn't lose too much air

ddraver

pblakeney said:

pinno said:

ddraver said:

I just can't agree with you there RJ...

Agreed. M&S food is good but a ready meal? No ta.
I want to know what I am eating.

Interesting. If you go to an average pub for an average pub meal would you know the difference between their usual fare and an M&S ready meal? I always think it's the same.

I wouldnt be going back to the pub...