Seemingly trivial things that annoy you

rick_chasey

briantrumpet said:

rick_chasey said:

Had the debate before; school uniform is just trivially annoying and pointless.

So grim.

Genuinely couldn't tell in a local primary school with a basic but smart uniform of polo shirt and grey trousers/shorts who were the children of medics and who were the children of families in one of the most deprived catchment areas in the whole of the SW. I'm not a fan of blazers and all that rigmarole. Enjoyed the protest of the lads at the local school who wore skirts when the school banned shorts in the summer. They won.

Lol were they mute?

rjsterry

rick_chasey said:

briantrumpet said:

rick_chasey said:

Had the debate before; school uniform is just trivially annoying and pointless.

So grim.

Genuinely couldn't tell in a local primary school with a basic but smart uniform of polo shirt and grey trousers/shorts who were the children of medics and who were the children of families in one of the most deprived catchment areas in the whole of the SW. I'm not a fan of blazers and all that rigmarole. Enjoyed the protest of the lads at the local school who wore skirts when the school banned shorts in the summer. They won.

Lol were they mute?

Sweeping generalisations no. 4763

First.Aspect

briantrumpet said:

rick_chasey said:

Had the debate before; school uniform is just trivially annoying and pointless.

So grim.

Genuinely couldn't tell in a local primary school with a basic but smart uniform of polo shirt and grey trousers/shorts who were the children of medics and who were the children of families in one of the most deprived catchment areas in the whole of the SW. I'm not a fan of blazers and all that rigmarole. Enjoyed the protest of the lads at the local school who wore skirts when the school banned shorts in the summer. They won.

This is the argument in favour, but I wonder if (with respect, Brian) the people who make it can actually remember being at school.

The kids know already.

rick_chasey

rjsterry said:

rick_chasey said:

briantrumpet said:

rick_chasey said:

Had the debate before; school uniform is just trivially annoying and pointless.

So grim.

Genuinely couldn't tell in a local primary school with a basic but smart uniform of polo shirt and grey trousers/shorts who were the children of medics and who were the children of families in one of the most deprived catchment areas in the whole of the SW. I'm not a fan of blazers and all that rigmarole. Enjoyed the protest of the lads at the local school who wore skirts when the school banned shorts in the summer. They won.

Lol were they mute?

Sweeping generalisations no. 4763

Lol you naive?

TheBigBean

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

pblakeney

TheBigBean said:

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

My grandson wears £150 trainers to school. I doubt anyone in poverty can do that.
And yes, the kids do know.

pinno

First.Aspect said:

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

Rick - I think you might explode with anger if you do too much with schools. They annoy me a lot.

My latest pet hate is the inability for school staff to look at names on lost items when they can instead just throw it all in a big pile. Not sure my commentary was particularly appreciated "Have you thought about just giving this to Harry, because it says Harry on it quite clearly?"

Mandatory branded PE kit bags that are too small for the mandatory branded PE kit.

I thought schools were supposed not to be enforcing pointless censored like this any more?

As an aside, does anyone else remember the fad in the 80s of bigger and bigger kit bags. In my school tennis bags became the rage and Head bags about 5 feet long were the norm.

Yeah. We had to carry all our books and kit around from A block to B block to C block and back again and parents made noises about getting lockers but the suggestion was always met with bollox.

shirley_basso

pblakeney said:

TheBigBean said:

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

My grandson wears £150 trainers to school. I doubt anyone in poverty can do that.
And yes, the kids do know.

Wealth looks like a beat up, old hatchback or estate. Ideally from VAG but those old boxy Volvo's are more bling than the rainbow diamond bezel rolex Daytona. (John Mayer?).

pblakeney

shirley_basso said:

pblakeney said:

TheBigBean said:

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

My grandson wears £150 trainers to school. I doubt anyone in poverty can do that.
And yes, the kids do know.

Wealth looks like a beat up, old hatchback or estate. Ideally from VAG but those old boxy Volvo's are more bling than the rainbow diamond bezel rolex Daytona. (John Mayer?).

True, but I am talking about early high school kids so all they've got is clothes and phones.

Jezyboy

pblakeney said:

TheBigBean said:

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

My grandson wears £150 trainers to school. I doubt anyone in poverty can do that.
And yes, the kids do know.

Wondering how much is a flex and how much that price is just a sign of the extreme length of time since I were a youngun!

I do feel kids are likely to get picked on, on both sides of the visible wealth bell curve.

Pross

The now seemingly compulsory photo of journalists huddled around senior politicians while they give an interview on a plane.

pinno

Jezyboy said:

pblakeney said:

TheBigBean said:

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

My grandson wears £150 trainers to school. I doubt anyone in poverty can do that.
And yes, the kids do know.

Wondering how much is a flex and how much that price is just a sign of the extreme length of time since I were a youngun!

I do feel kids are likely to get picked on, on both sides of the visible wealth bell curve.

Yeah, I think uniforms are a levellers and create a second hand market to a degree.

rick_chasey

shirley_basso said:

pblakeney said:

TheBigBean said:

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

My grandson wears £150 trainers to school. I doubt anyone in poverty can do that.
And yes, the kids do know.

Wealth looks like a beat up, old hatchback or estate. Ideally from VAG but those old boxy Volvo's are more bling than the rainbow diamond bezel rolex Daytona. (John Mayer?).

Spotting the kids who turn up with heavily creased clothes because their parents struggle to/don't do the washing properly is more what happens tbh.

Or those who have to queue for the school dinners - especially when the school gives the free school meals kids a seperate queue.

The idea uniform is a leveller is just naïve. Uniforms are all about eroding individuality. That's literally the point of them.

pinno

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pinno

rick_chasey said:

The idea uniform is a leveller is just naïve. Uniforms are all about eroding individuality. That's literally the point of them.

In the same vein as FA - nope.

pinno

'Erosion of individuality'. Hmm...

I met a girl with studs in her ears and nose and lip (and god knows where else) and she had purple hair and a strange and contrary gothic style and I got to know her. This was at at Uni.
Within a few weeks of getting to know her, she turns out to be as dull as grey, drizzly day in Bromsgrove.

pinno

Are you on your customary morning rant Rick?

rick_chasey

Of course, how else to start a Friday morning? Good way to get revved up for a day of work.

pinno

Some inner calm would surely be more conducive.

...grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference, living one day at a time; enjoying one moment at a time; taking this world as it is and not as I would have it...

rick_chasey

I’d suggest confusing individuality with how interesting you find someone might not help in life either but I’m sure you’ve worked that one out.

rjsterry

pinno said:

'Erosion of individuality'. Hmm...

I met a girl with studs in her ears and nose and lip (and god knows where else) and she had purple hair and a strange and contrary gothic style and I got to know her. This was at at Uni.
Within a few weeks of getting to know her, she turns out to be as dull as grey, drizzly day in Bromsgrove.

Sounds pretty standard issue. Archaeology?

rjsterry

rick_chasey said:

shirley_basso said:

pblakeney said:

TheBigBean said:

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

My grandson wears £150 trainers to school. I doubt anyone in poverty can do that.
And yes, the kids do know.

Wealth looks like a beat up, old hatchback or estate. Ideally from VAG but those old boxy Volvo's are more bling than the rainbow diamond bezel rolex Daytona. (John Mayer?).

Spotting the kids who turn up with heavily creased clothes because their parents struggle to/don't do the washing properly is more what happens tbh.

Or those who have to queue for the school dinners - especially when the school gives the free school meals kids a seperate queue.

The idea uniform is a leveller is just naïve. Uniforms are all about eroding individuality. That's literally the point of them.

When has individuality been of any value? Especially to children.

rick_chasey

What?!?! You see no value in individuality? Holy moly. Life it too short even for me to spell that out on a forum.

pblakeney

Jezyboy said:

pblakeney said:

TheBigBean said:

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

My grandson wears £150 trainers to school. I doubt anyone in poverty can do that.
And yes, the kids do know.

Wondering how much is a flex and how much that price is just a sign of the extreme length of time since I were a youngun!

I do feel kids are likely to get picked on, on both sides of the visible wealth bell curve.

Twas ever thus, and forever shall be.

rjsterry

rick_chasey said:

What?!?! You see no value in individuality? Holy moly. Life it too short even for me to spell that out on a forum.

At the risk of slipping into amateur analysis this explains a lot. In any case, wearing non-uniform clothes that your parents picked for you is hardly the definition of self expression.

pinno

rjsterry said:

pinno said:

'Erosion of individuality'. Hmm...

I met a girl with studs in her ears and nose and lip (and god knows where else) and she had purple hair and a strange and contrary gothic style and I got to know her. This was at at Uni.
Within a few weeks of getting to know her, she turns out to be as dull as grey, drizzly day in Bromsgrove.

Sounds pretty standard issue. Archaeology?

AFAIR, teacher training. She was from Idaho.

TheBigBean

rjsterry said:

rick_chasey said:

What?!?! You see no value in individuality? Holy moly. Life it too short even for me to spell that out on a forum.

At the risk of slipping into amateur analysis this explains a lot. In any case, wearing non-uniform clothes that your parents picked for you is hardly the definition of self expression.

Kids do have some input which I assume you have experienced. I'd say from about the age of 3. Possibly 2.

Pross

rick_chasey said:

shirley_basso said:

pblakeney said:

TheBigBean said:

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

My grandson wears £150 trainers to school. I doubt anyone in poverty can do that.
And yes, the kids do know.

Wealth looks like a beat up, old hatchback or estate. Ideally from VAG but those old boxy Volvo's are more bling than the rainbow diamond bezel rolex Daytona. (John Mayer?).

Spotting the kids who turn up with heavily creased clothes because their parents struggle to/don't do the washing properly is more what happens tbh.

Or those who have to queue for the school dinners - especially when the school gives the free school meals kids a seperate queue.

The idea uniform is a leveller is just naïve. Uniforms are all about eroding individuality. That's literally the point of them.

You think that is confined to poorer children? Being able to iron clothes has become a lost skill and a lot of people I know admit to never ironing anything. Lazy parenting isn't restricted to certain socio economic groups.

I used to do some work for the founder of a well known High Street fashion company who was worth a few hundred million but a lot of the time looked like a rough sleeper (and drove around in a 20 year old heap of shit Range Rover).

rjsterry

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

rick_chasey said:

What?!?! You see no value in individuality? Holy moly. Life it too short even for me to spell that out on a forum.

At the risk of slipping into amateur analysis this explains a lot. In any case, wearing non-uniform clothes that your parents picked for you is hardly the definition of self expression.

Kids do have some input which I assume you have experienced. I'd say from about the age of 3. Possibly 2.

Oh sure, we have had plenty of rows about which of ten pairs of identical school socks are not too small/big/itchy or otherwise unacceptable. Normally a displacement activity rather than an expression of individuality.

rick_chasey

Pross said:

rick_chasey said:

shirley_basso said:

pblakeney said:

TheBigBean said:

There's no school uniform at my kid's primary school. I can't tell who is rich; however, it would be dangerous to infer too much from my views on clothing.

My grandson wears £150 trainers to school. I doubt anyone in poverty can do that.
And yes, the kids do know.

Wealth looks like a beat up, old hatchback or estate. Ideally from VAG but those old boxy Volvo's are more bling than the rainbow diamond bezel rolex Daytona. (John Mayer?).

Spotting the kids who turn up with heavily creased clothes because their parents struggle to/don't do the washing properly is more what happens tbh.

Or those who have to queue for the school dinners - especially when the school gives the free school meals kids a seperate queue.

The idea uniform is a leveller is just naïve. Uniforms are all about eroding individuality. That's literally the point of them.

You think that is confined to poorer children? Being able to iron clothes has become a lost skill and a lot of people I know admit to never ironing anything. Lazy parenting isn't restricted to certain socio economic groups.

I used to do some work for the founder of a well known High Street fashion company who was worth a few hundred million but a lot of the time looked like a rough sleeper (and drove around in a 20 year old heap of censored Range Rover).

It's more when they've pulled the clothes straight out of the pile of clothes that have been damp in the washing machine for a couple days.

You see the look on the teacher's face when they rock up. Usually late, obviously.