Seemingly trivial things that annoy you
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Ouch.pinno said:
I would be writhing on the floor in pain and reaching for Gavascon.First.Aspect said:
What happens?pinno said:
I like it but can't eat it.First.Aspect said:
Good mate of mine can't stand citrus fruit. Think he's just odd.0 -
Yep.First.Aspect said:
Ouch.pinno said:
I would be writhing on the floor in pain and reaching for Gavascon.First.Aspect said:
What happens?pinno said:
I like it but can't eat it.First.Aspect said:
Good mate of mine can't stand citrus fruit. Think he's just odd.
I look longingly at citrus fruit. Especially freshly squeezed orange juice.
I had an acid intolerance before total body irradiation but then after...
Funny thing is, I can eat very hot curry (as long as it doesn't contain tomatoes).seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Never understood how people could eat them. The smell, the taste and the texture are just offal.......masjer said:This asparagus pee thing is one thing, but how anyone can eat kidney is beyond me. It smells of stale P1ss before you eat it.
Tripe is another thing that I couldn't stomach, being a stomach.1 -
Badoom tish!seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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Yes, the incinerator. The flight paths over London change regularly. A large derelict hospital site has also been developed into effectively a whole new village. Loads of stuff has changed over the last thirteen years. Life would be really dull if everything stayed the same.First.Aspect said:
Was any of that not there when you moved in?rjsterry said:
I mean I can see an incinerator chimney and the decommissioned chimneys from a coal fired power station not to mention two lines of pylons from my house. The view over Romney Marsh on the Kent Sussex borders has a nuclear power station sat at the end of Dungeness with more pylons. I have regular aircraft noise from being between Heathrow and Gatwick. So no, I'm not going to lose sleep over a few thousand people in Scotland having a slightly less nice view. Anyway, subsidies for onshore have now ended and all the new stuff is offshore.First.Aspect said:
No, people live here.rjsterry said:
Bingo. It's empty and windy up there.First.Aspect said:
No, because there are fewer people to annoy and/or they are further away. And also because the party they send money to basically put prohibitive planning restrictions in place in England that don't apply in Scotland. Because no one really votes for the tories up here so who cares.TheBigBean said:
So despite subsidies being available throughout the UK, evil Londoners conspired to build them in Scotland just to annoy people?First.Aspect said:
Yes, like the wind farms aren't.TheBigBean said:
The subsidies that were available throughout the UK?First.Aspect said:
No, London based landowners after subsidies, regardless of actual generating capacity.TheBigBean said:Was it a mass conspiracy between wind farm developers to inflict their wares on the good people of Scotland?
Let's flip it around. Someone in North Wales gets their view buggered, shadow flicker and/or noise at night.
You say, well its for the planet.
They say, hang on, why do I have to suffer more than you?
It's just perspectives.
https://www.renewableenergyhub.co.uk/blog/uk-onshore-wind-farms-wind-speed-interactive-map/
Fwiw I'm a fan of marine renewables. More interesting technology. Better for a densely populated island with a vast coastline and the second biggest tidal range on earth. And microgeneration. There are technologies available that could harvest energy without p1ssing off the next door neighbour. As an architect you'll know all about those.
People have been talking about harvesting the Severn tide for at least the last 30 years and no movement on it yet.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Wrong sort of tidal. Defo too environmentally damaging.rjsterry said:
Yes, the incinerator. The flight paths over London change regularly. A large derelict hospital site has also been developed into effectively a whole new village. Loads of stuff has changed over the last thirteen years. Life would be really dull if everything stayed the same.First.Aspect said:
Was any of that not there when you moved in?rjsterry said:
I mean I can see an incinerator chimney and the decommissioned chimneys from a coal fired power station not to mention two lines of pylons from my house. The view over Romney Marsh on the Kent Sussex borders has a nuclear power station sat at the end of Dungeness with more pylons. I have regular aircraft noise from being between Heathrow and Gatwick. So no, I'm not going to lose sleep over a few thousand people in Scotland having a slightly less nice view. Anyway, subsidies for onshore have now ended and all the new stuff is offshore.First.Aspect said:
No, people live here.rjsterry said:
Bingo. It's empty and windy up there.First.Aspect said:
No, because there are fewer people to annoy and/or they are further away. And also because the party they send money to basically put prohibitive planning restrictions in place in England that don't apply in Scotland. Because no one really votes for the tories up here so who cares.TheBigBean said:
So despite subsidies being available throughout the UK, evil Londoners conspired to build them in Scotland just to annoy people?First.Aspect said:
Yes, like the wind farms aren't.TheBigBean said:
The subsidies that were available throughout the UK?First.Aspect said:
No, London based landowners after subsidies, regardless of actual generating capacity.TheBigBean said:Was it a mass conspiracy between wind farm developers to inflict their wares on the good people of Scotland?
Let's flip it around. Someone in North Wales gets their view buggered, shadow flicker and/or noise at night.
You say, well its for the planet.
They say, hang on, why do I have to suffer more than you?
It's just perspectives.
https://www.renewableenergyhub.co.uk/blog/uk-onshore-wind-farms-wind-speed-interactive-map/
Fwiw I'm a fan of marine renewables. More interesting technology. Better for a densely populated island with a vast coastline and the second biggest tidal range on earth. And microgeneration. There are technologies available that could harvest energy without p1ssing off the next door neighbour. As an architect you'll know all about those.
People have been talking about harvesting the Severn tide for at least the last 30 years and no movement on it yet.0 -
First.Aspect said:
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Wrong sort of tidal. Defo too environmentally damaging.rjsterry said:
Yes, the incinerator. The flight paths over London change regularly. A large derelict hospital site has also been developed into effectively a whole new village. Loads of stuff has changed over the last thirteen years. Life would be really dull if everything stayed the same.First.Aspect said:
Was any of that not there when you moved in?rjsterry said:
I mean I can see an incinerator chimney and the decommissioned chimneys from a coal fired power station not to mention two lines of pylons from my house. The view over Romney Marsh on the Kent Sussex borders has a nuclear power station sat at the end of Dungeness with more pylons. I have regular aircraft noise from being between Heathrow and Gatwick. So no, I'm not going to lose sleep over a few thousand people in Scotland having a slightly less nice view. Anyway, subsidies for onshore have now ended and all the new stuff is offshore.First.Aspect said:
No, people live here.rjsterry said:
Bingo. It's empty and windy up there.First.Aspect said:
No, because there are fewer people to annoy and/or they are further away. And also because the party they send money to basically put prohibitive planning restrictions in place in England that don't apply in Scotland. Because no one really votes for the tories up here so who cares.TheBigBean said:
So despite subsidies being available throughout the UK, evil Londoners conspired to build them in Scotland just to annoy people?First.Aspect said:
Yes, like the wind farms aren't.TheBigBean said:
The subsidies that were available throughout the UK?First.Aspect said:
No, London based landowners after subsidies, regardless of actual generating capacity.TheBigBean said:Was it a mass conspiracy between wind farm developers to inflict their wares on the good people of Scotland?
Let's flip it around. Someone in North Wales gets their view buggered, shadow flicker and/or noise at night.
You say, well its for the planet.
They say, hang on, why do I have to suffer more than you?
It's just perspectives.
https://www.renewableenergyhub.co.uk/blog/uk-onshore-wind-farms-wind-speed-interactive-map/
Fwiw I'm a fan of marine renewables. More interesting technology. Better for a densely populated island with a vast coastline and the second biggest tidal range on earth. And microgeneration. There are technologies available that could harvest energy without p1ssing off the next door neighbour. As an architect you'll know all about those.
People have been talking about harvesting the Severn tide for at least the last 30 years and no movement on it yet.
I don't know if the technology has moved on, but IIRC most tidal schemes have ended up as disappointments, if not white elephants.0 -
Just to be clear, I think we should do all the other stuff as well. Not that we don't get people moaning about how PV panels are ugly or heat pumps are noisy. Or even that double glazing is inappropriate in a heritage situation. And unless we're all happy to have a significant drop in energy usage, that may well spoil someone's view.First.Aspect said:.
Wrong sort of tidal. Defo too environmentally damaging.rjsterry said:
Yes, the incinerator. The flight paths over London change regularly. A large derelict hospital site has also been developed into effectively a whole new village. Loads of stuff has changed over the last thirteen years. Life would be really dull if everything stayed the same.First.Aspect said:
Was any of that not there when you moved in?rjsterry said:
I mean I can see an incinerator chimney and the decommissioned chimneys from a coal fired power station not to mention two lines of pylons from my house. The view over Romney Marsh on the Kent Sussex borders has a nuclear power station sat at the end of Dungeness with more pylons. I have regular aircraft noise from being between Heathrow and Gatwick. So no, I'm not going to lose sleep over a few thousand people in Scotland having a slightly less nice view. Anyway, subsidies for onshore have now ended and all the new stuff is offshore.First.Aspect said:
No, people live here.rjsterry said:
Bingo. It's empty and windy up there.First.Aspect said:
No, because there are fewer people to annoy and/or they are further away. And also because the party they send money to basically put prohibitive planning restrictions in place in England that don't apply in Scotland. Because no one really votes for the tories up here so who cares.TheBigBean said:
So despite subsidies being available throughout the UK, evil Londoners conspired to build them in Scotland just to annoy people?First.Aspect said:
Yes, like the wind farms aren't.TheBigBean said:
The subsidies that were available throughout the UK?First.Aspect said:
No, London based landowners after subsidies, regardless of actual generating capacity.TheBigBean said:Was it a mass conspiracy between wind farm developers to inflict their wares on the good people of Scotland?
Let's flip it around. Someone in North Wales gets their view buggered, shadow flicker and/or noise at night.
You say, well its for the planet.
They say, hang on, why do I have to suffer more than you?
It's just perspectives.
https://www.renewableenergyhub.co.uk/blog/uk-onshore-wind-farms-wind-speed-interactive-map/
Fwiw I'm a fan of marine renewables. More interesting technology. Better for a densely populated island with a vast coastline and the second biggest tidal range on earth. And microgeneration. There are technologies available that could harvest energy without p1ssing off the next door neighbour. As an architect you'll know all about those.
People have been talking about harvesting the Severn tide for at least the last 30 years and no movement on it yet.
Wind microgeneration only makes sense if that's all you can get hold of as it just doesn't work effectively where there are obstructions (buildings and trees) which disrupt the airflow. If you are using water, you need a vertical drop, so no good for RC.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Just put a turbine under water. It doesn't turn that fast, so doesn't kill much.briantrumpet said:First.Aspect said:.
Wrong sort of tidal. Defo too environmentally damaging.rjsterry said:
Yes, the incinerator. The flight paths over London change regularly. A large derelict hospital site has also been developed into effectively a whole new village. Loads of stuff has changed over the last thirteen years. Life would be really dull if everything stayed the same.First.Aspect said:
Was any of that not there when you moved in?rjsterry said:
I mean I can see an incinerator chimney and the decommissioned chimneys from a coal fired power station not to mention two lines of pylons from my house. The view over Romney Marsh on the Kent Sussex borders has a nuclear power station sat at the end of Dungeness with more pylons. I have regular aircraft noise from being between Heathrow and Gatwick. So no, I'm not going to lose sleep over a few thousand people in Scotland having a slightly less nice view. Anyway, subsidies for onshore have now ended and all the new stuff is offshore.First.Aspect said:
No, people live here.rjsterry said:
Bingo. It's empty and windy up there.First.Aspect said:
No, because there are fewer people to annoy and/or they are further away. And also because the party they send money to basically put prohibitive planning restrictions in place in England that don't apply in Scotland. Because no one really votes for the tories up here so who cares.TheBigBean said:
So despite subsidies being available throughout the UK, evil Londoners conspired to build them in Scotland just to annoy people?First.Aspect said:
Yes, like the wind farms aren't.TheBigBean said:
The subsidies that were available throughout the UK?First.Aspect said:
No, London based landowners after subsidies, regardless of actual generating capacity.TheBigBean said:Was it a mass conspiracy between wind farm developers to inflict their wares on the good people of Scotland?
Let's flip it around. Someone in North Wales gets their view buggered, shadow flicker and/or noise at night.
You say, well its for the planet.
They say, hang on, why do I have to suffer more than you?
It's just perspectives.
https://www.renewableenergyhub.co.uk/blog/uk-onshore-wind-farms-wind-speed-interactive-map/
Fwiw I'm a fan of marine renewables. More interesting technology. Better for a densely populated island with a vast coastline and the second biggest tidal range on earth. And microgeneration. There are technologies available that could harvest energy without p1ssing off the next door neighbour. As an architect you'll know all about those.
People have been talking about harvesting the Severn tide for at least the last 30 years and no movement on it yet.
I don't know if the technology has moved on, but IIRC most tidal schemes have ended up as disappointments, if not white elephants.
No need to create a lagoon.
Down side is that it's a hostile environment. Which adds costs.0 -
The technologies I'm seeing either focus air flow or harnesses lower wind speeds with smaller movable elements. The former is more viable, based on the fact I've seen a few different versions. Latter strikes me as fairly expensive to make.rjsterry said:
Just to be clear, I think we should do all the other stuff as well. Not that we don't get people moaning about how PV panels are ugly or heat pumps are noisy. Or even that double glazing is inappropriate in a heritage situation. And unless we're all happy to have a significant drop in energy usage, that may well spoil someone's view.First.Aspect said:.
Wrong sort of tidal. Defo too environmentally damaging.rjsterry said:
Yes, the incinerator. The flight paths over London change regularly. A large derelict hospital site has also been developed into effectively a whole new village. Loads of stuff has changed over the last thirteen years. Life would be really dull if everything stayed the same.First.Aspect said:
Was any of that not there when you moved in?rjsterry said:
I mean I can see an incinerator chimney and the decommissioned chimneys from a coal fired power station not to mention two lines of pylons from my house. The view over Romney Marsh on the Kent Sussex borders has a nuclear power station sat at the end of Dungeness with more pylons. I have regular aircraft noise from being between Heathrow and Gatwick. So no, I'm not going to lose sleep over a few thousand people in Scotland having a slightly less nice view. Anyway, subsidies for onshore have now ended and all the new stuff is offshore.First.Aspect said:
No, people live here.rjsterry said:
Bingo. It's empty and windy up there.First.Aspect said:
No, because there are fewer people to annoy and/or they are further away. And also because the party they send money to basically put prohibitive planning restrictions in place in England that don't apply in Scotland. Because no one really votes for the tories up here so who cares.TheBigBean said:
So despite subsidies being available throughout the UK, evil Londoners conspired to build them in Scotland just to annoy people?First.Aspect said:
Yes, like the wind farms aren't.TheBigBean said:
The subsidies that were available throughout the UK?First.Aspect said:
No, London based landowners after subsidies, regardless of actual generating capacity.TheBigBean said:Was it a mass conspiracy between wind farm developers to inflict their wares on the good people of Scotland?
Let's flip it around. Someone in North Wales gets their view buggered, shadow flicker and/or noise at night.
You say, well its for the planet.
They say, hang on, why do I have to suffer more than you?
It's just perspectives.
https://www.renewableenergyhub.co.uk/blog/uk-onshore-wind-farms-wind-speed-interactive-map/
Fwiw I'm a fan of marine renewables. More interesting technology. Better for a densely populated island with a vast coastline and the second biggest tidal range on earth. And microgeneration. There are technologies available that could harvest energy without p1ssing off the next door neighbour. As an architect you'll know all about those.
People have been talking about harvesting the Severn tide for at least the last 30 years and no movement on it yet.
Wind microgeneration only makes sense if that's all you can get hold of as it just doesn't work effectively where there are obstructions (buildings and trees) which disrupt the airflow. If you are using water, you need a vertical drop, so no good for RC.0 -
Working class brexiteers that voted tory now complaining about tory policies.
Should have thought about that at the time.0 -
The world's largest tidal stream generator is in Scotland. The London conspiracy is never-ending.0
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What are you on about?TheBigBean said:The world's largest tidal stream generator is in Scotland. The London conspiracy is never-ending.
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The Thames is tidal. Why didn't they put it there?First.Aspect said:
What are you on about?TheBigBean said:The world's largest tidal stream generator is in Scotland. The London conspiracy is never-ending.
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That's where the `big fish` live.TheBigBean said:
The Thames is tidal. Why didn't they put it there?First.Aspect said:
What are you on about?TheBigBean said:The world's largest tidal stream generator is in Scotland. The London conspiracy is never-ending.
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It is still a prototype. There is only one of them.TheBigBean said:
The Thames is tidal. Why didn't they put it there?First.Aspect said:
What are you on about?TheBigBean said:The world's largest tidal stream generator is in Scotland. The London conspiracy is never-ending.
Scottish govt gave created a tidal industry cluster in Orkney. So that's where it is being tested.
And if ypu are extracting water from a river it does t need to be tidal. It does have to be smaller though.0 -
So there is a reason it was in Scotland and not in London. You could go wild and apply the same logic to wind turbines.First.Aspect said:
It is still a prototype. There is only one of them.TheBigBean said:
The Thames is tidal. Why didn't they put it there?First.Aspect said:
What are you on about?TheBigBean said:The world's largest tidal stream generator is in Scotland. The London conspiracy is never-ending.
Scottish govt gave created a tidal industry cluster in Orkney. So that's where it is being tested.
And if ypu are extracting water from a river it does t need to be tidal. It does have to be smaller though.0 -
There was a project near me (Ramsey sound), a small scale tidal energy trial. The generator ran into technical/reliability problems. I think it's been axed now.
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And the problem with tidal stream tech is that (I) it involves building something in a tidal stream and (ii) there aren't that many places for tidal streams in the world when compared to wind, so it is not worth it for the bigger players.0
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What, you mean money?TheBigBean said:
So there is a reason it was in Scotland and not in London. You could go wild and apply the same logic to wind turbines.First.Aspect said:
It is still a prototype. There is only one of them.TheBigBean said:
The Thames is tidal. Why didn't they put it there?First.Aspect said:
What are you on about?TheBigBean said:The world's largest tidal stream generator is in Scotland. The London conspiracy is never-ending.
Scottish govt gave created a tidal industry cluster in Orkney. So that's where it is being tested.
And if ypu are extracting water from a river it does t need to be tidal. It does have to be smaller though.0 -
They went bust. Tidal Energy Limited.masjer said:There was a project near me (Ramsey sound), a small scale tidal energy trial. The generator ran into technical/reliability problems. I think it's been axed now.
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More have and will go than the number of concepts that survive.
Look at that for example - there's a lot of metal for one turbine. And it sits on the sea bed, meaning you've got to get down to it, or get it to the surface, to perform maintenance. There's not a lot you can do if you go down to it other than defouling, and because of all that metal to keep it there in the first place, and its expensive to get it to the surface. It is also quite easy to get something firmly anchored on the sea bed, but much harder if you want to get it back up and down again.
It is also fairly limited in terms of the depth into which it can be deployed, because it needs to reach a tidal stream.
Did a quick patent search and they were mostly about the actual turbine (how to feather the blades to adjust load) rather than how to get it there. Then they filed some cases directed to deployment, but at that stage they'll have been locked in to the sea bed concept that could be engineered, but not cost effectively.
It is a shame, but the good ideas they had are now available for anyone else to use if they can apply it cheaply enough.
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The presence of a wood burning stove (I have two) does not mean it is the sticks.TheBigBean said:
Don't you have a wood burning stove?surrey_commuter said:
I am sure it is but living in the sticks is not for meFirst.Aspect said:
Carluke is a quite nice commuter town.surrey_commuter said:
I think if I lived in the countryside that would be low on my list of complaintsFirst.Aspect said:
Would you think that if you could see several hundred of them, in all 360 degrees around you? In that case I recommend you move to Carluke.surrey_commuter said:
I think they look greatrick_chasey said:
I'm half Dutch.First.Aspect said:
How about wind farms?rick_chasey said:
I'd be the first person supporting Cambridgeshire being turned into a massive solar farm. Go for it.First.Aspect said:
It wouldn't be a subsidy, just less additional tax than levied on other products. As a means to smooth the cost of living crisis.rick_chasey said:
So you want the government to subsidise the oil industry? I thought they were the bad guys?First.Aspect said:
Sorry - meant prices that reach consumers.rick_chasey said:
Explain this tax lever on the global oil marketFirst.Aspect said:
The government has a pretty big tax lever they can pull.rick_chasey said:How on earth do you propose regulating the oil market?
But the only long term option is to cover Cambridgeshire with wind farms and solar farms.
But of course it isn't green and the govt needs the income, so isn't going to happen.
Covering Cambridgeshire with renewables might, though.
Hell, I'll even quit my job and set up a recruitment job to hire all the people to go build it and run it.
Blaming oil companies for drilling stuff we all currently need out of the ground and selling it at market rate is stupid.
The "cost of living crisis" is not at the door of the oil companies. It's at the door of multiple decades of unequal policies that have allowed millions of people to live in relatively or absolutely poor circumstances, such they are not wealthy enough to survive price shocks.
Windmills are sort of built into my idea of a good country. Go for it. Hell, stick one in my garden if it's efficient enough.
I am not a NIMBY and I think "nature" views are overated.
At least they will be something to see on the horizon. I quite like windmills.
There can be too much of a good thing.
I live in Epsom which to me is borderline sticks.
I work with somebody who sees Canary Wharf as the sticks and would not dream of going somewhere like Clapham. She went to Putney, once.0 -
You think Epsom is the sticks?surrey_commuter said:
The presence of a wood burning stove (I have two) does not mean it is the sticks.TheBigBean said:
Don't you have a wood burning stove?surrey_commuter said:
I am sure it is but living in the sticks is not for meFirst.Aspect said:
Carluke is a quite nice commuter town.surrey_commuter said:
I think if I lived in the countryside that would be low on my list of complaintsFirst.Aspect said:
Would you think that if you could see several hundred of them, in all 360 degrees around you? In that case I recommend you move to Carluke.surrey_commuter said:
I think they look greatrick_chasey said:
I'm half Dutch.First.Aspect said:
How about wind farms?rick_chasey said:
I'd be the first person supporting Cambridgeshire being turned into a massive solar farm. Go for it.First.Aspect said:
It wouldn't be a subsidy, just less additional tax than levied on other products. As a means to smooth the cost of living crisis.rick_chasey said:
So you want the government to subsidise the oil industry? I thought they were the bad guys?First.Aspect said:
Sorry - meant prices that reach consumers.rick_chasey said:
Explain this tax lever on the global oil marketFirst.Aspect said:
The government has a pretty big tax lever they can pull.rick_chasey said:How on earth do you propose regulating the oil market?
But the only long term option is to cover Cambridgeshire with wind farms and solar farms.
But of course it isn't green and the govt needs the income, so isn't going to happen.
Covering Cambridgeshire with renewables might, though.
Hell, I'll even quit my job and set up a recruitment job to hire all the people to go build it and run it.
Blaming oil companies for drilling stuff we all currently need out of the ground and selling it at market rate is stupid.
The "cost of living crisis" is not at the door of the oil companies. It's at the door of multiple decades of unequal policies that have allowed millions of people to live in relatively or absolutely poor circumstances, such they are not wealthy enough to survive price shocks.
Windmills are sort of built into my idea of a good country. Go for it. Hell, stick one in my garden if it's efficient enough.
I am not a NIMBY and I think "nature" views are overated.
At least they will be something to see on the horizon. I quite like windmills.
There can be too much of a good thing.
I live in Epsom which to me is borderline sticks.
I work with somebody who sees Canary Wharf as the sticks and would not dream of going somewhere like Clapham. She went to Putney, once.
You've been to the stewponds and got all confused haven't you? (Btw, is that still a dogging spot for vicars?)0 -
Initial thought. Why not use lighter and less corrosive materials?First.Aspect said:
...Look at that for example - there's a lot of metal for one turbine...
A. Cheap prototype to be modified later?
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Because it needs to stay on the sea bed and that turbine is a huge lever when it is in a tidal flow. Materials other than steel are simply too expensive. And even if you hypothetically made it out of aluminium, or of tubular construction, you would still need something very well anchored to attach it to, and something both robust and reliable to removably anchor it.pblakeney said:
Initial thought. Why not use lighter and less corrosive materials?First.Aspect said:
...Look at that for example - there's a lot of metal for one turbine...
Best guess, they made it like that to use the enclosed volume for buoyancy when floating it to the surface.
Like I say, they designed a turbine - which could be brilliant for all I know - then figured out how to put it in the sea.
There are so many designs like this - concrete pylons with turbines on a lift, or oil rig inspired towers on the sea bed with pulleys to lift the turbines out for maintenance etc. Problem is, oil is a lot more valuable than the power these things generate, so the business model is going to struggle if you are using an installation that normally pays for itself with oil revenue.0 -
'Sticks' lol.First.Aspect said:
You think Epsom is the sticks?surrey_commuter said:
The presence of a wood burning stove (I have two) does not mean it is the sticks.TheBigBean said:
Don't you have a wood burning stove?surrey_commuter said:
I am sure it is but living in the sticks is not for meFirst.Aspect said:
Carluke is a quite nice commuter town.surrey_commuter said:
I think if I lived in the countryside that would be low on my list of complaintsFirst.Aspect said:
Would you think that if you could see several hundred of them, in all 360 degrees around you? In that case I recommend you move to Carluke.surrey_commuter said:
I think they look greatrick_chasey said:
I'm half Dutch.First.Aspect said:
How about wind farms?rick_chasey said:
I'd be the first person supporting Cambridgeshire being turned into a massive solar farm. Go for it.First.Aspect said:
It wouldn't be a subsidy, just less additional tax than levied on other products. As a means to smooth the cost of living crisis.rick_chasey said:
So you want the government to subsidise the oil industry? I thought they were the bad guys?First.Aspect said:
Sorry - meant prices that reach consumers.rick_chasey said:
Explain this tax lever on the global oil marketFirst.Aspect said:
The government has a pretty big tax lever they can pull.rick_chasey said:How on earth do you propose regulating the oil market?
But the only long term option is to cover Cambridgeshire with wind farms and solar farms.
But of course it isn't green and the govt needs the income, so isn't going to happen.
Covering Cambridgeshire with renewables might, though.
Hell, I'll even quit my job and set up a recruitment job to hire all the people to go build it and run it.
Blaming oil companies for drilling stuff we all currently need out of the ground and selling it at market rate is stupid.
The "cost of living crisis" is not at the door of the oil companies. It's at the door of multiple decades of unequal policies that have allowed millions of people to live in relatively or absolutely poor circumstances, such they are not wealthy enough to survive price shocks.
Windmills are sort of built into my idea of a good country. Go for it. Hell, stick one in my garden if it's efficient enough.
I am not a NIMBY and I think "nature" views are overated.
At least they will be something to see on the horizon. I quite like windmills.
There can be too much of a good thing.
I live in Epsom which to me is borderline sticks.
I work with somebody who sees Canary Wharf as the sticks and would not dream of going somewhere like Clapham. She went to Putney, once.
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