Seemingly trivial things that annoy you

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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,509
    edited April 2022


    Solar is interesting. There has to be a way to bring the cost down.

    Are you aware of the not insignificant drop in the price of panels over the last 10 years?

    Yeeeeessss. Also aware that bears have to poo somewhere. But there's still a perceived barrier.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/renewables-cheapest-energy-source/

    Getting close, mind you, but perhaps not at these latitudes.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,983

    masjer said:

    They were going to do a large project (tidal barrage) in Swansea, but that never got started.


    That was simply a massive scam to try and milk the public purse. As covered by Private Eye.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Wales/comments/8lfetm/the_rocky_shorrock_show_swansea_tidal_lagoon/

    https://www.theengineer.co.uk/government-swansea-bay-tidal-lagoon/

    The articles don't support your assertion that it was a massive scam.

    I was trying to find links to the multiple Private Eye pieces that have documented their shenanigans. It's been featured several times - basically trying to pull a fast one on tax-payers to enrich him & his wife, IIRC.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,090


    Solar is interesting. There has to be a way to bring the cost down.

    Are you aware of the not insignificant drop in the price of panels over the last 10 years?

    Yeeeeessss. Also aware that bears have to poo somewhere. But there's still a perceived barrier.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/renewables-cheapest-energy-source/

    Getting close, mind you, but perhaps not at these latitudes.
    What barrier?

    The answer of the cheapest tech in the UK will shortly be announced when the latest round of CFDs are awarded. It will be close between onshore, offshore and solar.

    The main issue at the moment is the impact of covid on supply chains, so some costs have gone up.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,509


    Solar is interesting. There has to be a way to bring the cost down.

    Are you aware of the not insignificant drop in the price of panels over the last 10 years?

    Yeeeeessss. Also aware that bears have to poo somewhere. But there's still a perceived barrier.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/renewables-cheapest-energy-source/

    Getting close, mind you, but perhaps not at these latitudes.
    What barrier?

    The answer of the cheapest tech in the UK will shortly be announced when the latest round of CFDs are awarded. It will be close between onshore, offshore and solar.

    The main issue at the moment is the impact of covid on supply chains, so some costs have gone up.
    Makes sense.

    Land use competition was my thought re barriers. Not sure on initial capital outlay.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,639
    Stevo_666 said:

    pinno said:

    ...and some say Gretna.

    You're beyond banjo country there and into webbed fingers and toes territory.
    Don't you mix us up with them Wes' cuntry folks.
    We is civilized here; the Witch doctors use hand sanitizer and the women folk have finally learnt one end of a pot brush from the other.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,692


    Solar is interesting. There has to be a way to bring the cost down.

    Are you aware of the not insignificant drop in the price of panels over the last 10 years?

    Yeeeeessss. Also aware that bears have to poo somewhere. But there's still a perceived barrier.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/renewables-cheapest-energy-source/

    Getting close, mind you, but perhaps not at these latitudes.
    What barrier?

    The answer of the cheapest tech in the UK will shortly be announced when the latest round of CFDs are awarded. It will be close between onshore, offshore and solar.

    The main issue at the moment is the impact of covid on supply chains, so some costs have gone up.
    Makes sense.

    Land use competition was my thought re barriers. Not sure on initial capital outlay.
    Land use shouldn't be an issue for solar. Sheep farmers love them as they get an income from the land but can still use it to graze sheep from what I've been told (worked on lots of sites in a previous job and still have a couple). Most of the sites I've seen haven't really been suitable for much other than grazing as I believe (Big Bean might correct me) sloping land is the most efficient. The science in optimising sites is beyond me though, I've looked at plans and don't understand a thing!
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,090
    Pross said:


    Solar is interesting. There has to be a way to bring the cost down.

    Are you aware of the not insignificant drop in the price of panels over the last 10 years?

    Yeeeeessss. Also aware that bears have to poo somewhere. But there's still a perceived barrier.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/renewables-cheapest-energy-source/

    Getting close, mind you, but perhaps not at these latitudes.
    What barrier?

    The answer of the cheapest tech in the UK will shortly be announced when the latest round of CFDs are awarded. It will be close between onshore, offshore and solar.

    The main issue at the moment is the impact of covid on supply chains, so some costs have gone up.
    Makes sense.

    Land use competition was my thought re barriers. Not sure on initial capital outlay.
    Land use shouldn't be an issue for solar. Sheep farmers love them as they get an income from the land but can still use it to graze sheep from what I've been told (worked on lots of sites in a previous job and still have a couple). Most of the sites I've seen haven't really been suitable for much other than grazing as I believe (Big Bean might correct me) sloping land is the most efficient. The science in optimising sites is beyond me though, I've looked at plans and don't understand a thing!
    You wouldn't get planning permission on better grade land.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    edited April 2022
    pinno said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    pinno said:

    ...and some say Gretna.

    You're beyond banjo country there and into webbed fingers and toes territory.
    Don't you mix us up with them Wes' cuntry folks.
    We is civilized here; the Witch doctors use hand sanitizer and the women folk have finally learnt one end of a pot brush from the other.
    Let's not get started on the West Country. Even the locals know they are in high six territory.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,090

    masjer said:

    They were going to do a large project (tidal barrage) in Swansea, but that never got started.


    That was simply a massive scam to try and milk the public purse. As covered by Private Eye.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Wales/comments/8lfetm/the_rocky_shorrock_show_swansea_tidal_lagoon/

    https://www.theengineer.co.uk/government-swansea-bay-tidal-lagoon/

    The articles don't support your assertion that it was a massive scam.

    I was trying to find links to the multiple Private Eye pieces that have documented their shenanigans. It's been featured several times - basically trying to pull a fast one on tax-payers to enrich him & his wife, IIRC.
    Only someone with no experience of planning can be shocked at the idea a community fund might be contingent on a successful application. Even things like s106 costs are often largely irrelevant bungs.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,983

    masjer said:

    They were going to do a large project (tidal barrage) in Swansea, but that never got started.


    That was simply a massive scam to try and milk the public purse. As covered by Private Eye.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Wales/comments/8lfetm/the_rocky_shorrock_show_swansea_tidal_lagoon/

    https://www.theengineer.co.uk/government-swansea-bay-tidal-lagoon/

    The articles don't support your assertion that it was a massive scam.

    I was trying to find links to the multiple Private Eye pieces that have documented their shenanigans. It's been featured several times - basically trying to pull a fast one on tax-payers to enrich him & his wife, IIRC.
    Only someone with no experience of planning can be shocked at the idea a community fund might be contingent on a successful application. Even things like s106 costs are often largely irrelevant bungs.

    Maybe 'scheme' would have been a better word than 'scam' (unless you're of a more sceptical bent), but it seems that the couple have a history of chasing 'green' subsidies, but with little to show for it, whether wind or tidal.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,929

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    How on earth do you propose regulating the oil market?

    The government has a pretty big tax lever they can pull.

    But the only long term option is to cover Cambridgeshire with wind farms and solar farms.
    Explain this tax lever on the global oil market
    Sorry - meant prices that reach consumers.
    So you want the government to subsidise the oil industry? I thought they were the bad guys?
    It wouldn't be a subsidy, just less additional tax than levied on other products. As a means to smooth the cost of living crisis.

    But of course it isn't green and the govt needs the income, so isn't going to happen.

    Covering Cambridgeshire with renewables might, though.
    I'd be the first person supporting Cambridgeshire being turned into a massive solar farm. Go for it.

    Hell, I'll even quit my job and set up a recruitment job to hire all the people to go build it and run it.


    Blaming oil companies for drilling stuff we all currently need out of the ground and selling it at market rate is stupid.

    The "cost of living crisis" is not at the door of the oil companies. It's at the door of multiple decades of unequal policies that have allowed millions of people to live in relatively or absolutely poor circumstances, such they are not wealthy enough to survive price shocks.
    How about wind farms?
    I'm half Dutch.

    Windmills are sort of built into my idea of a good country. Go for it. Hell, stick one in my garden if it's efficient enough.

    I am not a NIMBY and I think "nature" views are overated.

    At least they will be something to see on the horizon. I quite like windmills.
    I think they look great
    Would you think that if you could see several hundred of them, in all 360 degrees around you? In that case I recommend you move to Carluke.

    There can be too much of a good thing.
    I think if I lived in the countryside that would be low on my list of complaints
    Carluke is a quite nice commuter town.
    I am sure it is but living in the sticks is not for me
    Don't you have a wood burning stove?
    The presence of a wood burning stove (I have two) does not mean it is the sticks.

    I live in Epsom which to me is borderline sticks.

    I work with somebody who sees Canary Wharf as the sticks and would not dream of going somewhere like Clapham. She went to Putney, once.
    Understandable.

    I went your way recently. Hobbledown.

    Epsom is definitely in the sticks.
    The locals might act like they are, but its still suburbia.
    Yes definitely suburbia. A couple of larger properties with a pony in a paddock don't count.
    Can I check Ashtead?

    If that is sticks then we may be able to draw a line on a map where suburbia ends and the sticks starts
    It's quite green and leafy, but still inside the M25. I dunno, you townies 🙄😁
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,639
    'Sticks', don't make me laugh.

    Some time ago in nineteen eleventy squiggles, we were in Narok, Western Kenya and a family member had an accident. I won't go into details.
    The closest hospital was near Rongai, foothills of Mount Kili. The flying doctor was miles away and he couldn't reach us. We drove the 180 miles on dirt roads, taking almost 10 hours to get there.
    Lucky because we were there just before the rainy season or else the roads would have been impassable.

    So when people mention 'sticks' in the UK, it underlines the insularity, naivety, narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses. I mean, i'm sorry but you haven't got a frikkin clue.
    There are pockets of 'sticks' in the UK like in the Highlands, Western Isles, Outer Hebrides, parts of Wales, some ickle wickle patches in the Peaks, North York Moors, Northumberland etc but you are never far from an urban area or a hospital.
    A friend of mine graduated from Uni and travelled overland to Australia. He worked the bars and hotels in Cape York and the Barrier reef, bought a VW Camper van with some guys he got to know and they travelled south... into the 'sticks'. What a story but miles and miles of heat and sand and rocks and not a lot else really.

    The UK: 66m people on a tiny Island with tiny...
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,090
    It might be a relative statement or are we going for a competition on who has been to the most stick like place?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    pinno said:

    'Sticks', don't make me laugh.

    Some time ago in nineteen eleventy squiggles, we were in Narok, Western Kenya and a family member had an accident. I won't go into details.
    The closest hospital was near Rongai, foothills of Mount Kili. The flying doctor was miles away and he couldn't reach us. We drove the 180 miles on dirt roads, taking almost 10 hours to get there.
    Lucky because we were there just before the rainy season or else the roads would have been impassable.

    So when people mention 'sticks' in the UK, it underlines the insularity, naivety, narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses. I mean, i'm sorry but you haven't got a frikkin clue.
    There are pockets of 'sticks' in the UK like in the Highlands, Western Isles, Outer Hebrides, parts of Wales, some ickle wickle patches in the Peaks, North York Moors, Northumberland etc but you are never far from an urban area or a hospital.
    A friend of mine graduated from Uni and travelled overland to Australia. He worked the bars and hotels in Cape York and the Barrier reef, bought a VW Camper van with some guys he got to know and they travelled south... into the 'sticks'. What a story but miles and miles of heat and sand and rocks and not a lot else really.

    The UK: 66m people on a tiny Island with tiny...

    OK, you win. The plastic stick trophy is in the post.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,509

    It might be a relative statement or are we going for a competition on who has been to the most stick like place?

    I think by any measure a town of a few tens of thousand, with a station a cinema and several shopping centres doesn't qualify.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,639

    It might be a relative statement or are we going for a competition on who has been to the most stick like place?

    No, it's just for some perspective and a reality check.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,900

    It might be a relative statement or are we going for a competition on who has been to the most stick like place?

    Or just plain old pisstaking
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,639

    It might be a relative statement or are we going for a competition on who has been to the most stick like place?

    Or just plain old pisstaking
    This too.
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  • rick_chasey
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,929
    edited April 2022
    pinno said:

    'Sticks', don't make me laugh.

    Some time ago in nineteen eleventy squiggles, we were in Narok, Western Kenya and a family member had an accident. I won't go into details.
    The closest hospital was near Rongai, foothills of Mount Kili. The flying doctor was miles away and he couldn't reach us. We drove the 180 miles on dirt roads, taking almost 10 hours to get there.
    Lucky because we were there just before the rainy season or else the roads would have been impassable.

    So when people mention 'sticks' in the UK, it underlines the insularity, naivety, narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses. I mean, i'm sorry but you haven't got a frikkin clue.
    There are pockets of 'sticks' in the UK like in the Highlands, Western Isles, Outer Hebrides, parts of Wales, some ickle wickle patches in the Peaks, North York Moors, Northumberland etc but you are never far from an urban area or a hospital.
    A friend of mine graduated from Uni and travelled overland to Australia. He worked the bars and hotels in Cape York and the Barrier reef, bought a VW Camper van with some guys he got to know and they travelled south... into the 'sticks'. What a story but miles and miles of heat and sand and rocks and not a lot else really.

    The UK: 66m people on a tiny Island with tiny...

    Feel better now? 😁
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,090

    It might be a relative statement or are we going for a competition on who has been to the most stick like place?

    Or just plain old pisstaking
    Not succinct enough for that.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Stevo_666 said:

    pinno said:

    'Sticks', don't make me laugh.

    Some time ago in nineteen eleventy squiggles, we were in Narok, Western Kenya and a family member had an accident. I won't go into details.
    The closest hospital was near Rongai, foothills of Mount Kili. The flying doctor was miles away and he couldn't reach us. We drove the 180 miles on dirt roads, taking almost 10 hours to get there.
    Lucky because we were there just before the rainy season or else the roads would have been impassable.

    So when people mention 'sticks' in the UK, it underlines the insularity, naivety, narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses. I mean, i'm sorry but you haven't got a frikkin clue.
    There are pockets of 'sticks' in the UK like in the Highlands, Western Isles, Outer Hebrides, parts of Wales, some ickle wickle patches in the Peaks, North York Moors, Northumberland etc but you are never far from an urban area or a hospital.
    A friend of mine graduated from Uni and travelled overland to Australia. He worked the bars and hotels in Cape York and the Barrier reef, bought a VW Camper van with some guys he got to know and they travelled south... into the 'sticks'. What a story but miles and miles of heat and sand and rocks and not a lot else really.

    The UK: 66m people on a tiny Island with tiny...

    OK, you win. The plastic stick trophy is in the post.
    If I had an irony meter it would have exploded

    narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022

    Stevo_666 said:

    pinno said:

    'Sticks', don't make me laugh.

    Some time ago in nineteen eleventy squiggles, we were in Narok, Western Kenya and a family member had an accident. I won't go into details.
    The closest hospital was near Rongai, foothills of Mount Kili. The flying doctor was miles away and he couldn't reach us. We drove the 180 miles on dirt roads, taking almost 10 hours to get there.
    Lucky because we were there just before the rainy season or else the roads would have been impassable.

    So when people mention 'sticks' in the UK, it underlines the insularity, naivety, narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses. I mean, i'm sorry but you haven't got a frikkin clue.
    There are pockets of 'sticks' in the UK like in the Highlands, Western Isles, Outer Hebrides, parts of Wales, some ickle wickle patches in the Peaks, North York Moors, Northumberland etc but you are never far from an urban area or a hospital.
    A friend of mine graduated from Uni and travelled overland to Australia. He worked the bars and hotels in Cape York and the Barrier reef, bought a VW Camper van with some guys he got to know and they travelled south... into the 'sticks'. What a story but miles and miles of heat and sand and rocks and not a lot else really.

    The UK: 66m people on a tiny Island with tiny...

    OK, you win. The plastic stick trophy is in the post.
    If I had an irony meter it would have exploded

    narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses

    Stevo_666 said:

    pinno said:

    'Sticks', don't make me laugh.

    Some time ago in nineteen eleventy squiggles, we were in Narok, Western Kenya and a family member had an accident. I won't go into details.
    The closest hospital was near Rongai, foothills of Mount Kili. The flying doctor was miles away and he couldn't reach us. We drove the 180 miles on dirt roads, taking almost 10 hours to get there.
    Lucky because we were there just before the rainy season or else the roads would have been impassable.

    So when people mention 'sticks' in the UK, it underlines the insularity, naivety, narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses. I mean, i'm sorry but you haven't got a frikkin clue.
    There are pockets of 'sticks' in the UK like in the Highlands, Western Isles, Outer Hebrides, parts of Wales, some ickle wickle patches in the Peaks, North York Moors, Northumberland etc but you are never far from an urban area or a hospital.
    A friend of mine graduated from Uni and travelled overland to Australia. He worked the bars and hotels in Cape York and the Barrier reef, bought a VW Camper van with some guys he got to know and they travelled south... into the 'sticks'. What a story but miles and miles of heat and sand and rocks and not a lot else really.

    The UK: 66m people on a tiny Island with tiny...

    OK, you win. The plastic stick trophy is in the post.
    If I had an irony meter it would have exploded

    narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses
    You've got the wrong end of the stick, so to say ;)
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,509
    edited April 2022
    I've just watched 18 privileged white people in a race between the only two teams that can take part.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,639

    Stevo_666 said:

    pinno said:

    'Sticks', don't make me laugh.

    Some time ago in nineteen eleventy squiggles, we were in Narok, Western Kenya and a family member had an accident. I won't go into details.
    The closest hospital was near Rongai, foothills of Mount Kili. The flying doctor was miles away and he couldn't reach us. We drove the 180 miles on dirt roads, taking almost 10 hours to get there.
    Lucky because we were there just before the rainy season or else the roads would have been impassable.

    So when people mention 'sticks' in the UK, it underlines the insularity, naivety, narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses. I mean, i'm sorry but you haven't got a frikkin clue.
    There are pockets of 'sticks' in the UK like in the Highlands, Western Isles, Outer Hebrides, parts of Wales, some ickle wickle patches in the Peaks, North York Moors, Northumberland etc but you are never far from an urban area or a hospital.
    A friend of mine graduated from Uni and travelled overland to Australia. He worked the bars and hotels in Cape York and the Barrier reef, bought a VW Camper van with some guys he got to know and they travelled south... into the 'sticks'. What a story but miles and miles of heat and sand and rocks and not a lot else really.

    The UK: 66m people on a tiny Island with tiny...

    OK, you win. The plastic stick trophy is in the post.
    If I had an irony meter it would have exploded

    narrow mindedness that les Rost Biff posses
    Yes, it's pretty universal.
    After all, you called Epsom borderline 'sticks'.
    Or is it that you - being of high importance, took offence to being called a Rost Biff?
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,929
    FFS, it's rosbif, not Rost Biff.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,639
    edited April 2022
    rjsterry said:

    FFS, it's rosbif, not Rost Biff.

    I'm dixlexic, poorly educated and cannot spell.

    Some pedantry RJS? because I do not see the irony even with the mistake.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,929
    Just trying to stay on topic. :smile:
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    pinno said:

    rjsterry said:

    FFS, it's rosbif, not Rost Biff.

    I'm dixlexic, poorly educated and cannot spell.

    Some pedantry RJS? because I do not see the irony even with the mistake.
    the irony is that you compained about "narrow mindedness" and then wrote a French expression in franglais
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    OH just been to the Gym, decided to fill the car up while she was out. No diesel at Tesco, Sainsburys or Co-Op. Managed to get some from Morrisons at £1.75. :#