Drugs in other sports and the media.
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From The Guardian:Several athletes have been suspended since the turn of 2016 after testing positive for the dug. Abebe Aregawi, the 2013 women’s 1,500m world champion, has been provisionally suspended after meldonium was found in an A sample she provided. Endeshaw Negesse, the 2015 Tokyo marathon champion, was also banned after reportedly testing positive for the same substance. Others include Olga Abramova and Artem Tyschcenko, two Ukrainian biathletes, Eduard Vorganov, a Russian cyclist and Ekaterina Bobrova, a Russian ice dancer.
I guess everyone should have got the message by now, even if they didn't get round to reading WADA updates!0 -
RichN95 wrote:If it's so great why are only Russian and ex-Soviet countries using a miracle product that is available on Amazon?
And Ethiopians, and at least one Swede (albeit of Ethiopian descent.)0 -
RichN95 wrote:
If it's so great why are almost only Russian and ex-Soviet countries using a miracle product that is available on Amazon?Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Speculation rife today in Russian media re a positive for a major Russian Olympic speed skating champion on this gear
This guy served a 2 year doping ban, returned, became a world class speed skate sprinter and now totally dominates the sprint scene in a way almost unprecented in the sport
So, no, I don't think it is a 'pretty crap' PED, Rich
Is it so good that you would willfully throw away a multi-million dollar brand on the hope you wouldn't get tested at a Grand Slam.
A lot more are going to be announced. And from what I understand, it will be far from just Russians & ex-Soviet countries athletes. There will be some from the West. Plus some from African countries have already been announced, more to follow.0 -
ShinyHelmut wrote:RichN95 wrote:If it's so great why are only Russian and ex-Soviet countries using a miracle product that is available on Amazon?
And Ethiopians, and at least one Swede (albeit of Ethiopian descent.)
She's Ethiopian, whatever the change to her passport. Lives & trains in Ethiopia.0 -
RichN95 wrote:
If it's so great why are almost only Russian and ex-Soviet countries using a miracle product that is available on Amazon?Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Speculation rife today in Russian media re a positive for a major Russian Olympic speed skating champion on this gear
This guy served a 2 year doping ban, returned, became a world class speed skate sprinter and now totally dominates the sprint scene in a way almost unprecented in the sport
So, no, I don't think it is a 'pretty crap' PED, Rich
Is it so good that you would willfully throw away a multi-million dollar brand on the hope you wouldn't get tested at a Grand Slam.
Dunno. Who cares. Her excuse is pretty implausible. Maybe they made a mistake in overlooking it becoming banned. Maybe they thought she wouldn't be tested. Maybe they thought she was too big a name to fall. Maybe she took the wrong tablets from her stash.
As an aside, is she really part of the Russian sporting regime? She has been US based since childhood I think, I remember seeing her on TransWorld Sport when she was about 12. Obviously she still competes as a Russian, but is it fair to use her as another stick to beat the Russian sporting authorities?0 -
Richmond Racer 2 wrote:She's Ethiopian, whatever the change to her passport. Lives & trains in Ethiopia.
That's certainly what she's telling the Swedish tax man.0 -
I forgive her. If she wants to seek asylum at my house she is more than welcome. I'm sure my forehand would improve.0
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RichN95 wrote:
If it's so great why are almost only Russian and ex-Soviet countries using a miracle product that is available on Amazon?Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Speculation rife today in Russian media re a positive for a major Russian Olympic speed skating champion on this gear
This guy served a 2 year doping ban, returned, became a world class speed skate sprinter and now totally dominates the sprint scene in a way almost unprecented in the sport
So, no, I don't think it is a 'pretty crap' PED, Rich
Is it so good that you would willfully throw away a multi-million dollar brand on the hope you wouldn't get tested at a Grand Slam.
Can I ask something Rich? Do you think Lance Armstrong ever took PEDs?0 -
RichN95 wrote:
If it's so great why are almost only Russian and ex-Soviet countries using a miracle product that is available on Amazon?Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Speculation rife today in Russian media re a positive for a major Russian Olympic speed skating champion on this gear
This guy served a 2 year doping ban, returned, became a world class speed skate sprinter and now totally dominates the sprint scene in a way almost unprecented in the sport
So, no, I don't think it is a 'pretty crap' PED, Rich
Is it so good that you would willfully throw away a multi-million dollar brand on the hope you wouldn't get tested at a Grand Slam.
Perhaps other athletes, supported with lavish public funding, maybe protected by a corrupt/incompetent leader, stopped before the testers came? Tennis has ignored match fixing for years and been an olympic sport since '88. Why would Sharapova imagine they'd suddenly care about PEDs?...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Marina Hyde @MarinaHyde: 'Hearing a lot from guys who "still would" with Maria Sharapova. World Anti-Dickhead Agency really struggling to keep pace here'
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Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Marina Hyde @MarinaHyde: 'Hearing a lot from guys who "still would" with Maria Sharapova. World Anti-Dickhead Agency really struggling to keep pace here'
Amen.
Perhaps they are just waiting for her to turn up at the local Wetherspoons for a pint of Skol and a bag of pork scratchings before making their move.0 -
Can you imagine powerful and dominant Serena Williams would be if she used PEDs?0
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YorkshireRaw wrote:Can you imagine powerful and dominant Serena Williams would be if she used PEDs?
It'd probably cause a bit of a panic.0 -
YorkshireRaw wrote:Can you imagine powerful and dominant Serena Williams would be if she used PEDs?
That statement makes the big assumption that she hasn't / doesn't use them.
She's a tennis player and tennis has totally ignored it's problems so far.0 -
Whoosh0
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Joelsim wrote:YorkshireRaw wrote:Can you imagine powerful and dominant Serena Williams would be if she used PEDs?
It'd probably cause a bit of a panic.
There's no room for this kind of innuendo in Tennis0 -
The Froome testing may have been the tipping point.
I'm now declaring my position that doping talk is boring.
It's boring when based on speculation and even more boring based on fact.
#Drexit“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
YorkshireRaw wrote:Can you imagine powerful and dominant Serena Williams would be if she used PEDs?
You are telling me that you don't think the brother Williams haven't used peds in their career?0 -
Up until 31st Dec this want on the banned list - it is now and she got caught. The reasons why she took it and whether her entourage should have advised her better are all debatable. However a good proportion on this forum seems to take the view that if you are caught hold your hands up and come back clean (Millar for example) then this is seen as much better than the no remorse dopers that fight tooth and nail overturn a cut and dry test and still count results when they have been expunged (Contador, JTL, Valverde, Vino et al).
IMO - good to see she has accepted strict liability, is prepared to take the ban and go from there - cynics may say this is a ploy to show contrition for a substance that only weeks before wasn't banned with the hope of a shorter ban - however better this than a long drawn out legal fight or the farce where they still compete whilst they fight it then lose the appeal and are banned.0 -
Richmond Racer 2 wrote:RichN95 wrote:
If it's so great why are almost only Russian and ex-Soviet countries using a miracle product that is available on Amazon?Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Speculation rife today in Russian media re a positive for a major Russian Olympic speed skating champion on this gear
This guy served a 2 year doping ban, returned, became a world class speed skate sprinter and now totally dominates the sprint scene in a way almost unprecented in the sport
So, no, I don't think it is a 'pretty crap' PED, Rich
Is it so good that you would willfully throw away a multi-million dollar brand on the hope you wouldn't get tested at a Grand Slam.
A lot more are going to be announced. And from what I understand, it will be far from just Russians & ex-Soviet countries athletes. There will be some from the West. Plus some from African countries have already been announced, more to follow.
Aaaaand there we go. Said speed skater, Pavel Kulizhnikov. Positive for the drug du jour, Meldonium0 -
ThomThom wrote:YorkshireRaw wrote:Can you imagine powerful and dominant Serena Williams would be if she used PEDs?
You are telling me that you don't think the brother Williams haven't used peds in their career?
I'm presuming the OP said that with a tongue in cheek.0 -
ddraver wrote:Do WADA publish the list in Russian?
WADA do their website, and email comms etc, and then the NADOs and intl Feds do their comms too (emails to flag up to look at latest lists. websites etc).p - And yes, this includes Russia. It's also covered by various sports media outlets.
Certain Russian tweeters have been tweeting screenshots of the notice posted on the RUSADA website since 30 Sep last year.
As per their practice, WADA gave 3 months notice last Autumn of the change effective 1 Jan
In the case of Sharapova, she admits that last Dec she saw the 'Oi athletes, the list has changed, CLICK HERE' email...and didn't
Next week, WADA wipes multi-millionaires noses for them but get complaints for not using those nice balsam tissues0 -
Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Richmond Racer 2 wrote:RichN95 wrote:
If it's so great why are almost only Russian and ex-Soviet countries using a miracle product that is available on Amazon?Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Speculation rife today in Russian media re a positive for a major Russian Olympic speed skating champion on this gear
This guy served a 2 year doping ban, returned, became a world class speed skate sprinter and now totally dominates the sprint scene in a way almost unprecented in the sport
So, no, I don't think it is a 'pretty crap' PED, Rich
Is it so good that you would willfully throw away a multi-million dollar brand on the hope you wouldn't get tested at a Grand Slam.
A lot more are going to be announced. And from what I understand, it will be far from just Russians & ex-Soviet countries athletes. There will be some from the West. Plus some from African countries have already been announced, more to follow.
Aaaaand there we go. Said speed skater, Pavel Kulizhnikov. Positive for the drug du jour, Meldonium
Yep, and another Russian, shorttracker Elistratov as well. Never heard about this meldonium, but it seems popular.0 -
To detect potential patterns of abuse telmisartan and mildronate have been added to the 2015 Monitoring Program
2015 Prohibited List Published by World Anti-Doping Agency 01/10/2014...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Amazing that someone who lives her life, by all accounts, to maximise every minute of the day to keep herself in tip-top shape, can overlook something like this.
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Amateurs. Cyclists ain't got no time for this poor man's drug! Ahead of the game, as always!0
