Drugs in other sports and the media.

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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Any public funding for the olympic circus is now morally indefensible. Let corporate sponsors kiss the rings.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    *Sharapova Comment*
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    ddraver wrote:
    *Sharapova Comment*

    ??
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  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,125
    Beeb breaking news
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,601
    She's failed a test. Claims it's a drug within a medicine she's been using for years that has just been added to the banned list.
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Meldonium catching a lot of athletes out eh?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Our old friend Iainf is on fire tonight...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,579
    Amazing that a tennis player has even been tested, let alone failed a test.
  • topper_harley
    topper_harley Posts: 597
    i'd be wanting my money back if i were her, she is f*cking pish
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    I thought tennis liked to keep this in house. Who released this info ?
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Anyone know the therapeutic use she might have needed this for 10 years for? I suppose I'm asking if it's plausible.

    Either way I bet she'll get a greatly reduced/suspended ban.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Anyone know the therapeutic use she might have needed this for 10 years for? I suppose I'm asking if it's plausible.

    Either way I bet she'll get a greatly reduced/suspended ban.
    It's used as a treatment for heart conditions I believe.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,728
    Tennis serves up an ace.
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    I see wiki for melodium has been updated already - says she took it for magnesium deficiency, family diabetes history and irregular cardiogram (my comment - potentially interlinked).

    Claims she didn't read the email from wada. It seems top tennisers don't have PAs or sports medicine advisors.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Sir Craig Weedle has already suggested just 1 year for Meldonium.

    Anyone would think he was pandering to the Russians...

    Another Nike bites the dust. Coe has a bit of respite
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Not a Sharapova fan but in her defence at least she has agreed that it's her responsibility if it's in her body whether it was intentional or not which is a step up from most who get caught.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Why is she announcing this herself ? Sure the ITF or WADA should be doing that ?
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    sherer wrote:
    Why is she announcing this herself ? Sure the ITF or WADA should be doing that ?
    She's taking responsibility. Coming out and telling the world herself before the authorities. Now that could be seen as breaking the news on her terms and putting her own spin on it. Or you could view it as wanting to confront her failed test head on and admitting to it.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    It's not adding up. Family doctor prescribed it before it had been deemed safe? 2006.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meldonium
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Meh. So she didn't check the rule changes and got caught out. I don't really share the excitement about this.
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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    So why is this banned ? What is the benefit to an athlete ?
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    edited March 2016
    RichN95 wrote:
    Meh. So she didn't check the rule changes and got caught out. I don't really share the excitement about this.

    You never do Rich. Maybe your vocation is chief Pie Taster at the IAAF.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    sherer wrote:
    So why is this banned ? What is the benefit to an athlete ?

    Increased endurance.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Joelsim wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Meh. So she didn't check the rule changes and got caught out. I don't really share the excitement about this.

    You never do Rich. Maybe your vocation is chief Pie Taster at the IAAF.
    In the same way that you think everyone is a dishonest cheat, I think everyone is basically incompetent.

    She and lots of other athletes were taking this - perfectly legally. Then they banned it. As with any rule change in life (smoking bans, seat belt laws, 5p plastic bags), some take longer to get the message than others.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,351
    edited March 2016
    Respect to her for coming out before an ITF or WADA statement. That takes some courage. She is also not in the denial and denial ad nauseum vein of other athletes and makes the admission that it was wrong and she shouldn't have done it even if it was according to her, unknowingly.
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  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    It would be interesting if she and other tennis players issued a full list of the drugs they take over the course of a month. She's been taking it for 10 years (since the age of 18??) which if its the only thing she takes seems plausible as a medicine however of its just one of 15 different 'medicines' then somewhat less credible.
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    RichN95 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Meh. So she didn't check the rule changes and got caught out. I don't really share the excitement about this.

    You never do Rich. Maybe your vocation is chief Pie Taster at the IAAF.
    In the same way that you think everyone is a dishonest cheat, I think everyone is basically incompetent.

    She and lots of other athletes were taking this - perfectly legally. Then they banned it. As with any rule change in life (smoking bans, seat belt laws, 5p plastic bags), some take longer to get the message than others.

    Rich, this drug isn't even approved to use medicinally by doctors on real patients in the US. Where she lives. Either she's as thick as the big print version of the complete works of Shakespeare, or she's telling little porky pies.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,351
    According to Willy Voet in that book, the list of substances that he considered as potentially 'performance enhancing drugs' that were not on the banned list was huge. Does this make the licit and the illicit subjective? Apart from the big stuff like EPO, Testosterone, steroids etc of course.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Joelsim wrote:

    Rich, this drug isn't even approved to use medicinally by doctors on real patients in the US. Where she lives. Either she's as thick as the big print version of the complete works of Shakespeare, or she's telling little porky pies.
    She's probably been taking it for performance reasons, and until recently, perfectly legally. But that won't play well in the court of public opinion. So she's used the medical excuse - more incompetence.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Pinno wrote:
    According to Willy Voet in that book, the list of substances that he considered as potentially 'performance enhancing drugs' that were not on the banned list was huge. Does this make the licit and the illicit subjective? Apart from the big stuff like EPO, Testosterone, steroids etc of course.
    No. It's not subjective. WADA produce a list so that it's not. And they consult people with better scientific credentials that a soigneur.
    Twitter: @RichN95

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