Drugs in other sports and the media.
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Dunno if its been posted before, but this quote from Oscar Pereiro sums up the situation pretty well:
"There was a player who had transfusions to improve their performance and is idolised today," Pereiro told Cadena Cope. "There was a player who used a growth hormone and is idolised today.
If we give the same treatment to cyclists and to those in other sports, one is doped up to their eyeballs and the other is someone who works for their club.
It's not about defending cycling and throwing s**t at other sports, but I wish you [the media] would give the same treatment to other sports when you recognize certain things.
The day I'm paid €1 million, like many have been paid, I'll say yes or no [about whether I've doped or not]."0 -
Not sure I get this.
Not sure I've seen any Athletics mags calling Ben of Flo-Jo a hero...unlike many many cyclists, proven dopers, who are still revered and idolised.0 -
Joelsim wrote:Not sure I get this.
Not sure I've seen any Athletics mags calling Ben of Flo-Jo a hero...unlike many many cyclists, proven dopers, who are still revered and idolised.
I think you will find it refers to footballers. I posted an article about footballers doping.
Zidane for instance doped.0 -
Plus Barca paid for Messi to have HGH treatment, although the full details of that case seem to say he had medical grounds for itrayjay wrote:Joelsim wrote:Not sure I get this.
Not sure I've seen any Athletics mags calling Ben of Flo-Jo a hero...unlike many many cyclists, proven dopers, who are still revered and idolised.
I think you will find it refers to footballers. I posted an article about footballers doping.
Zidane for instance doped.0 -
When you start to bring up necessary medical treatment for an 11 year old boy as a doping case, that's when you need to take a step back and consider what sort of person you have become.sherer wrote:Plus Barca paid for Messi to have HGH treatment, although the full details of that case seem to say he had medical grounds for itTwitter: @RichN950 -
Bit harsh Rich, I thought sherer's comment was suitably qualified. Pretty sure that is who Pereiro was referring to as well so clearly relevant.0
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Completely unfounded idle gossip to follow:
I was told that an Argentinian tennis player received growth hormone treatment as a kid - not for medical reasons, but as an investment in his future tennis career. Now that's wrong.0 -
Juliet Macur @JulietMacur Feb 7
2 biathletes got away with doping at the 2002 Olympics. They tested positive, but IOC never pursued the cases. http://nyti.ms/1f051gl #sochi0 -
Biathlon has a big doping problem. It's not far off where cycling used to be.
News just through of another biathlete testing positive OOC last Dec0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:Biathlon has a big doping problem. It's not far off where cycling used to be.
News just through of another biathlete testing positive OOC last Dec
Where cycling still is...how many riders been busted, under suspicion in the last few months? JTL ,Rodgers, Di Luca, Ballan, etc etc
How many Biathletes?0 -
rayjay wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:Biathlon has a big doping problem. It's not far off where cycling used to be.
News just through of another biathlete testing positive OOC last Dec
Where cycling still is...how many riders been busted, under suspicion in the last few months? JTL ,Rodgers, Di Luca, Ballan, etc etc
How many Biathletes?
Be fair, Ballan and Di Luca were busted a long time ago. The outcome of the lengthy processes around their cases merely became known recently.
Maybe you'd know more Biathlon positives if you followed the sport."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Oh and JTL hasn't been busted for anything. Top, top libelling."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
@gietvangent0 -
ddraver wrote:There were 2 Biathletes kicked out a few weeks before the Olympics - one of which is the Darling of the Russian Team...
Yeah - bit embarrassing just before Sochi kicked off0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:Oh and JTL hasn't been busted for anything. Top, top libelling.
Go read my post again, I think you will find I use the words UNDER SUSPICION ,,,, sue me
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Does that Norwegian chap still compete, Ole Einor Bjorndalen [ might not be the right spelling] I remember watching him on telly.
He was pretty good.0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:ddraver wrote:There were 2 Biathletes kicked out a few weeks before the Olympics - one of which is the Darling of the Russian Team...
Yeah - bit embarrassing just before Sochi kicked off
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/sp ... ?referrer=0 -
rayjay wrote:Does that Norwegian chap still compete, Ole Einor Bjorndalen [ might not be the right spelling] I remember watching him on telly.
He was pretty good.
won gold in something the other day
some comparison on twitter to Horner, or rather the contrasting media coverage.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Very Impressive record ..I see what you mean about the Horner comparisons.
SOCHI, Russia — Ole Einar Bjoerndalen of Norway won the men’s 10-kilometer sprint Saturday at the Sochi Games for his seventh career Olympic gold medal.
Bjoerndalen also tied a Winter Olympic record with his 12th overall medal, matching fellow Norwegian Bjoern Daehlie’s 12 achieved in cross-country skiing.
Bjoerndalen turned 40 last month, making him the oldest ever winner of an individual biathlon competition at the Olympics.
Bjoerndalen missed one target before finishing in 24 minutes, 33.5 seconds.
I might start watching a bit more of the biathlon, It looks so knackering.
Bjoerndalen will have to remain competitive for a few more decades if he wants to break the overall oldest mark, though. Swedish shooter Oscar Swahn was 64 when he won a gold medal in the Stockholm Games in 1912
Could you imagine a 64 years old Horner winning a GT0 -
I've tried everything, but I can't address the soggy soul of my croutons without incinerating the extremities. Suggestions?...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0
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Interestingly a commentator answered a tweet about how biathlon athletes cope with a pounding heart when shooting in the standing position with: 'as their heart beats are so fast coming into the shoot, upwards of 180 to 200 beats per minute, the effect of so many beats per second creates a fairly calm affect that doesn't affect their aim!'
Chapeau or what?!'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP0 -
Macaloon wrote:I've tried everything, but I can't address the soggy soul of my croutons without incinerating the extremities. Suggestions?
I'd suggest Rayjay's post is entirely in keeping with the thread title/topic and doesn't warrant that response.
That's not he say he's not a mentalist however
Stale bread is the answer.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Back to the topic;
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/lifestyle/article/2000104750/more-kenyan-runners-discovered-to-be-using-performance-enhancing-drugs
Some of the reporting and comments read depressingly like the cycling press c10 years ago.0 -
rayjay wrote:Very Impressive record ..I see what you mean about the Horner comparisons.
SOCHI, Russia — Ole Einar Bjoerndalen of Norway won the men’s 10-kilometer sprint Saturday at the Sochi Games for his seventh career Olympic gold medal.
Bjoerndalen also tied a Winter Olympic record with his 12th overall medal, matching fellow Norwegian Bjoern Daehlie’s 12 achieved in cross-country skiing.
Bjoerndalen turned 40 last month, making him the oldest ever winner of an individual biathlon competition at the Olympics.
Bjoerndalen missed one target before finishing in 24 minutes, 33.5 seconds.
I might start watching a bit more of the biathlon, It looks so knackering.
Bjoerndalen will have to remain competitive for a few more decades if he wants to break the overall oldest mark, though. Swedish shooter Oscar Swahn was 64 when he won a gold medal in the Stockholm Games in 1912
Could you imagine a 64 years old Horner winning a GT
If Horner carries on improving...then when he gets older, losing his hair...he'll be untouchable.0 -
ShinyHelmut wrote:Back to the topic;
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/lifestyle/article/2000104750/more-kenyan-runners-discovered-to-be-using-performance-enhancing-drugs
Some of the reporting and comments read depressingly like the cycling press c10 years ago.
Mo Farah has recently done a TV commercial a la Lance too!
"People say what's your secret. But there's no secret..."
I guess only time will tell whether it's the Quorn.0 -
test for blood transfusions 3 years away now
http://t.co/tUE0TaxqIB0 -
A good article about Tyson Gay;
http://propub.ca/1lHB3qt
Either quite spectacularly stupid or a spectacularly stupid cheat it would appear.0 -
ShinyHelmut wrote:A good article about Tyson Gay;
http://propub.ca/1lHB3qt
Either quite spectacularly stupid or a spectacularly stupid cheat it would appear.
Or it's a total bolloc*s concocted story to deflect from the fact that he was on a proper steroids programme.0 -
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