Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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mfin wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:LeicesterLad wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:
Jesus F*cking wept, what have they been feeding these morons?
The Spanish sure are coming out in support of Armstrong arent they :roll:
The Badger - I wont hear a word against
Amazing analysis of the case from Injurebrain :roll:
What's Hinault said??
"I couldn't give a sh!t, It's his problem, not mine. This is a problem that should have been sorted out 10 or 15 years ago but which never was.""In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Indurain still recognises Armstrong as the TDF winner. Who is more important? USADA or Lance's peers? Remove 20 years of wins is best or leave it be as you know they all did that stuff0
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disgruntledgoat wrote:
It does make you wonder if they are actually genuinely deluded and really don’t think they have done anything wrong!
I guess they don’t want to admit to themselves that he cheated.Mañana0 -
pb21 wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:
It does make you wonder if they are actually genuinely deluded and really don’t think they have done anything wrong!
I guess they don’t want to admit to themselves that he cheated.
Indurain, Jalabert and Sam Sanchez support Armstrong at the moment. I do not agree with leaving the results vacant either.0 -
In Indurain's case I think it is more that he doesn't want to admit that he himself cheated.pb21 wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:
It does make you wonder if they are actually genuinely deluded and really don’t think they have done anything wrong!
I guess they don’t want to admit to themselves that he cheated.0 -
nathancom wrote:
In Indurain's case I think it is more that he doesn't want to admit that he himself cheated.pb21 wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:
It does make you wonder if they are actually genuinely deluded and really don’t think they have done anything wrong!
I guess they don’t want to admit to themselves that he cheated.
and maybe same for Jaja0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:nathancom wrote:
In Indurain's case I think it is more that he doesn't want to admit that he himself cheated.pb21 wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:
It does make you wonder if they are actually genuinely deluded and really don’t think they have done anything wrong!
I guess they don’t want to admit to themselves that he cheated.
and maybe same for Jaja
Yeah of course, by saying Armstrong doped and is bad he would be allowing himself to say he was bad too. I guess they must’ve realised that what they were doing was wrong initially and then lived with doing something wrong for years. It must help to try and tell yourself you aren’t doing anything wrong, it’s the people trying to get you who are.
If you created that kind of myth and based your whole life around it to help you feel better, it’s going to be hard to then go back to reality.Mañana0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:nathancom wrote:
In Indurain's case I think it is more that he doesn't want to admit that he himself cheated.pb21 wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:
It does make you wonder if they are actually genuinely deluded and really don’t think they have done anything wrong!
I guess they don’t want to admit to themselves that he cheated.
and maybe same for Jaja
well, I saw Jalabert at 1990 worlds come 4th to Dhanens, Lemond and Bugno. He was 19 or 20. I did struggle to believe that. I also struggled to believe Lance at GP Zurich 1992 at 20 coming 2nd to Ekimov and then Worlds 1993. They were on everything they could get at the time. The USADA investigation needs repeated in Spain and France. They will find they need to airbrush results too0 -
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
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Robert Millar's take on yesterday's UCI report
http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robert ... re-minimum
He's far too clever not to be still involved in cycling eh - Gottheteeshirt should come back to the forum 8)0 -
Gazzetta67 wrote:Robert Millar's take on yesterday's UCI report
http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robert ... re-minimum
He's far too clever not to be still involved in cycling eh - Gottheteeshirt should come back to the forum 8)
Superb from Millar - I wish he would come back into the sport, though I've no doubt he's much happier where he is. Thanks from posting0 -
Makes me think of Jonathan Wild, the Thief-taker General, and how power and influence become twisted.iainf72 wrote:0 -
So, EPO was widely available in 1993 Millar explains.."the new super" my avatar called it, which means it was available well before. Bugno's change from 1989 dropped TDF rider to Giro winner 1990 makes so much more sense now. Chiapuccis 1991 San Remo too. Well done Mottet.0
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I'll tell you one thing I'd do if I had any say at the UCI.
I'd hold that meeting a damn sight sooner than Friday. If people can't be got together before Friday, they should be made to. There can hardly be any single thing more important for them to discuss right now!
I've never known an End Game to drag on for so long, on any subject, on any person, anywhere (apart from war criminals before someone ripostes with that).
It was bad enough waiting for the Landis end game to conclude, and the Contador one, but this is much worse.
Grrrr.0 -
KNWU (Dutch equiv to BC) thinking of breaking apart from UCI
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate ... CF0Q7gEwCAWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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ddraver wrote:KNWU (Dutch equiv to BC) thinking of breaking apart from UCI
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate ... CF0Q7gEwCA
I'm start to get the tiniest glimmer of hope that Pat's appalling performance yesterday could just possibly end up being the best thing for cycling...
Brian Cookson's been getting it in the ear
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/ ... -Cookson-0
I think it was INRNG last night who RT'd that a vote of no confidence in the UCI, has been tabled for the next Cycling Ireland management meeting0 -
Just watched Sky Sports news there and they had on Scott Mercier who refused to dope for US Postal and was another shown the door. He came across as ver decent guy and was very critical of McQuaid and called armstrong pathetic for still not coming out. Sorry that i could not post a link..maybe some tech junkie could try and post it up
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stand by your beds....Vaughters interview with Sky Sports about to land, with him (in the capacity of AIGCP Pres) calling for independent commission to review the UCI's anti-doping record in the last decade...
this should be good....0 -
Valverde decides Big Mig and Samuel Sanchez should have to share the limelight.
http://www.marca.com/2012/10/23/ciclism ... 01213.html0 -
Turfle wrote:Valverde decides Big Mig and Samuel Sanchez should have to share the limelight.
http://www.marca.com/2012/10/23/ciclism ... 01213.html
Colour me farking surprised. Piti doesnt think Lancey should have been stripped of the titles, and asks why the sport looks backwards
BECAUSE OF CHEATS AND LIARS LIKE YOU, YOU GIT
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In more surprising news, Merckx actually says something quite sensible
http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/ ... -Armstrong0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:In more surprising news, Merckx actually says something quite sensible
http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/ ... -Armstrong
Merckx is an utter hypocrite.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/merckx- ... -armstrongWarning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
Managed to find the Interview i mentioned earlier with Scott Mercier ex US Postal rider
A guy with morals unlike some of those spanish gits praising armstrong, Video link below.
http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0 ... 33,00.html0 -
No tA Doctor wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:In more surprising news, Merckx actually says something quite sensible
http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/ ... -Armstrong
Merckx is an utter hypocrite.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/merckx- ... -armstrong
I know, I know. We COULD give him the benefit of the doubt that the welter of the full report has made him see the error of his ways.
Or we could just say that he's a hypocrite who's picked up the zeitgeist0 -
Merckx introduced Armstrong to Ferrari.
He's talking sense on this issue for once but not fooling anyone.0 -
tommasi wrote:Merckx introduced Armstrong to Ferrari.
He's talking sense on this issue for once but not fooling anyone.
Shoot. Forgot that minor point :oops:0 -
No tA Doctor wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:In more surprising news, Merckx actually says something quite sensible
http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/ ... -Armstrong
Merckx is an utter hypocrite.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/merckx- ... -armstrong
+1 And does'nt Axel manage the Livestrong development team or whatever the hell it is ? No conflict of interest there then eh :roll: .0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:No tA Doctor wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:In more surprising news, Merckx actually says something quite sensible
http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/ ... -Armstrong
Merckx is an utter hypocrite.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/merckx- ... -armstrong
I know, I know. We COULD give him the benefit of the doubt that the welter of the full report has made him see the error of his ways.
Or we could just say that he's a hypocrite who's picked up the zeitgeist
Well given that Lance didn't deny ("I dont recall") that Merckx introduced him to Ferrari, but acknowledged Merckx and Ferrari were friends, I'm going with my original call.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
Indurain, Jalabert, Sanchez, JAMIE STAFF (who the **** is he when he's at home) - Armstrong must have something on these folk. dont mention spanish doctors eh.0
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Do neither Indurain or Valverde realise they don't actually have to say anything?
Yes it looks bad if they're asked by a journalist for their opinion and they don't give it, it looks like they are hiding something :roll: but this just looks worse.
We all know why neither of them think Lance should be stripped of his titles, so at least say nothing and people might think you're a fool rather than open your mouth and confirm it.Correlation is not causation.0
