Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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Good to see Valverde burnishing his scumbag credentials
"Why now?" Because they were under oath you utter clownshoe!"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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The Spanish riders are proving themselves a credit to the sport. What's next, they want EPO syringes added to their musettes.0
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Cav on the subject...
http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/ ... of-cycling
looking at his twitter feed today, seems Cav's only just getting started in his robust defence of cycling...0 -
Yeah, go for it Pat. You won't find anyone from the UCI using overly emotive language.___________________
Strava is not Zen.0 -
So are there any Armstrong Apologists left? When was the Livestrong Charity last audited? Are we sure this charity has been run according to all the rules and all donations and expenditure accounted for?0
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Richmond Racer wrote:
One of the more sensible responses but I'm sure the Cav haters will find something to pick up on (probably the comment that the sport is now clean which is always a dangerous statement - I assume he meant cleaner?). It's good that he also commented on other sports and their lack of interest in testing.0 -
Certainly a bit better than Cuddles' statement:
http://www.cadelevans.com.au/cadelsdiary.aspx
Referring to 'hysteria' and 'sensationalism' is not helpful, nor is trying the 'it was just a minority' line. His own team's managers of Rhis and Och, should be in the spotlight.0 -
The BBC report on LAs appearance at the Livestrong event this week: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/200146300
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Just reading the Valverde nonsense again...
Ironically, this"The Tours were won with his legs, his body and let no one believe that he did not suffer for his success,"
Is the exact nonsense Frenchie used to peddle in support of Valverde!"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Interesting (ish) read
http://road.cc/content/news/69446-lance ... a-catch-22
The fall-out continues from the Lance Armstrong doping scandal. Yesterday the cycling's world governing body - the UCI -ratified the sanctions imposed on Armstrong by the United States Anti-Doping Agency… with certain caveats in its own UCI Decision. Last night USADA's head Travis Tygart responded, and he wasn't happy about those caveats.
And well he might not be. The UCI's Decision has the tone of a playground bully who's just come up against a bigger bully but is determined to wheedle away at its tormentor, landing the odd blow even as it is forced to give in. Like all proper playground bullies the UCI knows how to deliver a sly kick in the balls.
Essentially the UCI's position is that it accepts the penalties imposed by USADA primarily because Armstrong chose not to defend the charge - which meant the matter became purely disciplinary - the UCI already accepts USADA's jurisdiction in disciplinary proceedings regarding US cyclists.
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At today's Tour presentation, Marc Madiot to a French journo re doping:
'There is a country that has still not understood. You know as well as I.."
You tell it, Marc0 -
Just seen a tweet from a BBC journalist quoting Wiggo as saying, 'LA is like Father Christmas, we know he doesn't exist now.'0
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Apparently so. https://twitter.com/mattslaterbbc/statu ... 6314469376ddraver wrote:^Hah! Really?0 -
Trev The Rev wrote:So are there any Armstrong Apologists left? When was the Livestrong Charity last audited? Are we sure this charity has been run according to all the rules and all donations and expenditure accounted for?
Yup, I would love to have the accounts of Livestrong made public & the names of people claiming expenses against working and running the charity (they may well be Im not sure, anyone?). Especially in a year or so, just because LA has removed his name, does not mean he wont still be claiming expenses. Charities are notorious dodges.0 -
Nick Fitt wrote:Trev The Rev wrote:So are there any Armstrong Apologists left? When was the Livestrong Charity last audited? Are we sure this charity has been run according to all the rules and all donations and expenditure accounted for?
Yup, I would love to have the accounts of Livestrong made public & the names of people claiming expenses against working and running the charity (they may well be Im not sure, anyone?). Especially in a year or so, just because LA has removed his name, does not mean he wont still be claiming expenses. SOME Charities are notorious dodges.
Fixed that for ya.0 -
Nick Fitt wrote:Trev The Rev wrote:So are there any Armstrong Apologists left? When was the Livestrong Charity last audited? Are we sure this charity has been run according to all the rules and all donations and expenditure accounted for?
Yup, I would love to have the accounts of Livestrong made public & the names of people claiming expenses against working and running the charity (they may well be Im not sure, anyone?). Especially in a year or so, just because LA has removed his name, does not mean he wont still be claiming expenses. Charities are notorious dodges.
LA is still a director, he only stepped down from the exec chairman role.0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:Just reading the Valverde nonsense again...
Ironically, this"The Tours were won with his legs, his body and let no one believe that he did not suffer for his success,"
Is the exact nonsense Frenchie used to peddle in support of Valverde!
Ironically he did win 7 tours with his legs and body and most likely suffered a bit too.
It's truth, not nonsense. Maybe someday they will lop off some dopers heads and put them on stakes for all to see. Let's hope that will satisfy your need for justice but I doubt it. You got fooled, or at least you think so, and nothing can really soothe that feeling. Right? :?0 -
Also audit how much of their advertising is really just a fat Cancer ShieldNick Fitt wrote:Trev The Rev wrote:So are there any Armstrong Apologists left? When was the Livestrong Charity last audited? Are we sure this charity has been run according to all the rules and all donations and expenditure accounted for?
Yup, I would love to have the accounts of Livestrong made public & the names of people claiming expenses against working and running the charity (they may well be Im not sure, anyone?). Especially in a year or so, just because LA has removed his name, does not mean he wont still be claiming expenses. Charities are notorious dodges.
Bog off Dennis, go and worship Lance somewhere else.0 -
Probably didn't suffer quite as much as those that did it clean though Dennis, huh?dennisn wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Just reading the Valverde nonsense again...
Ironically, this"The Tours were won with his legs, his body and let no one believe that he did not suffer for his success,"
Is the exact nonsense Frenchie used to peddle in support of Valverde!
Ironically he did win 7 tours with his legs and body and most likely suffered a bit too.
It's truth, not nonsense. Maybe someday they will lop off some dopers heads and put them on stakes for all to see. Let's hope that will satisfy your need for justice but I doubt it. You got fooled, or at least you think so, and nothing can really soothe that feeling. Right? :?0 -
Contador is the Greatest0 -
Frenchie, that says it perfectly 8)0
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Slim Boy Fat wrote:
Probably didn't suffer quite as much as those that did it clean though Dennis, huh?dennisn wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Just reading the Valverde nonsense again...
Ironically, this"The Tours were won with his legs, his body and let no one believe that he did not suffer for his success,"
Is the exact nonsense Frenchie used to peddle in support of Valverde!
Ironically he did win 7 tours with his legs and body and most likely suffered a bit too.
It's truth, not nonsense. Maybe someday they will lop off some dopers heads and put them on stakes for all to see. Let's hope that will satisfy your need for justice but I doubt it. You got fooled, or at least you think so, and nothing can really soothe that feeling. Right? :?
And who would that have been? :?0 -
ddraver wrote:^Hah! Really?
In full from Wiggo (as per SSN reports it anyway):
"I think there is a lot of anger from most people within the sport, it is a sport I love and have always loved," he said.
"It is a shame that cycling is being dragged through this again really, not a shame that he has been caught - when you get older you start to realise Father Christmas doesn't exist and it is the same with Lance.
"But it is a shame that us riders here now, we are the one picking the pieces up and having to convince people."
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Well in Leipheimer's affidavit he stated a figure of 'at least 50%' who were doping during the tour so that leaves quite a few who weren't. Then again you would know that Dennis because you have read the whole USADA reasoned decision Dennis haven't you, so that you can reach an informed opinion about all of this.dennisn wrote:Slim Boy Fat wrote:
Probably didn't suffer quite as much as those that did it clean though Dennis, huh?dennisn wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:Just reading the Valverde nonsense again...
Ironically, this"The Tours were won with his legs, his body and let no one believe that he did not suffer for his success,"
Is the exact nonsense Frenchie used to peddle in support of Valverde!
Ironically he did win 7 tours with his legs and body and most likely suffered a bit too.
It's truth, not nonsense. Maybe someday they will lop off some dopers heads and put them on stakes for all to see. Let's hope that will satisfy your need for justice but I doubt it. You got fooled, or at least you think so, and nothing can really soothe that feeling. Right? :?
And who would that have been? :?0 -
dennisn wrote:You got fooled, or at least you think so, and nothing can really soothe that feeling. Right? :?
Dennis you are so silly, really, go back to the beginning and start again. No-one was fooled except you, the Yanks, right the way to the top, lock stock and barrel. We, the cycling fans, all knew what was going on but you guys just love something as 'awesome as Lance'. Now, everyone knows what was going on. You, the silly little noise from afar (collectively known as the USA) was fooled, not us. Go 'Big League Topless Bass Fishing' or fire some guns, or watch some Presidential Elections or just shoot some pool.0 -
Seriously how would he (LL) have known who wasn't. These people have lied for years, I'm sure he mainly told the truth in the end, but I'm far from convinced these people are any more honest they they think they need to be. In terms of actual numbers he knows what he saw, what he heard, but any kind of number is as likely to be accurate from you and me as it is from Levi.Slim Boy Fat wrote:Well in Leipheimer's affidavit he stated a figure of 'at least 50%' who were doping during the tour so that leaves quite a few who weren't. Then again you would know that Dennis because you have read the whole USADA reasoned decision Dennis haven't you, so that you can reach an informed opinion about all of this.
Dennis comes on here for a row, he's mildly interested in cycling, but mostly in being contrary, but I don't remember him defending Lance's position, just whether or not people 'knew' as much as they thought they did. There are a lot of other posters with equally preposterous positions on their favourites. Me, I despise dopers, but I just can't help liking Vino, how to explain that?0 -
Very well reasoned, blacks or jews next?Nick Fitt wrote:
Dennis you are so silly, really, go back to the beginning and start again. No-one was fooled except you, the Yanks, right the way to the top, lock stock and barrel. We, the cycling fans, all knew what was going on but you guys just love something as 'awesome as Lance'. Now, everyone knows what was going on. You, the silly little noise from afar (collectively known as the USA) was fooled, not us. Go 'Big League Topless Bass Fishing' or fire some guns, or watch some Presidential Elections or just shoot some pool.dennisn wrote:You got fooled, or at least you think so, and nothing can really soothe that feeling. Right? :?0 -
There is a good chance it's more accurate than anything we can pull out of our backsides. And it may be a guess from him but it's an informed guess. He must have known of at least some clean guys to not automatically say 100%. And therefore my point to Dennis still stands, yes Armstrong suffered to cross the line first 7 times in a row but he probably didn't suffer as much as those who did it clean.dougzz wrote:
Seriously how would he (LL) have known who wasn't. These people have lied for years, I'm sure he mainly told the truth in the end, but I'm far from convinced these people are any more honest they they think they need to be. In terms of actual numbers he knows what he saw, what he heard, but any kind of number is as likely to be accurate from you and me as it is from Levi.Slim Boy Fat wrote:Well in Leipheimer's affidavit he stated a figure of 'at least 50%' who were doping during the tour so that leaves quite a few who weren't. Then again you would know that Dennis because you have read the whole USADA reasoned decision Dennis haven't you, so that you can reach an informed opinion about all of this.
Dennis comes on here for a row, he's mildly interested in cycling, but mostly in being contrary, but I don't remember him defending Lance's position, just whether or not people 'knew' as much as they thought they did. There are a lot of other posters with equally preposterous positions on their favourites. Me, I despise dopers, but I just can't help liking Vino, how to explain that?0 -
nathancom wrote:Bog off Dennis, go and worship Lance somewhere else.
Once more time, again. I do this because I believe you are all a bunch of self righteous
morons or worse(actually worse). It's all OK for you to say whatever about whomever yet not OK for me to say the same about you. How does that work? You're all above being called fools. Don't like it, do you? I don't know many people who do. So you have a choice. Run to your mother and tell her that someone called you a name or knock off the name calling, etc. or get me banned. With the latter your wishes will come true. You'll all be sheep in this little hate group you've got going, never to be bothered by the big bad wolf again, and free to tell each other all about your cycling woes. Won't that be exciting?0
