Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    edited August 2016
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    edited August 2016
    A Brazilian cyclist who competed in the Rio Olympics has failed a doping test.

    Kleber Da Silva Ramos, 30, took part in the men's Olympic road race on 6 August but failed to finish.

    Cycling's world governing body, the UCI, says he failed a Pre-Olympics test on 31 July and is suspended until a ruling is made on his case.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37069024
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Apparently the cycling ban remains but Armstrong can now compete in other sports including Triathlons and Marathons.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lance-a ... ly-lifted/
  • jerry3571
    jerry3571 Posts: 1,532
    Webboo wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    emadden wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    Paul 8v wrote:
    And also, I actually post in other threads apart from this one.
    Not me. I never do that.

    We've tried hard to keep the existence of other threads regarding doping hidden from you, but apparently our efforts have failed.

    Seriously: watch a race, comment on the tactics in the spoiler threads, post something about cycling.

    Ya got me all wrong. I am in attendance, as a USA Cycling official, at a race at least once a week. So "watch a race" has a whole lot more meaning to me than most people. I'm pretty confidant that I see more races and tactics than the majority on these threads. Add to that the fact that I'm retired with extra time on my hands and "bingo" I'm on doping threads out of boredom.

    Yeah but aren't races in "merica just crits?
    No not really. Our local club races every Tuesday from mid April to mid September. We use 2 "road" courses. A 6 miler and a 7 miler..
    Wow a 12 minute race and a 15 minute race that will stop the short attention span Yank audience getting bored then :D

    Just reading the last page and the American Chap said about Crits in the US but UK cycling is based on track cycling. We make the US races look like the Tour de France ;)
    Also, UK races are usually based on car racing circuits (Thruxton and Castle Coombe- down my way) or Military Airfields. These airfields are usually like the car racing circuits; 3 mile loops. Premier Calendar can be on closed roads and a few others like Pittards and Glen Longland 2 day. I gave up TTs as I prefer to get road rash than hit by a lorry.
    Thought I'd stick my nose in. Apologies.
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  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    dish_dash wrote:
    Apparently the cycling ban remains but Armstrong can now compete in other sports including Triathlons and Marathons.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lance-a ... ly-lifted/

    "Hope rides (and swims and runs) again"
  • jerry3571
    jerry3571 Posts: 1,532
    More photos like this then. :D_B099415_2_3-1.jpg
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  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    WADA responds to Armstrong’s recent plea and says it's done and dusted now.

    During Tuesday’s WADA congress in South Africa organization president John Fahey responded to some of Armstrong’s recent comments. He stressed that the only organization that can do anything about Armstrong’s ban is USADA “Look, as far as I’m concerned, it’s done and dusted. Armstrong did what he did, we all know what that is".

    My comment is that 20 years ago, he was allegedy "close to death" but look at him since that date still contradicting the statement.
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  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    Good to get the thread up and running again.... haha! :mrgreen::mrgreen:


    US lawsuit seeking $100 million from Lance Armstrong heads to trial

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02 ... ads-trial/
    'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,340
    LA's net worth according to some estimates is $125million. I suppose he'll still have a little bit of loose change left over after the trial. Perhaps he should syphon a load off and put it into some untouchable off shore account 'pdq' as they say across the pond.
    I'm thinking the defence lawyers will go down the path of Landis wanting to profit from this and nothing else and he was also complicit in the doping. Who knows? Perhaps others will get dragged into this. LA couldn't have done it on his own after all and why isn't the DS in the dock?
    I'm not saying that LA is being used as a scapegoat here or is innocent in any shape or form but in any other sphere especially commercial, it's the guy at the top who gets the book chucked at them.
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  • flasher
    flasher Posts: 1,734
    Pinno wrote:
    LA's net worth according to some estimates is $125million. I suppose he'll still have a little bit of loose change left over after the trial. Perhaps he should syphon a load off and put it into some untouchable off shore account 'pdq' as they say across the pond.

    I'm betting he's already moved most of it off shore. This lawsuit's been in the offing since he first coughed.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,340
    Flasher wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    LA's net worth according to some estimates is $125million. I suppose he'll still have a little bit of loose change left over after the trial. Perhaps he should syphon a load off and put it into some untouchable off shore account 'pdq' as they say across the pond.

    I'm betting he's already moved most of it off shore. This lawsuit's been in the offing since he first coughed.

    Does the US have greater jurisdiction over off shore accounts than say Blighty?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Pinno wrote:
    Flasher wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    LA's net worth according to some estimates is $125million. I suppose he'll still have a little bit of loose change left over after the trial. Perhaps he should syphon a load off and put it into some untouchable off shore account 'pdq' as they say across the pond.

    I'm betting he's already moved most of it off shore. This lawsuit's been in the offing since he first coughed.

    Does the US have greater jurisdiction over off shore accounts than say Blighty?

    Not so much greater jurisdiction, rather they take it more seriously.
  • flasher
    flasher Posts: 1,734
    Pinno wrote:

    Does the US have greater jurisdiction over off shore accounts than say Blighty?

    No idea, but lots of heavy bike boxes have been recently unloaded in the Cayman Islands........
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    HAHA what i like most about this is Landis could be in line to get millions of Dollars.

    Only in the land of the free. I want to see what the Donald makes of that scenario :)
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,340
    Why aren't the rest of the then USPS team queueing up to get their cut of the hypocrisy cake?
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,927
    Pinno wrote:
    Why aren't the rest of the then USPS team queueing up to get their cut of the hypocrisy cake?

    They didn't initiate the case. The intention of qui tam is to encourage whistleblowers to prevent misuse of public funds.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    Pinno wrote:
    Why aren't the rest of the then USPS team queueing up to get their cut of the hypocrisy cake?

    They didn't have vengeance in their hearts.
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  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Once the IRS get involved as well then it turns well messy - they will destroy your life year after year after year after year ad infinitum. HRMC are pussy cats compared to them.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Pinno wrote:
    Flasher wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    LA's net worth according to some estimates is $125million. I suppose he'll still have a little bit of loose change left over after the trial. Perhaps he should syphon a load off and put it into some untouchable off shore account 'pdq' as they say across the pond.

    I'm betting he's already moved most of it off shore. This lawsuit's been in the offing since he first coughed.

    Does the US have greater jurisdiction over off shore accounts than say Blighty?

    Not so much greater jurisdiction, rather they take it more seriously.

    No, its neither, what they do take seriously is the placement of money in US accounts, money that has been generated in the US and sent outside the country to other entities. Period. The entire flow of funds are tracked, declared and taxed. Some of which will be repealed under Trumps executive orders.
  • Pinno wrote:
    LA's net worth according to some estimates is $125million. I suppose he'll still have a little bit of loose change left over after the trial. Perhaps he should syphon a load off and put it into some untouchable off shore account 'pdq' as they say across the pond.
    I'm thinking the defence lawyers will go down the path of Landis wanting to profit from this and nothing else and he was also complicit in the doping. Who knows? Perhaps others will get dragged into this. LA couldn't have done it on his own after all and why isn't the DS in the dock?
    I'm not saying that LA is being used as a scapegoat here or is innocent in any shape or form but in any other sphere especially commercial, it's the guy at the top who gets the book chucked at them.

    He doesn't have $125m in cash though. He now most likely has a NPV of around $10m. Its unlikely that the DOJ will be awarded $100m, a jury trial of everyday citizens is not going to award to the government of that amount, not from a single individual no mater how much he cheated.
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    jerry3571 wrote:
    More photos like this then. :D_B099415_2_3-1.jpg

    The missing clue to what was in the Jiffy bag: either a budgie or a pelota.

    This photo also serves as an excellent visual representation of wcf.
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  • dombo6
    dombo6 Posts: 582
    Pinno wrote:
    Flasher wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    LA's net worth according to some estimates is $125million. I suppose he'll still have a little bit of loose change left over after the trial. Perhaps he should syphon a load off and put it into some untouchable off shore account 'pdq' as they say across the pond.

    I'm betting he's already moved most of it off shore. This lawsuit's been in the offing since he first coughed.

    Does the US have greater jurisdiction over off shore accounts than say Blighty?

    If the misdemeanour involves US Dollars then yes, they do. They can also send bigger gunboats.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,340
    Dombo6 wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    Flasher wrote:
    Pinno wrote:
    LA's net worth according to some estimates is $125million. I suppose he'll still have a little bit of loose change left over after the trial. Perhaps he should syphon a load off and put it into some untouchable off shore account 'pdq' as they say across the pond.

    I'm betting he's already moved most of it off shore. This lawsuit's been in the offing since he first coughed.

    Does the US have greater jurisdiction over off shore accounts than say Blighty?

    If the misdemeanour involves US Dollars then yes, they do. They can also send bigger gunboats.

    ...with Donny T in hot pursuit...
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  • Thanks for some of the recent posts. Had zero idea he has already WON a half Ironman that included triathlon pros.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,340
    Thanks for some of the recent posts. Had zero idea he has already WON a half Ironman that included triathlon pros.

    That's the sad thing about LA. Had he come back into Pro Cycling without pushing the drug envelope (beyond his peers), he would have probably achieved some success and that in it's own right would have been remarkable.
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  • jerry3571
    jerry3571 Posts: 1,532
    How did George Hincapie get away things as he was LA's sidekick for years? I watched the stage where he beat a load of climbers in the Alps one year. I remembered thinking that this result was impossible. Stage 15 2005??
    discovery-channel-team-rider-hincapie-of-us-crosses-finish-line-to-H1XKJX.jpg
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