Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

shinyhelmut

frenchfighter wrote:

Interesting take. Unfortunately this has nothing to do with that - not least as Lanceo doesn't have a clue about the sports history. As has been mentioned many times, Lanceo tried the whole race to undermine and try and exert his 'power' (oooooooh) on Contador. He failed. Must try harder next time...oh.

Friends exist in sports. There is nothing wrong with it and perfectly normal.

Good job you are not racing - do something like that and next time you flat they will turn up the gas. You earn respect not bully your way into it. Contador has been helped a few times with good effect - they help him because he earned it in the past. Ask any proper pro what they think of cultivating favors.

He didn't have enough friends when the peloton split into Brignoles (I think).

Lance did.

frenchfighter

If that is the stage where HTC split the bunch and Cav won with a small bunch of other riders with him and Lance happened to be in the split. That has nothing to do with friends. HTC (class team) rode tactically.

nathancom

Another example of the hatred of the peloton for Lance Armstrong....
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxGNttpaZA

lloyd_bower

ddraver wrote:

You'd havea point Frenchie, apart from the reality that when Armstrong was riding he had 175/180 odd friends in the peloton who were all 100% behind him stopping the truth coming out..

Unfortunately, both of them are cheaters and neither of them have high grade characters

Yep, last paragraph spot on. Both dopers, one's now admitted to some but not all of his sins, the other still in denial.

Two dopers fighting out for 2007 tour, one later pulled by his team, finally admitting to doping last week..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRqxW9Jyt8

dennisn

lloyd bower wrote:

ddraver wrote:

You'd havea point Frenchie, apart from the reality that when Armstrong was riding he had 175/180 odd friends in the peloton who were all 100% behind him stopping the truth coming out..

Unfortunately, both of them are cheaters and neither of them have high grade characters

Yep, last paragraph spot on. Both dopers, one's now admitted to some but not all of his sins, the other still in denial.

Seems that some people are really into this denial thing. How does a bike racer being in denial affect their lives?
I can see people who are close to someone worrying about someone "in denial" about whatever but why and by what right do "forumites" demand that that a complete stranger come clean with himself? Or even assume that he has anything to come clean about?

It just goes back to the same old thing I've always said. People have put these these riders up on pedestals as almost Gods and idols. How they find out differently and seem to be demanding that all the cheaters admit they are human, when in fact they were always human and NOT the Gods you made them out to be.

If you think that their admitting to themselves that they cheated / doped is going to help YOU then you're the one in denial.

nathancom

Or maybe they just want a clean sport, but then how could you repeat yourself ad nauseam if that was the case...

It seems some people would prefer to bury their heads in the sand. How come you spent years denying that LA was a doper and have now decided that the best defence is that people need to just 'move on'. It is all part of the same strategy of defending dopers from the attacks of fans for God knows what reason (if you are anything more than an attention seeking trolol).

dennisn

nathancom wrote:

How come you spent years denying that LA was a doper ........

I doubt you'll find that I ever denied LA was a doper. I constantly asked people on this forum to prove it. None of YOU ever did. You all simply recycled the work of other people into claims of your own. In the end none of you(myself included) was witness to any of these evil doings. Yet still you claimed to know all about it. And that's why I kept asking you to prove it. :roll:

bockers

OMG that is just the sort of argument put forward by the conspracy theorists. It was obvious he was doping, the proof is there to read in the USADA document, all nicely collated. Not much of it is new but when it was all put together finally people started to realise that there is way too much smoke for there not to be a fire.

fidgetyphil

meanwhile LA appears to be trying to land Tailwind with his bill to SCA.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/361016 ... onus-money


Herman makes a legal argument when explaining why Armstrong should not repay the Tour de France bonuses even though he was stripped of all seven of his Tour titles. He said it's a contractual matter between Armstrong and his cycling team's owner, Tailwind Sports.

Tailwind had the performance bonuses insured by SCA Promotions, which withheld payment in 2004 because of suspicions that Armstrong cheated to win them. In response, Armstrong and Tailwind sued SCA for payment, leading to litigation in which Armstrong denied under oath that he took performance-enhancing drugs.

SCA relented and paid Armstrong a settlement, but now it wants a refund, especially after watching Armstrong tell Winfrey that he indeed engaged in doping every time he won the Tour. SCA attorney Jeff Tillotson said the company is owed about $12.5 million including legal costs for Tour bonuses in 2002, 2003 and 2004.


"The bottom line is that Tailwind bought the (insurance) policy (with SCA)," Herman said. "Tailwind paid the premium. Tailwind made the claim, and the money was paid to Tailwind, not Lance Armstrong. I'm sure people will characterize that as a loophole, but it's a pretty significant factor."


Plucky move I'd have thought. I can't see that making him too many friends.
I expect to see some properties coming on the market shortly, now he has no income and vast expenses.

thomthom

So fecking tired of this Herman guy.

Did anyone see this earlier? What an idiot. Just as criminal as Lance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v_CENzx51k

k-dog

Tailwind which he is part owner of?

Richmond Racer

ThomThom wrote:

So ******* tired of this Herman guy.

Did anyone see this earlier? What an idiot. Just as criminal as Lance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v_CENzx51k

Importantly...is that a rug he's wearing?

dennisn

bockers wrote:

OMG that is just the sort of argument put forward by the conspracy theorists. It was obvious he was doping, the proof is there to read in the USADA document, all nicely collated. Not much of it is new but when it was all put together finally people started to realise that there is way too much smoke for there not to be a fire.

Absolutely. Taking it a bit further. Wasn't he "on high" with most people before it all started to unravel? Wasn't he treated as an idol or God(of cycling) and put on a pedestal by many, many people? Aren't the people who bowed down to him(so to speak) a little bit p*ssed(i.e. Dorothy, Scarecrow, etc.) off when Toto pulled the curtain back and exposed a simple man as opposed to the Idol they thought they were following? The exchange went something like this.
Dorothy - "Why, you're not a wizard at all. You're just a man and a very bad one."
Wizard - "Oh no.no no. I'm not a bad man, I'm a good man. Just a very bad Wizard". Dorothy and her pals made one mistake and it was a big one. They believed unquestioningly in the Wizard and that set them up for the eventual fall and all for of them were pretty p*ssed off about it.
Substitute "fans" for "Dorothy" and "LA" for "Wizard" and you've got a story that has happened to people through the ages. Blind obedience or belief in or for someone you presume to be better than yourself only to discover it to not be true.

fidgetyphil

ThomThom wrote:

So ******* tired of this Herman guy.

Did anyone see this earlier? What an idiot. Just as criminal as Lance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v_CENzx51k

Always strikes me that LA's much vaunted law team are pretty sh*te, frankly.


But more importantly I suspect not a rug but he shares a coiffeur with the Trump.

Richmond Racer

fidgetyphil wrote:

ThomThom wrote:

So ******* tired of this Herman guy.

Did anyone see this earlier? What an idiot. Just as criminal as Lance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v_CENzx51k

Always strikes me that LA's much vaunted law team are pretty sh*te, frankly.


But more importantly I suspect not a rug but he shares a coiffeur with the Trump.

Henceforth it shall be known as a Trerman

fidgetyphil

A Hermump

ratsbeyfus

fidgetyphil wrote:

Always strikes me that LA's much vaunted law team are pretty sh*te, frankly.

I think they're doing a grand job of milking every last cent out of their litigous cash cow.

fidgetyphil

I think they're doing a grand job of milking every last cent out of their litigous cash cow.


Your absolutely right of course. For a minute there I forgot what a lawyer's job is.

frenchfighter

This mash up of the interview made me chuckle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48bkluHu ... ata_player

rob churchill

Richmond Racer wrote:

ThomThom wrote:

So ******* tired of this Herman guy.

Did anyone see this earlier? What an idiot. Just as criminal as Lance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v_CENzx51k

Importantly...is that a rug he's wearing?

Borrowed it from Lance:

ocdupalais

frenchfighter wrote:

This mash up of the interview made me chuckle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48bkluHu ... ata_player

I don't know... You try and be neat and tidy and pop things in their appropriate threads... Then no one notices.
(see last post on 'Frothing About Armstrong' thread)...

Whoever did that is a high level pro editor to get the rhythm so just right - really difficult.

hommelbier

OCDuPalais wrote:

I don't know... You try and be neat and tidy and pop things in their appropriate threads... Then no one notices.
(see last post on 'Frothing About Armstrong' thread)...

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I fully agree :roll:

see page 239 (Jan 31) in this thread

ocdupalais

hommelbier wrote:

OCDuPalais wrote:

I don't know... You try and be neat and tidy and pop things in their appropriate threads... Then no one notices.
(see last post on 'Frothing About Armstrong' thread)...

I fully agree :roll:

see page 239 (Jan 31) in this thread

Bwa hah ha...

Complain about being ignored around here and you get trumped by someone even more ignored.
I'd just like to cite, in my defence, that I was out of the country on said date (honest); but I also have to admit to being a fukcwit :oops:
I assume 2 more missed tests like this will constitute a year ban?

And talking of "virtual positives", it shows that you, me and FF share the same sense of humour.

k-dog

hommelbier wrote:

OCDuPalais wrote:

I don't know... You try and be neat and tidy and pop things in their appropriate threads... Then no one notices.
(see last post on 'Frothing About Armstrong' thread)...

I fully agree :roll:

see page 239 (Jan 31) in this thread

Or even January 28th.

viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12874120&start=4740#p18113445

Strike 2?

ocdupalais

k-dog wrote:

hommelbier wrote:

OCDuPalais wrote:

I don't know... You try and be neat and tidy and pop things in their appropriate threads... Then no one notices.
(see last post on 'Frothing About Armstrong' thread)...

I fully agree :roll:

see page 239 (Jan 31) in this thread

Or even January 28th.

viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12874120&start=4740#p18113445

Strike 2?

Ah... Now, see, my lawyer says he can get me off this one on account of one link being YouTube and the other's not.

Have you seen my lawyer?

Cumulonimbus

Armstrong being investigated for obstruction, witness tampering and intimidation

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21347525

http://abcnews.go.com/US/lance-armstron ... d=18415386

frenchfighter

There is so much shite in this thread that I barely read any of it. I just post something if I think people reading it may enjoy it or find it interesting.

Garry H

+1 most of it is unbearable.

alan_a

Doing the rounds in Australia at the moment. Apparently he is training the Essenden Bombers AFL team.

http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/heav ... 6571479959

frenchfighter

Its a photoshop.

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