Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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Was reading the whole Simeoni saga last night.
To quote Armstrong "You were wrong to testify against Ferrari and wrong to sue me. I have lots of time and lots of money. I will destroy you."
Nice.
Wonder how Simeoni feels now. Vindicated?Mens agitat molem0 -
RichN95 wrote:^When are people going to realise that Armstrong and Tailwind are separate entities.
You keep thinking that.
Mwahahaha
:roll:“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Oh, I completely agree with you. They bought advertising and they got advertising - with bells on. But it's America so the law and sense don't often mix.dougzz wrote:
Ignoring the details of the who will sue who, this one really is a crock. This sort of sponsorship is all about brand awareness, can USPS really think they didn't get their monies worth. His actions have ensured that years after they stopped paying there is still pics of him in the USPS kit on the news all the time. Where's the fraud. I don't like him, but the idea that these sponsors didn't get their pound of flesh is just mad.RichN95 wrote:^When are people going to realise that Armstrong and Tailwind are separate entities. Any suit by US Postal for alleged fraud will be against the company not Armstrong personally. They were sponsoring the team for two years before he turned up FFS.Twitter: @RichN950 -
What - you mean like being a self serving parasite looking for a "reaction"mattybeck wrote:
Cav was easy money for him.Can I upgrade???0 -
mattybeck wrote:
Here's tabloid journalism 101 for you: Ask celebrity a question on contraversial subject. If he gives a boring non-commital answer then you have no story and you have wasted your time, so keep asking the same question over and over again to wind him up. When he reacts you have your story.Twitter: @RichN950 -
mattybeck wrote:Cavdendish can come accross as a right effin wean sometimes. Man up, FFS. Close to being another Liam Gallagheresque 'hard man'. Journo is doing is job.
Cav was filmed in Lance's room with George Hincapie during the 2009 TdF - it's on YouTube if you have a look. There's clearly a personal relationship there.
Someone should send Cav a Twitter message asking if he hope Lance is made someone's b*tch in prison, mirroring the comment he made about Riccardo Ricco.0 -
RichN95 wrote:mattybeck wrote:
Here's tabloid journalism 101 for you: Ask celebrity a question on contraversial subject. If he gives a boring non-commital answer then you have no story and you have wasted your time, so keep asking the same question over and over again to wind him up. When he reacts you have your story.
Aye, the last few years really do show the value in having pliant cycling journos afraid to upset riders. Let's not go back to that.0 -
The Mad Rapper wrote:mattybeck wrote:Cavdendish can come accross as a right effin wean sometimes. Man up, FFS. Close to being another Liam Gallagheresque 'hard man'. Journo is doing is job.
Cav was filmed in Lance's room with George Hincapie during the 2009 TdF - it's on YouTube if you have a look. There's clearly a personal relationship there.
Someone should send Cav a Twitter message asking if he hope Lance is made someone's b*tch in prison, mirroring the comment he made about Riccardo Ricco.
Can i do it please?0 -
LeicesterLad wrote:The Mad Rapper wrote:mattybeck wrote:Cavdendish can come accross as a right effin wean sometimes. Man up, FFS. Close to being another Liam Gallagheresque 'hard man'. Journo is doing is job.
Cav was filmed in Lance's room with George Hincapie during the 2009 TdF - it's on YouTube if you have a look. There's clearly a personal relationship there.
Someone should send Cav a Twitter message asking if he hope Lance is made someone's b*tch in prison, mirroring the comment he made about Riccardo Ricco.
Can i do it please?
I don't use Twitter, so go ahead. Give him a link to the forums so we can all have a good row with him
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LeicesterLad wrote:The Mad Rapper wrote:mattybeck wrote:Cavdendish can come accross as a right effin wean sometimes. Man up, FFS. Close to being another Liam Gallagheresque 'hard man'. Journo is doing is job.
Cav was filmed in Lance's room with George Hincapie during the 2009 TdF - it's on YouTube if you have a look. There's clearly a personal relationship there.
Someone should send Cav a Twitter message asking if he hope Lance is made someone's b*tch in prison, mirroring the comment he made about Riccardo Ricco.
Can i do it please?
Aw, course you can. Is the next question 'can I go out and play with my friends?' well, you can, but make sure you wrap up warm and that you're back in time for tea.0 -
mattybeck wrote:RichN95 wrote:mattybeck wrote:
Here's tabloid journalism 101 for you: Ask celebrity a question on contraversial subject. If he gives a boring non-commital answer then you have no story and you have wasted your time, so keep asking the same question over and over again to wind him up. When he reacts you have your story.
Aye, the last few years really do show the value in having pliant cycling journos afraid to upset riders. Let's not go back to that.
You can understand Cavendish's response. He's at his new team launch and someone wants a reaction from him about something he has nothing to do with.
It's lazy journalism actually.Mens agitat molem0 -
bazbadger wrote:
You can understand Cavendish's response. He's at his new team launch and someone wants a reaction from him about something he has nothing to do with.
It's lazy journalism actually.
Eh? Asking 'one of the most / the most' successful TDF sprinters in history about a story happening right now about the highest profile, (ex) most successful TDF rider in history is perfectly normal, Cav should get used to it, its expected he'll be asked a lot. Same for Wiggo, same for any of them.0 -
There's a difference between not wanting to upset riders by asking difficult relevant questions, and deliberating baiting them to get a reaction.mattybeck wrote:RichN95 wrote:mattybeck wrote:
Here's tabloid journalism 101 for you: Ask celebrity a question on contraversial subject. If he gives a boring non-commital answer then you have no story and you have wasted your time, so keep asking the same question over and over again to wind him up. When he reacts you have your story.
Aye, the last few years really do show the value in having pliant cycling journos afraid to upset riders. Let's not go back to that.
Yes Cav, is Cav and it doesn't take too many of the same questions to get this kind of reaction, but then the parasite knew that and got his prize.
Story moves from "Cav tells journo to F-off" to "Cav obviously has something to hide, as per LA" etc etc
That's not journos doing "their job", its paparazzi parasite style journalism.Can I upgrade???0 -
mfin wrote:LeicesterLad wrote:The Mad Rapper wrote:mattybeck wrote:Cavdendish can come accross as a right effin wean sometimes. Man up, FFS. Close to being another Liam Gallagheresque 'hard man'. Journo is doing is job.
Cav was filmed in Lance's room with George Hincapie during the 2009 TdF - it's on YouTube if you have a look. There's clearly a personal relationship there.
Someone should send Cav a Twitter message asking if he hope Lance is made someone's b*tch in prison, mirroring the comment he made about Riccardo Ricco.
Can i do it please?
Aw, course you can. Is the next question 'can I go out and play with my friends?' well, you can, but make sure you wrap up warm and that you're back in time for tea.
Are you Jimmy Saville?0 -
Cavendish had just started being sponsored by Nike. It was done for their benefit.The Mad Rapper wrote:
Cav was filmed in Lance's room with George Hincapie during the 2009 TdF - it's on YouTube if you have a look. There's clearly a personal relationship there.Twitter: @RichN950 -
mfin wrote:bazbadger wrote:
You can understand Cavendish's response. He's at his new team launch and someone wants a reaction from him about something he has nothing to do with.
It's lazy journalism actually.
Eh? Asking 'one of the most / the most' successful TDF sprinters in history about a story happening right now about the highest profile, (ex) most successful TDF rider in history is perfectly normal, Cav should get used to it, its expected he'll be asked a lot. Same for Wiggo, same for any of them.
Cavendish was asked and he answered. Then he was repeatedly asked and that's what snapped him.
What did they want him to say?Mens agitat molem0 -
Sorry, was the journalist interrupting the PR event to ask a real question?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Gazzetta67 wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:Gazzetta67 wrote:Brian Cookson getting interviewed on Sky News in 20mins @ 5.30 if anyone's interested !!!
Cant see it where I am now - give us a summary afterwards?
Do you want the whole truth or nothing about the truth or will i ask my lawyers 8)
Ah, that's made me think. Maybe he'll do the whole Colonel Jessup thing from A Few Good Men. Maybe one of the wordsmiths on here (OC, Rich etc.) could do a suitable re-write?0 -
meggiedude wrote:
There's a difference between not wanting to upset riders by asking difficult relevant questions, and deliberating baiting them to get a reaction.mattybeck wrote:RichN95 wrote:mattybeck wrote:
Here's tabloid journalism 101 for you: Ask celebrity a question on contraversial subject. If he gives a boring non-commital answer then you have no story and you have wasted your time, so keep asking the same question over and over again to wind him up. When he reacts you have your story.
Aye, the last few years really do show the value in having pliant cycling journos afraid to upset riders. Let's not go back to that.
Yes Cav, is Cav and it doesn't take too many of the same questions to get this kind of reaction, but then the parasite knew that and got his prize.
Story moves from "Cav tells journo to F-off" to "Cav obviously has something to hide, as per LA" etc etc
That's not journos doing "their job", its paparazzi parasite style journalism.
In this week of all weeks (when presumably everyone on here has had to defend the sport to friends and colleages), it's fine for him to mouth a Wenger style platitude of 'i haven't seen it'
No comment about it on his twitter, no comment on his website. From one of the world's best riders?
Cadel Evans perhaps recognises his responsibilty this week by his comment yesterday
"Don't let the actions of a few determine the way you feel about an entire group"0 -
Responsibility??mattybeck wrote:meggiedude wrote:
There's a difference between not wanting to upset riders by asking difficult relevant questions, and deliberating baiting them to get a reaction.mattybeck wrote:RichN95 wrote:mattybeck wrote:
Here's tabloid journalism 101 for you: Ask celebrity a question on contraversial subject. If he gives a boring non-commital answer then you have no story and you have wasted your time, so keep asking the same question over and over again to wind him up. When he reacts you have your story.
Aye, the last few years really do show the value in having pliant cycling journos afraid to upset riders. Let's not go back to that.
Yes Cav, is Cav and it doesn't take too many of the same questions to get this kind of reaction, but then the parasite knew that and got his prize.
Story moves from "Cav tells journo to F-off" to "Cav obviously has something to hide, as per LA" etc etc
That's not journos doing "their job", its paparazzi parasite style journalism.
In this week of all weeks (when presumably everyone on here has had to defend the sport to friends and colleages), it's fine for him to mouth a Wenger style platitude of 'i haven't seen it'
No comment about it on his twitter, no comment on his website. From one of the world's best riders?
Cadel Evans perhaps recognises his responsibilty this week by his comment yesterday
"Don't let the actions of a few determine the way you feel about an entire group"
We'll have to agree to disagree on this mate, because there is no way you can persuade me he has an obligation to be a diplomat here. He's a pigging cyclist.
He's probably been asked about LA and drugs a thousand times, both before and after the latest story broke.
Then he was " repeatedly asked his opinion about Lance Armstrong's 'doping confession'" and later "As he sat down for another round of interviews, he immediately snapped when a reporter appeared to begin asking him an Armstrong related question". Don't Blame him.
This journo wanted someone to react, and yes Cav is easy meat.
As said by others above its lazy journalist (at best)Can I upgrade???0 -
ddraver wrote:Don't know how you ve defended the sport... I have nt been able to
Likewise, I will try and defend the sport when the people in the sport can be arsed to defend it themselves, properly.0 -
Kimmage has emerged once again....quelle surprise.
accusing wiggo of following LA's blueprint for success. poor0 -
I know we are all VERY suspicious about Oprah doing the interview, but at least it appears as though she has done SOME prep: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/video/2013/jan/16/lance-armstrong-oprah-winfrey-video
I think she must be conscious that if she doesn't do a decent enough job, then her "credibility" is in tatters hence the get out of "I didn't ask all my questions".http://www.georgesfoundation.org
http://100hillsforgeorge.blogspot.com/
http://www.12on12in12.blogspot.co.uk/0 -
"The faster Bradley pedalled, the less we heard from the angry young man we loved"0
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The Mad Rapper wrote:EPC06 wrote:Kimmage has emerged once again....quelle surprise.
accusing wiggo of following LA's blueprint for success. poor
And if he's right?
Then he should get some evidence, as opposed to saying the same thing over and over? He's complaining on twitter about being unemployed I see, well, there must be some media company somewhere who would love to take down someone who is a poster boy for Murdoch's empire?You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
For me that will make him just as much of a cnut as any doper. However, when you look at the facts. It would appear, to me anyway, that there are some marked differences between the tour last year and the dark days. Off course some of the things that Sky and Wiggins are doing look the same as what USPS did. But then not everything that USPS did was illegal so it's not unusual for the best team of one generation to look similar to the best team of the next generation. It's the things that look different that are telling to me.The Mad Rapper wrote:EPC06 wrote:Kimmage has emerged once again....quelle surprise.
accusing wiggo of following LA's blueprint for success. poor
And if he's right?0 -
Our favourite saffer poses an interesting question:
Michelle Cound @michellecound
Have my doubts about this "confession", but lets face it, @lancearmstrong isn't the problem, the fact that he never tested positive is.0
