Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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iainf72 wrote:He'll testify against officials and money men, but not other athletes.
And he admitted to doping before cancer.
But not afterwards?
You've got to love that for chutzpah"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Am sure he will have admitted before and after - the before period just hasn't been officially proven until now if that is the case.disgruntledgoat wrote:iainf72 wrote:He'll testify against officials and money men, but not other athletes.
And he admitted to doping before cancer.
But not afterwards?
You've got to love that for chutzpah0 -
iainf72 wrote:He'll testify against officials and money men, but not other athletes.
And he admitted to doping before cancer.
This means every single book about him is true. LA Confidentiel stated he doped back in 7-11 days. I am really excited that he may testify against the UCI. That could be enough to bring weight for reform at that level. Whether he testifies against other cyclists is almost moot now, unless they are still racing.
...worth a read if you've not seen it yet...
http://road.cc/content/news/73725-uci-n ... -officials
" The UCI will not be making any further comments on matters concerning Lance Armstrong until it has had the opportunity to view his much publicised interview with Oprah Winfrey.
The UCI notes the media speculation surrounding the interview and reports that he has finally come clean and admitted doping during his cycling career.
If these reports are true, we would strongly urge Lance Armstrong to testify to the Independent Commission established to investigate the allegations made against the UCI in the recent USADA reasoned decision on Lance Armstrong and the United States Postal Service (USPS) team."0 -
Various places saying that Oprah says he didn't come clean in the manner she expected. If she comments negatively he's really fooked.
Edit: OK - I think I misunderstood the context of this - please (continue) to ignore me.0 -
iainf72 wrote:He'll testify against officials and money men, but not other athletes.
And he admitted to doping before cancer.
c'mon
you can't keep posting these juicy morsels without giving some sources“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Nick Fitt wrote:iainf72 wrote:He'll testify against officials and money men, but not other athletes.
And he admitted to doping before cancer.
This means every single book about him is true. LA Confidentiel stated he doped back in 7-11 days. I am really excited that he may testify against the UCI. That could be enough to bring weight for reform at that level. Whether he testifies against other cyclists is almost moot now, unless they are still racing.
...worth a read if you've not seen it yet...
http://road.cc/content/news/73725-uci-n ... -officials
" The UCI will not be making any further comments on matters concerning Lance Armstrong until it has had the opportunity to view his much publicised interview with Oprah Winfrey.
The UCI notes the media speculation surrounding the interview and reports that he has finally come clean and admitted doping during his cycling career.
If these reports are true, we would strongly urge Lance Armstrong to testify to the Independent Commission established to investigate the allegations made against the UCI in the recent USADA reasoned decision on Lance Armstrong and the United States Postal Service (USPS) team."
I can think of at least 2 that aren't..."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Not really surprised at the pre-cancer to be honest.
I was at the Plymouth round of the MTB World Cup in 1993, which was on the day that Lance won the World Champs.
I was standing next to the mechanic of a very famous mountain biker who was talking to said very famous mountain biker, who now has his own bike brand and used to do both XC and Downhill racing "back in the day" when the results of the Worlds were announced. I quote "What's Lance been on this time then?", resulting in a wry smile and a snigger from the very famous mountain biker.0 -
Yep, on a re-read I think I jumped in, clearly hoping for him to suffer further, I read what I wanted to read rather than what was intended.iainf72 wrote:
I take that to be in a "boo hoo, sob sob" type of way.dougzz wrote:Various places saying that Oprah says he didn't come clean in the manner she expected. If she comments negatively he's really fooked.0 -
appletrees wrote:Not really surprised at the pre-cancer to be honest.
I was at the Plymouth round of the MTB World Cup in 1993, which was on the day that Lance won the World Champs.
I was standing next to the mechanic of a very famous mountain biker who was talking to said very famous mountain biker, who now has his own bike brand and used to do both XC and Downhill racing "back in the day" when the results of the Worlds were announced. I quote "What's Lance been on this time then?", resulting in a wry smile and a snigger from the very famous mountain biker.
JT?0 -
TailWindHome wrote:
c'moniainf72 wrote:He'll testify against officials and money men, but not other athletes.
And he admitted to doping before cancer.
you can't keep posting these juicy morsels without giving some sources
Tailwind, this stuff is every where
Iain is just crazy fast at posting things.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/sport ... cials.html0 -
appletrees wrote:Not really surprised at the pre-cancer to be honest.
I was at the Plymouth round of the MTB World Cup in 1993, which was on the day that Lance won the World Champs.
I was standing next to the mechanic of a very famous mountain biker who was talking to said very famous mountain biker, who now has his own bike brand and used to do both XC and Downhill racing "back in the day" when the results of the Worlds were announced. I quote "What's Lance been on this time then?", resulting in a wry smile and a snigger from the very famous mountain biker.
Love stuff like this.0 -
If he does testify against the UCI then the past 200 pages will have not been for nothing. Something good might just come out of it.0
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dougzz wrote:TailWindHome wrote:
c'moniainf72 wrote:He'll testify against officials and money men, but not other athletes.
And he admitted to doping before cancer.
you can't keep posting these juicy morsels without giving some sources
Tailwind, this stuff is every where Iain is just crazy fast at posting things.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/sport ... cials.html
where does it say that he admitted to PRE cancer doping?
though i concede my google fu is only white belt“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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ShinyHelmut, you may well be very right indeed...0
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ShinyHelmut wrote:appletrees wrote:Not really surprised at the pre-cancer to be honest.
I was at the Plymouth round of the MTB World Cup in 1993, which was on the day that Lance won the World Champs.
I was standing next to the mechanic of a very famous mountain biker who was talking to said very famous mountain biker, who now has his own bike brand and used to do both XC and Downhill racing "back in the day" when the results of the Worlds were announced. I quote "What's Lance been on this time then?", resulting in a wry smile and a snigger from the very famous mountain biker.
JT?
KB or GF..? Did they ever race WC's?We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Just in case you aren't following the Oprah thread...
Oprah Winfrey's exclusive, no-holds-barred interview with Lance Armstrong, Oprah and Lance Armstrong: The Worldwide Exclusive, has expanded to air as a two-night event on OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network. The special episode of Oprah's Next Chapter will air Thursday, January 17, from 9 to 10:30 p.m. ET/PT (as previously announced) and Friday, January 18, at 9 p.m. ET/PT. The interview will be simultaneously streamed LIVE worldwide both nights on Oprah.com0 -
ShinyHelmut wrote:
JT?
John Terry?0 -
Thom Thom - not sure if you were being sarky there or not
But I swear it happened...
Nope, JT as ShinyHelmut said...
The John part is correct, but I don't think john Terry makes bikes 0 -
appletrees wrote:Thom Thom - not sure if you were being sarky there or not
But I swear it happened...
Nope, JT as ShinyHelmut said...
The John part is correct, but I don't think john Terry makes bikes
Rides them though
*going to hell*0 -
Great venue - do they still have the Pipeline?0
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appletrees wrote:Thom Thom - not sure if you were being sarky there or not
But I swear it happened...
Nope, JT as ShinyHelmut said...
The John part is correct, but I don't think john Terry makes bikes
No, no. No sarcasm. Love these little anecdotes.
The JT-thing, though - not so serious. But as a football fan, JT = John Terry. Be that football wise, England captain, infidelity, cycling, infidelity again, bikes, bowling, shagging teammate's wives or just infidelity.0 -
appletrees wrote:Great venue - do they still have the Pipeline?
Don't rightly know to be honest. The first time I went was the first time it was in Plymouth and they put names up at the start of a few sections (Cottage Return for example), but I don't remember a pipeline bit - butthen everytime I ve been back it's a different route so they may have (or it may be too hard for a 24hr race)
I dunno basically... :oops:We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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appletrees wrote:Great venue - do they still have the Pipeline?
And the 'magnetic' tree at the bottom? 0 -
So how is the news going down in the US this morning...?
All of the US breakfast sports shows are leading with the 'Armstrong confesses' story.
I followed the ESPN Mike and Mike show for a bit - the two anchors clearly know next to nothing about cycling, and started off on a "so he cheated, at least he admitted it and what a lot of good work he's done" tack. My guess is that they started to get a fair bit of heat from twitter etc, or their researchers started doing some work, because they then started working up the "he's a bully, and we don't bully people, do we kids" line.
Nonetheless, I can see it already... Armstrong is going to get redemption here. There'll be an interview tour, public appearances, a book, more charity work, run / ride with Armstrong... he'll be a hero again.0 -
nic_77 wrote:So how is the news going down in the US this morning...?
All of the US breakfast sports shows are leading with the 'Armstrong confesses' story.
I followed the ESPN Mike and Mike show for a bit - the two anchors clearly know next to nothing about cycling, and started off on a "so he cheated, at least he admitted it and what a lot of good work he's done" tack. My guess is that they started to get a fair bit of heat from twitter etc, or their researchers started doing some work, because they then started working up the "he's a bully, and we don't bully people, do we kids" line.
Nonetheless, I can see it already... Armstrong is going to get redemption here. There'll be an interview tour, public appearances, a book, more charity work, run / ride with Armstrong... he'll be a hero again.
*chunders*
Feel free to come and live over here, nic - as you can see, we are generally suitably cycnical, tend to look for motives, and far less inclined to fall for this redemption bs0 -
nic_77 wrote:
Nonetheless, I can see it already... Armstrong is going to get redemption here. There'll be an interview tour, public appearances, a book, more charity work, run / ride with Armstrong... he'll be a hero again.
Zero to hero to zero and back to hero. It would seem that those who wanted his confession are about to get it. Only problem is he's most likely going to come roaring back to prominence and isn't that the last thing the people who are demanding confession want? :? :?0 -
Thanks for the offer... but I am a Brit living in NC!Richmond Racer wrote:nic_77 wrote:So how is the news going down in the US this morning...?
All of the US breakfast sports shows are leading with the 'Armstrong confesses' story.
I followed the ESPN Mike and Mike show for a bit - the two anchors clearly know next to nothing about cycling, and started off on a "so he cheated, at least he admitted it and what a lot of good work he's done" tack. My guess is that they started to get a fair bit of heat from twitter etc, or their researchers started doing some work, because they then started working up the "he's a bully, and we don't bully people, do we kids" line.
Nonetheless, I can see it already... Armstrong is going to get redemption here. There'll be an interview tour, public appearances, a book, more charity work, run / ride with Armstrong... he'll be a hero again.
*chunders*
Feel free to come and live over here, nic - as you can see, we are generally suitably cycnical, tend to look for motives, and far less inclined to fall for this redemption bs
I can always turn the TV off and head outside for a bike ride. Did I mention it was 25 degrees here at the weekend?
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