Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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tremayne wrote:This story is about to explode and interestingly will probably end up being as much a governance story, than just wonderboy. Hopefully it will also root out some hitherto shadowy figures, the moneymen.
Only LA could come up with this kind of show!
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Cancellara tweeted this morning (Fabianese style) : 'I do not wonna know how much money some secret source has get from the media regarding the pre recorded #Armstrong #Oprah show'
Neal Rogers of VeloNews shot right back within seconds: 'Ask Armstrong. He's the one paying them.'0 -
Armstrong may confess his own sins but refuse to incriminate anyone else and thus appear to retain some honour.0
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lol - Fat chance
He'll lay the blame far and wide - It'll be everyone elses fault but his own.Can I upgrade???0 -
OK, so we agree on the outcome, but for slightly different reasons.
I think it'll be carefully orchestrated to lay the blame elsewhere, and allow him to compete.Can I upgrade???0 -
Trev The Rev wrote:Armstrong may confess his own sins but refuse to incriminate anyone else and thus appear to retain some honour.
It's already confirmed he'll name namesFckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
It's like a big game of pass the buck. Literally.Mens agitat molem0
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ddraver wrote:^^Nah, this is all about him doing Triathlons again. Tygart won't reduce the ban unless he gives him names...
Anyone posted this yet? Tygart is one hard-assed dude (said approvingly)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... hare_tweet
'Mr. Armstrong had begun making overtures to USADA about striking some kind of deal—admit to past doping in exchange for a reduction in his lifetime ban, according to two people familiar with the effort.
Under the World Anti-Doping Code, athletes can get as much as a 75% reduction of a ban if they provide the kind of substantial help to antidoping authorities that enables them to build cases against others.
Mr. Armstrong's Austin lawyer, Mr. Herman, called Mr. Tygart and offered to dispatch Mr. Armstrong's legal team to Colorado to meet with him. Mr. Tygart said he wanted Mr. Armstrong to come. When Mr. Herman pushed back, Mr. Tygart called the meeting off.
At least one of Mr. Armstrong's lawyers, Mr. Luskin, was opposed to the meeting, according to one person familiar with the effort. In December, Mr. Armstrong told Mr. Herman he would meet with Mr. Tygart anyway, this person said. Mr. Luskin declined to comment.
The meeting, which was tense, took place at a conference room near the Denver airport. Mr. Tygart told Mr. Armstrong that he had already had his chance to come clean, and that, at best, if he gave full cooperation, the ban would be eight years.
Mr. Tygart told Mr. Armstrong he stood accused of offenses that stretched beyond doping to a coverup marked by nearly 15 years of denials, threats and actions against anyone who told the truth about doping on the team.
When Mr. Armstrong told Mr. Tygart that he held the keys to his own redemption, said one person with knowledge of the meeting, Mr. Tygart responded: "That's b—." He told Mr. Armstrong that all he wanted to do was figure out a way to compete again.
Mr. Armstrong shot back that he would compete in unsanctioned races, hurled a profanity, and walked out.'0 -
meggiedude wrote:OK, so we agree on the outcome, but for slightly different reasons.
I think it'll be carefully orchestrated to lay the blame elsewhere, and allow him to compete.
I was replying to Trev, hence the 2 arrows...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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OK - Soz.ddraver wrote:meggiedude wrote:OK, so we agree on the outcome, but for slightly different reasons.
I think it'll be carefully orchestrated to lay the blame elsewhere, and allow him to compete.
I was replying to Trev, hence the 2 arrows...Can I upgrade???0 -
In any of his many, many self-congratulatory interviews has he explained why USADA took so long to investigate Armstrong when almost all of their evidence was published by David Walsh and/or disclosed by Vaughters eight years ago?Richmond Racer wrote:Anyone posted this yet? Tygart is one hard-assed dude (said approvingly)Twitter: @RichN950 -
iainf72 wrote:Trev The Rev wrote:Armstrong may confess his own sins but refuse to incriminate anyone else and thus appear to retain some honour.
It's already confirmed he'll name names
That the mindless pursuit of UCI hi-hats by certain fundamentalists may have made it easier for Armstrong's rehab via confession and reparations is a delicious irony.
Imagine what a (no-doubt self-serving) fully contrite Armstrong could do for the image and commercial viability of the sport. Which is even more ironic since this is probably what caused all the trouble in the first case on his comeback from cancer....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
iainf72 wrote:Trev The Rev wrote:Armstrong may confess his own sins but refuse to incriminate anyone else and thus appear to retain some honour.
It's already confirmed he'll name names
I wasn't aware of that. What and where?0 -
iainf72 wrote:Trev The Rev wrote:Armstrong may confess his own sins but refuse to incriminate anyone else and thus appear to retain some honour.
It's already confirmed he'll name names
How many, and whom? I am guessing he's gonna tell nearly all and make a fairly full confession..0 -
iainf72 wrote:Trev The Rev wrote:Armstrong may confess his own sins but refuse to incriminate anyone else and thus appear to retain some honour.
It's already confirmed he'll name names
I wasn't aware of that. What and where?0 -
RichN95 wrote:
In any of his many, many self-congratulatory interviews has he explained why USADA took so long to investigate Armstrong when almost all of their evidence was published by David Walsh and/or disclosed by Vaughters eight years ago?Richmond Racer wrote:Anyone posted this yet? Tygart is one hard-assed dude (said approvingly)
Fair point. I would imagine he would say that until witnesses came forward in numbers to allow for statements to be corroborated, their hands were tied.0 -
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Just wrapped with @lancearmstrong More than 2 1/2 hours . He came READY!0 -
Trev The Rev wrote:iainf72 wrote:Trev The Rev wrote:Armstrong may confess his own sins but refuse to incriminate anyone else and thus appear to retain some honour.
It's already confirmed he'll name names
I wasn't aware of that. What and where?
Don't think we know specifics yet...
Remember that "confirmed" to iain, means "Race Radio said so on Twitter". However in this case there are actual real journos saying it too and interviews with Tygart suggesting that that's what he has to do to get a reduced banWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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is it possible he can see a reduced ban as a way to return and make money again as a pro triathlete? Maybe he'll declare bankrupt soon..SCA, Sunday Times, ASO, South Australia, USPS Qui Tam....Lance won't have a cent left if they get their pound of flesh0
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Dave_1 wrote:is it possible he can see a reduced ban as a way to return and make money again as a pro triathlete? Maybe he'll declare bankrupt soon..SCA, Sunday Times, ASO, South Australia, USPS Qui Tam....Lance won't have a cent left if they get their pound of flesh
Well, he aint gonna become Kona World Champ (which is what he had his heart set on) even if he offers up the world to USADA - reduction of ban to 8 years seems to be the limit.0 -
If he were to win Hawaii ironman the prize is a mere $120000. That would probably cover his legal fees for a week or two.
I'm conflicted, on the one hand I want him to go away and not blight my sport, on the other hand I would be really interested to see what he's capable of over 140.6 miles against the best in Kona.0 -
iainf72 wrote:I wonder who the surprise people he'll name will be.
I think this is the most exciting part.
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It's all about the money so I wonder how he will play the interview and still protect a large sum of his fortune.Contador is the Greatest0 -
Dave_1 wrote:is it possible he can see a reduced ban as a way to return and make money again as a pro triathlete? Maybe he'll declare bankrupt soon..SCA, Sunday Times, ASO, South Australia, USPS Qui Tam....Lance won't have a cent left if they get their pound of flesh
Decent article in the guardian about this...
To sum it up, this is what he has been working on for the last few months. Starting schemes and doing deals...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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They say he is worth $100mn. That is far more than the potential lawsuits, I recall reading the whistle blower suit IF the Govt gets behind it would cost him IF successful $30mn. I dont think he will end up broke. Fact is, they all know that to get LA out of this mess, he is a money earner, so what if he is only left with $1mn! LOL. The book from this alone will rocket.
The thing that interests me is the UCI. It is plain to me that aside from this, nothing going on at the moment will rock the UCI as it stands UNLESS, LA tells the whole truth about the UCI in those years. then, cycling might win. He owes cycling and its his responsibility to help out cleaning the sport top to bottom.0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:Dave_1 wrote:is it possible he can see a reduced ban as a way to return and make money again as a pro triathlete? Maybe he'll declare bankrupt soon..SCA, Sunday Times, ASO, South Australia, USPS Qui Tam....Lance won't have a cent left if they get their pound of flesh
Well, he aint gonna become Kona World Champ (which is what he had his heart set on) even if he offers up the world to USADA - reduction of ban to 8 years seems to be the limit.
No way he will put himself through the legal and financial difficulties he is doing to come back at 50 years old. He's negotiating for 2 years ban or won't give up the information he can0 -
anyone know if the biological passport's adopted in Ironman-land?0
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Personally, I've always felt that Armstrong has more than enough money to settle the doping lawsuits, but I'm intrigued to read that he has mortgaged his house. It might just be for liquidity reasons, but interesting nonetheless.0
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TheBigBean wrote:Personally, I've always felt that Armstrong has more than enough money to settle the doping lawsuits, but I'm intrigued to read that he has mortgaged his house. It might just be for liquidity reasons, but interesting nonetheless.
Low rate of borrowing money in USA might have made that more attractive than selling current investment?0 -
Richmond Racer wrote:anyone know if the biological passport's adopted in Ironman-land?
Nope, they only fairly recently introduced out of competition testing. I think it would be relatively easy to stay ahead of the testers in triathlon (althought here have been a couple of notable scalps taken) but away from Hawaii the rewards are small.0
