Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Just like Armstrong "Never offered USADA a 250,000 donation" you mean? ;)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    He should do one with Paxman. I would definitely watch that.
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    It's not going out live then :?: :roll:
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Are Look Mum No Hands showing it live? If I were them I'd organise a Lance night so everyone could turn up on Trek fixies (that's the bike not the outcome of 7 TdF's), wear their casquettes and drink "survivor blend" espresso.

    It's on a bit late for me but I would otherwise definitely watch it.
    @JaunePeril

    Winner of the Bike Radar Pro Race Wiggins Hour Prediction Competition
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Stedman wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    dennis: welcome to this side. Its been a long and hard road, but finally...

    what's been the gist of the reaction in the US to his forthcoming Oprah thang...

    No clue, but I'm betting it will bring in great ratings and be not much more than the usual Oprah feel good fluff.
    A couple of ego's that need each other to justify their existence.

    I think the phrase you are looking for is 'Credited with creating a more intimate confessional form of media communication' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oprah

    Right. FLUFF or would b*llsh*t be a better word.
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    Seeing as no question is off limits I wonder if she will ask him how he can be clean when so many of his ex teammates have no admitted to doping. As LA himself as said several times he couldn't win without his team mates and they all doped so surely that must mean he can't claim the victory
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/15264/8387620/

    Millar thinks the Oprah thing will be "Stage Managed"

    Armstrong's 1st answer along the lines of ..... A BIG boy made me do it and ran away 8)
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,657
    RichN95 wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Am I the only one who doesn't care? If he admits it, it will only be to benefit himself.
    I don't care either. I know he doper, I don't need him to confirm it.

    Those who really care will only be disappointed if he doesn't admit to everything they think he did (whether actually true or not). Some will be disappointed if he doesn't give it the full Budd Dwyer* treatment

    *(warning: don't go looking for that on You Tube)

    Paging RichN95:

    While you may not be interested in watching it (I won't be, given the time slot) can you not knock us up a few Lance/Oprah quote bingo cards?

    Cheers.
    Warning No formatter is installed for the format
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    Lance could never resist a camera or a microphone. The lure of the limelight was bound to get him in a studio at some point. The personality disorder needs massaging. If he could just admit to having a problem he could then seek professional help to sort it out.
    He would be happier in his own skin if he could admit, to himself at least, his demons, and then put it behind him.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    No tA Doctor wrote:

    Paging RichN95:

    While you may not be interested in watching it (I won't be, given the time slot) can you not knock us up a few Lance/Oprah quote bingo cards?

    Cheers.

    Fortunately, Ladbrokes have done the heavy lifting for us. They're offering odds on him saying various things. Just randomly pick 25 and put them in a 5x5 grid and you're good to go.

    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/lat ... rview.html
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    RaceRadio just corrected. It gets taped on Monday.

    So expect leaks on Tuesday
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    mike6 wrote:
    Lance could never resist a camera or a microphone. The lure of the limelight was bound to get him in a studio at some point. The personality disorder needs massaging. If he could just admit to having a problem he could then seek professional help to sort it out.
    He would be happier in his own skin if he could admit, to himself at least, his demons, and then put it behind him.

    You're assuming that he isn't happy in "his own skin". Maybe he is? As for demons, well, we all have a few of those and mostly we are able to live with them without too many of them causing problems. I think you're assigning demons to him that he may not have. I know pretty much everyone, on this forum, wants him to have all sorts of problems and issues, simply to be a sort of punishment for him but what if he is not as bad off as you would hope? I would speculate that, yes, times are tough for him, much like, on occasion, times are tough on us. This doesn't mean that that it's the end for him any more than it's the end for us when we have problems. At the very least he doesn't seem to be the kind of person to give up on life simply because things aren't going well for the moment. We(you & I) don't simply bail out when times get rough and I doubt LA does either.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Well you know all about what we think of him better than even we ourselves do dennis - Cant you turn you Sherlock Skills onto him for 5 mins and enlighten us?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    ddraver wrote:
    Well you know all about what we think of him better than even we ourselves do dennis - Cant you turn you Sherlock Skills onto him for 5 mins and enlighten us?

    He's a human being living on planet Earth. Gained fame and fortune winning Pro bike races. Later discredited because of drug use. Has 5(?) children. Cancer survivor who founded a cancer charity. Subject of a Grand Jury investigation into misuse of federal funds. Stripped of his 7 TDF titles due to previous drug use.

    Feeling enlightened yet? :? :wink:
  • mike6
    mike6 Posts: 1,199
    Ahhhhh...you had to say it. Cancer survivor. Why is that trotted out every time his name is mentioned as if it excuses him of any wrong doing? I have two family members, and a friend, who have been lucky enough to survive cancer, but, strangely, It dous not define them as people. They never mention it, it was something bad that happened to them and they got over it.
    I did not bad mouth him so why the defensive stance? His type of personality disorder is well documented. Control freak, bully, manipulator, living in denial. So you think he would not be happier if he got help for this and could accept his own, and other peoples frailties?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    dennisn wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Well you know all about what we think of him better than even we ourselves do dennis - Cant you turn you Sherlock Skills onto him for 5 mins and enlighten us?

    He's a human being living on planet Earth. Gained fame and fortune winning Pro bike races. Later discredited because of drug use. Has 5(?) children. Cancer survivor who founded a cancer charity. Subject of a Grand Jury investigation into misuse of federal funds. Stripped of his 7 TDF titles due to previous drug use.

    Feeling enlightened yet? :? :wink:

    Bull Sh1t - You know EXACTLY what our thoughts, our opinions and our beliefs are - what are his!

    Come on Dennis, prove yourself!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    ddraver wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Well you know all about what we think of him better than even we ourselves do dennis - Cant you turn you Sherlock Skills onto him for 5 mins and enlighten us?

    He's a human being living on planet Earth. Gained fame and fortune winning Pro bike races. Later discredited because of drug use. Has 5(?) children. Cancer survivor who founded a cancer charity. Subject of a Grand Jury investigation into misuse of federal funds. Stripped of his 7 TDF titles due to previous drug use.

    Feeling enlightened yet? :? :wink:

    Bull Sh1t - You know EXACTLY what our thoughts, our opinions and our beliefs are

    Wait a minute. Are you telling me that I have been right about you guys all along? :wink::wink:
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Will Fotheringham must have seen the script in advance. Reckon he's spot on:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/20 ... intcmp=239
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    dennisn wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Well you know all about what we think of him better than even we ourselves do dennis - Cant you turn you Sherlock Skills onto him for 5 mins and enlighten us?

    He's a human being living on planet Earth. Gained fame and fortune winning Pro bike races. Later discredited because of drug use. Has 5(?) children. Cancer survivor who founded a cancer charity. Subject of a Grand Jury investigation into misuse of federal funds. Stripped of his 7 TDF titles due to previous drug use.

    Feeling enlightened yet? :? :wink:

    Bull Sh1t - You know EXACTLY what our thoughts, our opinions and our beliefs are

    Wait a minute. Are you telling me that I have been right about you guys all along? :wink::wink:

    Well we have an opportunity to check here - you tell us what Lance is thinking, and then Oprah will find out if youre right...

    Unless of course you think it's all rubbish and you know you re just making stuff up...?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    mike6 wrote:
    Ahhhhh...you had to say it. Cancer survivor. Why is that trotted out every time his name is mentioned as if it excuses him of any wrong doing? I have two family members, and a friend, who have been lucky enough to survive cancer, but, strangely, It dous not define them as people. They never mention it, it was something bad that happened to them and they got over it.
    I did not bad mouth him so why the defensive stance? His type of personality disorder is well documented. Control freak, bully, manipulator, living in denial. So you think he would not be happier if he got help for this and could accept his own, and other peoples frailties?

    I think you may be understating the cancer issue. Sometimes it does define who people are. Many people, who have seen and lived through the ravages of the disease, have dedicated their lives to the search for the cure. To say that LA's intentions, with regard to the disease, were not honorable or serious simply because you don't like him is crazy.

    For what it's worth I don't consider what I said about him a few posts back as defensive. Just a few ideas and speculation at best.

    I don't really know if he's happy or not. You're the one who said, with some authority, that he was / is not. I'm sure he's not the happiest camper at the moment but I don't see him as the type of person to dwell on his condition for long. You seem to be taking a few isolated incidents in his life and making him out to be a nut case because he's got a bit of a temper and likes being the big shot. Using this reasoning I'm thinking that everyone out there, including myself, could have a case made against us for being a bully, mean, uncaring, etc., person.

    In any case I'm on your side now. I can forgive anything that forgiveness will allow but him playing the Oprah card is as low as you can go in my book. Seeking redemption from the public on some phony spiritual TV talk show is a stupid as it gets.
  • jerry3571
    jerry3571 Posts: 1,532
    I think he'll throw Oprah off the scent if he turns up in his Speedos. :lol:

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    “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein

    "You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
    -Jacques Anquetil
  • chrisaonabike
    chrisaonabike Posts: 1,914
    jerry3571 wrote:
    I think he'll throw Oprah off the scent if he turns up in his Speedos. :lol:
    If that isn't proof that he really, really doesn't give a damn what people think of him...

    Ah wait, that's not Soni. My mistake.
    Is the gorilla tired yet?
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    ddraver wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Well you know all about what we think of him better than even we ourselves do dennis - Cant you turn you Sherlock Skills onto him for 5 mins and enlighten us?

    He's a human being living on planet Earth. Gained fame and fortune winning Pro bike races. Later discredited because of drug use. Has 5(?) children. Cancer survivor who founded a cancer charity. Subject of a Grand Jury investigation into misuse of federal funds. Stripped of his 7 TDF titles due to previous drug use.

    Feeling enlightened yet? :? :wink:

    Bull Sh1t - You know EXACTLY what our thoughts, our opinions and our beliefs are

    Wait a minute. Are you telling me that I have been right about you guys all along? :wink::wink:

    Well we have an opportunity to check here - you tell us what Lance is thinking, and then Oprah will find out if youre right...

    Unless of course you think it's all rubbish and you know you re just making stuff up...?

    Of course it's all rubbish. One of my best friends, whom I've known for 55 or so years, still perplexes me at times as to what makes him tick. To say we know all about the people involved in all this is foolish and a bit arrogant. :wink:
  • EightOhEight
    EightOhEight Posts: 170
    posted on inrng -

    Any idea if the rumour that LA is going to ‘singfess’ on Oprah is true? BTW if you don’t know what singfess is, it’s when the lights dim, the house band plays the first few bars to ‘Careless Whisper’ and you rise from the sofa saying ‘Well Oprah, I’ve had a lot on my mind lately…..(emotional gurn) I’M NEVER GONNA DOPE AGAIN, GUILTY PEDALS GOT NO RHYTHM, THOUGH IT’S EASY TO PRETEND, I KNOW YOU’RE NOT A FOOL….(more emotion now) I SHOULD’VE KNOWN BETTER THAN TO CHEAT A FRIEND, WASTE THIS CHANCE THAT I’VE BEEN GIVEN, SO I’M NEVER GONNA DOPE AGAIN, SORRY BETTY ANDREU-HEU-HEU….HE-HE-HE-HEU-U-HEU-U, HE-HE-HE-HEU-U-HEU-U’
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Yet it's perfectly ok for you to know all about our deeper thoughts and feelings about the people involved?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    ChrisAOnABike wrote:
    jerry3571 wrote:
    I think he'll throw Oprah off the scent if he turns up in his Speedos. :lol:
    If that isn't proof that he really, really doesn't give a damn what people think of him...

    I'm thinking that not giving a damn what people think of you is a good thing. It's your life. You need to run it as you see fit.
  • jerry3571
    jerry3571 Posts: 1,532
    Sorry, but I can't do this as I got LA singing in his Speedos. Is George Michael singing in a duet with him??

    Ahh, the immagination is a terrible thing. :cry:

    Jerry
    “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein

    "You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
    -Jacques Anquetil
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    ddraver wrote:
    Yet it's perfectly ok for you to know all about our deeper thoughts and feelings about the people involved?

    The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Are you actually going to answer the question?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    I wonder if Oprah will ask him how he has dodged a jail sentence for so long.

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