Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

heavymental

ddraver wrote:

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/Magazine/Features/article1155948.ece?shareToken=8352496d7274981e34603b3de48c9c41#next

Article by Walsh - have to say it's a little over tragic...

He's just saying it how it is. If it's 'over tragic' its because the situation is over tragic, no?

ddraver

I suppose no one can blame him for cashing in, but there will come a point where he's just whining. I'm getting to that point now...

Alinshearah

Hello, Did something happen?!?

RichN95.

Alinshearah wrote:

Hello, Did something happen?!?

The Toon got a draw away to Liverpool. Just saw it on MOTD.

fidgetyphil

Everybody wants there tuppenceworth now:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/no ... -armstrong

Sportswear firm sues UCI over 'harm' caused by Lance Armstrong scandal

The Australian sportswear company Skins is suing the sport's governing body, UCI, for $2m (£1.2m), claiming its brand has been damaged by the Lance Armstrong doping scandal.

While Skins has never sponsored Armstrong or the UCI, it is seeking compensation for the reputational damage it says it has suffered by investing in a sport "tarnished" by doping.

"Skins was under the illusion that professional cycling had been fundamentally reformed to contain doping and to minimise the risks of scandals with which the brand of any sponsor could be associated," its lawyer, Cedric Aguet, said in a letter to the UCI that was released on Sunday on Sunday. "It has now been proven that these legitimate expectations have been betrayed on the grounds you are aware of."


Sweet mother of mercy.

tarzan13

fidgetyphil wrote:

Everybody wants there tuppenceworth now:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/no ... -armstrong

Sportswear firm sues UCI over 'harm' caused by Lance Armstrong scandal

The Australian sportswear company Skins is suing the sport's governing body, UCI, for $2m (£1.2m), claiming its brand has been damaged by the Lance Armstrong doping scandal.

While Skins has never sponsored Armstrong or the UCI, it is seeking compensation for the reputational damage it says it has suffered by investing in a sport "tarnished" by doping.

"Skins was under the illusion that professional cycling had been fundamentally reformed to contain doping and to minimise the risks of scandals with which the brand of any sponsor could be associated," its lawyer, Cedric Aguet, said in a letter to the UCI that was released on Sunday on Sunday. "It has now been proven that these legitimate expectations have been betrayed on the grounds you are aware of."


Sweet mother of mercy.

They just want to see Pat and Hein walk. This is just a way of adding some pressure.....
www.skins.net/open-letter-to-uci-president.pdf

mike6

andrewjoseph wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

just saw a picture of people burning the effigy of Lance Armstrong. This is too much..to wish harm on someone.. ..I would never wish physical suffering on anyone because I believe in karma

They are burning the 'idea' of lance. he didn't actually feel the flames, there is no voodoo curse working here.

Yes. As far as the Brits are concerned it was burning the superman hero illusion that he built up around himself.

No_Ta_Doctor

mike6 wrote:

andrewjoseph wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

just saw a picture of people burning the effigy of Lance Armstrong. This is too much..to wish harm on someone.. ..I would never wish physical suffering on anyone because I believe in karma

They are burning the 'idea' of lance. he didn't actually feel the flames, there is no voodoo curse working here.

Yes. As far as the Brits are concerned it was burning the superman hero illusion that he built up around himself.

As far as I'm concerned it was a poor substitute for a genuine wicker-man.

disgruntledgoat

I've just finished watching the Freakonomics documentary I recorded ages ago... the omerta stuff in sumo makes cycling look like a church picnic!

Richmond Racer

No tA Doctor wrote:

mike6 wrote:

andrewjoseph wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

just saw a picture of people burning the effigy of Lance Armstrong. This is too much..to wish harm on someone.. ..I would never wish physical suffering on anyone because I believe in karma

They are burning the 'idea' of lance. he didn't actually feel the flames, there is no voodoo curse working here.

Yes. As far as the Brits are concerned it was burning the superman hero illusion that he built up around himself.

As far as I'm concerned it was a poor substitute for a genuine wicker-man.

Ha! that's true! Though I now have this image of Kimmage as played by Christopher Lee leading the chanting around the base of the Wicker Man...

tremayne

Interesting new (to me - anyway!) discovery;

The company (Amgen) who developed EPO in the 1980's, needed money to finance the project.

Therefore in 1983 the managed to raise $40million.

A significant investor was Thom Weisel.

Thom Weisel was also the man behind US Postal.

(a lot more to it than that - a whole paperback in fact - but the above fact certainly sticks out!)

deejay

dennisn wrote:

deejay wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Though i do sense that now lance has been done theres less anger about him and youve moved on to new targets like a pack of rabid dogs. (see the poll for most hated)

No he hasn't been done to my satisfaction because the scumbag is still lying and cannot admit publicly that he is a FRAUD.
I've put up with his and the Media bullsh*t for 15 years and for 5 years before that this bigheaded bum kept telling us how good he thought he was.
He had so many 2nd place's where his mouth had proclaimed he would win. (please don't tell me about the few races he did in fact win with 2 balls)

Well, you're certainly in a sad state of affairs. P*ssed off at the media, p*ssed off at some cyclist's for doping, and the best / worst part is that you have let this eat at you for 20 years. All I can say is I wish you another 20 years of hate, jealously, and pain, as it appears you have a taste for that kind of stuff.

Sorry I've been away but I feel the need to respond to dennison, (who should be out of bed by now) to tell him that far from being "sad" I am HAPPY with the village down the road in Kent. (My old training ground, up & down the North Downs)
Great stuff and more to come world wide. Yippee.
You missed something. ie that for 5 years the "Bigheaded Texan" actually gave some pleasure to my crowd in the 92-96 period. This Century I have tried to avoid anything to do with him and as he could only ride a few races in June/July then I had plenty of races to go to.
When he arrived to a big USA Fanfare (which he believed) and then forecast his ambitions to forthcoming races and couldn't deliver most of the time like = (from my memory)
Looking at German Satellite TV showing Live pictures from the USA Tour de Trump and he was 2nd overall in the last stage Time Trial when last man off Raul Alcala past him and then punctured. We saw the Texan go by and disappear as the Mexican remounted and caught the big mouth and passed him a second time and also disappeared to the finish.
TDF and cameras showing Indurain catching someone in the distance and then whoosh he was past the no hoper from Texas. (the comment I heard was "he ought to go back home and do some more Triathlons because he can't ride a Time Trial in the Pro Ranks".
TDF and a transitional stage with 2 riders away from the selection group with a big gap and he thought he had it in the bag as he made Outschakov lead out and then couldn't get by.
That is 3 memorable incidents he gave immense pleasure for us but I could find others with a bit of research.
PS. I was at the top of Mur de HUY watching him finish.

1996- I said Bollox to Bjarne Riis showing off on a mountain and said the same in 1999 when another Con Artist did the same thing. I was told by idiots at the time that I was wrong and had no knowledge of my sport.
1999-2012 Yes I was brassed off with the media forcing him on me and those stupid commentators with their Love Fest and every cycling magazine with him on their cover that I stopped going in the large newspaper shops and I had to give up going to the TDF because of the many morons on the mountains.
Now it will take more than 20 years for the public to stop remembering the Damage to Cycling that he did and this sport to loose the Music Hall jokes.

To keep this scumbag in the news is a "Key to the UCI corruption" but without him the Fat Paddy could talk his way out of it.

Sorry, It's so painful to you Fan Boys but that makes me happy (not Sad) to be vindicated.

frenchfighter

Just scanned the last three pages in 3 secs. No photos so here are three:



Lance Armstrong ‏@lancearmstrong
Dear cycling websites - i suggest you contact @screaminadam to hear about the crazy shit we did at Plano East in the 80's. #sitehits

frenchfighter

And three for luck

dave_1

any guesses on whether livestrong as a charity will survive? I see he isn't on the board of directors of livestrong anymore..no formal role

k-dog

I would put money on it just fading away. He's too ingrained in the whole thing and they'll never get away from that.

I would imagine their fundraising is drying up and once that's gone they'll disappear quietly.

dennisn

Dave_1 wrote:

any guesses on whether livestrong as a charity will survive? I see he isn't on the board of directors of livestrong anymore..no formal role

Probably depend on who's running it and how they do it. It's a cancer charity and many, many, people are affected by the disease so I would guess it will do OK. Cancer would seem to be the needed focus, not LA and PED's. That's small potatoes compared to the ravages cancer victims face.

sherer

I think once the initial "I think LA is innocent i'll donate" dies down it will end up just going away. I can't see Nike and others publicly dropping this but I can see corporate deals going and it slowing fading into the background

tarzan13

sherer wrote:

I think once the initial "I think LA is innocent i'll donate" dies down it will end up just going away. I can't see Nike and others publicly dropping this but I can see corporate deals going and it slowing fading into the background

The only way for the charity to survive would be for LA to completely remove all ties with the charity. Given that it's his baby not sure if I can see that happening...

nathancom

k-dog wrote:

I would put money on it just fading away. He's too ingrained in the whole thing and they'll never get away from that.

I would imagine their fundraising is drying up and once that's gone they'll disappear quietly.

Yep is image is too tainted and too closely entwined with Livestrong for it to survive and hopefully the money can go to a better cancer charity instead.

dennisn

nathancom wrote:

k-dog wrote:

I would put money on it just fading away. He's too ingrained in the whole thing and they'll never get away from that.

I would imagine their fundraising is drying up and once that's gone they'll disappear quietly.

Yep is image is too tainted and too closely entwined with Livestrong for it to survive and hopefully the money can go to a better cancer charity instead.

Yes, a tainted image(to say the least). Still even the most hardened criminals can see the error of their ways and contribute something to society. If his presence, in some way, helps the fight against cancer then that's a good thing. While I agree that he took a very cold hearted approach to cycling I think it's important to remember that he did fight for his life with cancer and I don't know anyone who has fought that fight and not had compassion for all the others doing battle with it. Only time will tell if he can somehow redeem himself a bit through charity work.

sherer

dennisn wrote:

nathancom wrote:

k-dog wrote:

I would put money on it just fading away. He's too ingrained in the whole thing and they'll never get away from that.

I would imagine their fundraising is drying up and once that's gone they'll disappear quietly.

Yep is image is too tainted and too closely entwined with Livestrong for it to survive and hopefully the money can go to a better cancer charity instead.

Yes, a tainted image(to say the least). Still even the most hardened criminals can see the error of their ways and contribute something to society. If his presence, in some way, helps the fight against cancer then that's a good thing. While I agree that he took a very cold hearted approach to cycling I think it's important to remember that he did fight for his life with cancer and I don't know anyone who has fought that fight and not had compassion for all the others doing battle with it. Only time will tell if he can somehow redeem himself a bit through charity work.

This is what LA wants you to think and all this fight against cancer stuff just seems to be to further his wealth. If he really cared he would pay for his own flights and legal bills not use Livestrong to line his own pocket

tailwindhome

Just thinking

The marketing team at Credit Lyonnais must have an infinite supply of patience.

(or subscribe to the no such think as bad publicity school of thought)

nweststeyn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2o5Rxc ... re=related

deejay

tarzan13 wrote:

sherer wrote:

I think once the initial "I think LA is innocent i'll donate" dies down it will end up just going away. I can't see Nike and others publicly dropping this but I can see corporate deals going and it slowing fading into the background

The only way for the charity to survive would be for LA to completely remove all ties with the charity. Given that it's his baby not sure if I can see that happening...

Stoke Mandeville Hospital the origin of the Paralympics have removed the Jimmy Saville name.
He raised so much money with his charity runs and his name was synonymous with the hospital.

But No More. (ex bike racer or not :roll: )

Gazzetta67

Yet another Ar*e licker coming out in support - I mean who is Beniot Joachim ???? another NOBODY - Jeez Armsrong must have something on him as well as Samuel Sanchez,Indurain,Valverde etc.

iainf72

If Race Radio is right (again), Bruyneel and Ferrari are going to be saying some interesting stuff soon

Gazzetta67

iainf72 wrote:

If Race Radio is right (again), Bruyneel and Ferrari are going to be saying some interesting stuff soon

C'mon Iain - expand - What do u reckon, I'm going for the " They (UCI) knew all along !!!!

iainf72

Yep, although I'm sort of expecting at some point we'll see the race organisers were complicit.

That's already started with that article in the Swiss paper yesterday.

Gazzetta67

I think McQuaid & Verbruggen have not been sleeping well since this broke - I will be surprised if bruyneel does not go down kicking and screaming.