Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

pat1cp

Thats not a picture done by the Missus with her iPhone either. I think it's a pro shot. wide angle lens, lighting etc.. which makes it that little more "in yer face".

Le Commentateur

There's no missus there. Or kids.

RDW

pat1cp wrote:

Thats not a picture done by the Missus with her iPhone either. I think it's a pro shot. wide angle lens, lighting etc.. which makes it that little more "in yer face".

My guess is not a pro shot - too much noise - and that he has that lighting installed anyway (though that's hardly less in your face!). Looks like a panorama rather than a straight wideangle shot (even smartphone apps can do this now).

Vino'sGhost

Jez mon wrote:

Hmmmmm



From Lance's twitter, earlier today

that is a genuine ROFL moment. The mans a loon but this has more style than his socks at least. I like a bit of FU

dave_1

dennisn wrote:

Dave_1 wrote:

any guesses on whether livestrong as a charity will survive? I see he isn't on the board of directors of livestrong anymore..no formal role

Probably depend on who's running it and how they do it. It's a cancer charity and many, many, people are affected by the disease so I would guess it will do OK. Cancer would seem to be the needed focus, not LA and PED's. That's small potatoes compared to the ravages cancer victims face.

Dennis I read it is not now ranked in the top 400 charities anymore. I wouldn't be annoyed if it carried on as the cause is good..but I think a re-branding is needed..moving away from yellow and taking the jerseys away. It's an organisation which helps I guess. Also, it's funny to see the cycling and wider media only reporting today Nov 13th that Lance isn't on the board of directors anymore..I posted that on Nov 9th.

sherer

LA posted a tweet about Vets day that came through to my facebook feed. he hda about 400 comments and most of them all seemed to support him still. Seems some people can't see the wood for the trees

blazing_saddles

mfin

sherer wrote:

LA posted a tweet about Vets day that came through to my facebook feed. he hda about 400 comments and most of them all seemed to support him still. Seems some people can't see the wood for the trees

In America he'll have plenty of support left, cos a lot of Lance supporters don't want to listen, a lot of them believe the man is good. In America where he's an a-list celebrity, the sheer profile of the man and the soundbites about cancer are enough for the masses surely. So its no surprise that people sound positive on fb, plus the fact that fb really works on positivity in general?

I remember seeing a survey of Americans, just a few 1000 or something, and it was taken around the time of the first week of the second Iraq war. Over half of them in the survey thought Saddam Hussein was 'personally involved in 9/11'. hmmmmmmm. Perhaps the same people surveyed knew a lot more about a-list Celebrities, Id rather they knew more about why their country was going to war though.

iainf72

Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.

Richmond Racer

iainf72 wrote:

Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.

Indeed. The man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovi ... s-traffic/

mike6

mfin wrote:

sherer wrote:

LA posted a tweet about Vets day that came through to my facebook feed. he hda about 400 comments and most of them all seemed to support him still. Seems some people can't see the wood for the trees

In America he'll have plenty of support left, cos a lot of Lance supporters don't want to listen, a lot of them believe the man is good. In America where he's an a-list celebrity, the sheer profile of the man and the soundbites about cancer are enough for the masses surely. So its no surprise that people sound positive on fb, plus the fact that fb really works on positivity in general?

I remember seeing a survey of Americans, just a few 1000 or something, and it was taken around the time of the first week of the second Iraq war. Over half of them in the survey thought Saddam Hussein was 'personally involved in 9/11'. hmmmmmmm. Perhaps the same people surveyed knew a lot more about a-list Celebrities, Id rather they knew more about why their country was going to war though.

Yes, the Yanks seem to lap up what they are force fed by the media and the government of the time.
Its the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, but only if you toe the "American" line. The Dixie Chicks found this out when they spoke out against the war in Iraq. They were vilified, sent hate mail and death threats. Having there recordings burned etc.
Also the Americans tend to look after there own, regardless of there faults or behaviour. Think Michael Jackson and OJ. Simpson.

shinyhelmut

Richmond Racer wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.

Indeed. The man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovi ... s-traffic/

Whatever you might think of him he's certainly not stupid.

sherer

I get the feeling all the comments, both positive and negative, still help to feed his ego and make him feel he's still somebody

iainf72

mike6 wrote:

Also the Americans tend to look after there own, regardless of there faults or behaviour. Think Michael Jackson and OJ. Simpson.

Remind me who took down Armstrong then?

Yes, it was the Americans.

No_Ta_Doctor

Richmond Racer wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.

Indeed. The man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovi ... s-traffic/

Oh God. I read the comments. I knew I shouldn't have, but I did. Someone shoot me now please.

thomthom

ShinyHelmut wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.

Indeed. The man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovi ... s-traffic/

Whatever you might think of him he's certainly not stupid.

Doping before and after having cancer seems pretty stupid to me.

mike6

iainf72 wrote:

mike6 wrote:

Also the Americans tend to look after there own, regardless of there faults or behaviour. Think Michael Jackson and OJ. Simpson.

Remind me who took down Armstrong then?

Yes, it was the Americans.

Oh yes, I know that Iain.

I was trying to answer a post that said lots of Americans were still very much pro Lance, despite his cheating and lying.

mididoctors

the yanks should be given credit for having a good go at clearing up this mess

Paul 8v

There still seems to be a sense of denial with the general public over there but fair play to the USADA for taking him down.

dennisn

ShinyHelmut wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.

Indeed. The man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovi ... s-traffic/

Whatever you might think of him he's certainly not stupid.

Once again, here we have someone who, for whatever reason, wants to credit LA with being something he's not. He was a guy who cheated at sport for fame and fortune. Nothing unusual or overly brilliant there. He took drugs that a cancer victum most likely shouldn't have. You can call that smart if you like. He most likely believed he wouldn't get caught and or felt the risk was worth it. How does that translate into smart? Sounds like a whole bunch of people in sports who have been busted.
I'm getting the opinion that whole bunches of people feel the need to make him into some sort of James Bond adversary(the Dr. No or Goldfinger of cycling). Lots of people were simply fooled or suckered, just like you were, by a simple cheat / scam and not a criminal mastermind. Many people need LA to be this world dominating person because they feel badly that they themselves got taken in by it all and that doesn't sit well with their ego's. No one wants to think that they were fooled by a simple scam artist. Sorry about your luck, or should I say poor judgement, but you got owned. Don't feel bad though, you're in good company.

ddraver

You really are an outstanding troll dennis! Your fact twisting/ignoring rivals even Fox News!

In many ways I want to say keep it up, there's a morbid joy in watching how you do it and how you justify it.

Richmond Racer

dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull

disgruntledgoat

Apologies if posted already... but I never knew that about MacQuaid.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/eamon-sweeney-mcquaid-still-blaming-everyone-else-3276782.html

Richmond Racer

disgruntledgoat wrote:

Apologies if posted already... but I never knew that about MacQuaid.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/eamon-sweeney-mcquaid-still-blaming-everyone-else-3276782.html

Yes. Which is also why its so bloody outrageous that he is allowed to have the role he does in the IOC.

dennisn

Richmond Racer wrote:

dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull

I post "over and over" to let everyone know that, in my opinion, most of you are just angry because you got owned. Sorry about your ego's being deflated. I know how that goes, but you need to "get over it" as the saying goes. I know it's sort of dull but so is carrying a grudge, for years on end, because you got taken in by a scammer. And I will continue to remind you of this simply because you continue to carry this load of guilt about thinking you've been made a fool of.

dennisn

ddraver wrote:

You really are an outstanding troll dennis! Your fact twisting/ignoring rivals even Fox News!

Here in the States it's not refered to as Fox News all that much. More likely to be called Fox Entertainment.

Richmond Racer

dennisn wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull

I post "over and over" to let everyone know that, in my opinion, most of you are just angry because you got owned. Sorry about your ego's being deflated. I know how that goes, but you need to "get over it" as the saying goes. I know it's sort of dull but so is carrying a grudge, for years on end, because you got taken in by a scammer. And I will continue to remind you of this simply because you continue to carry this load of guilt about thinking you've been made a fool of.

Same old, same old. You make these sweeping assumptions and generalisations with fark all to back it up as to how 'we' feel.

I didnt follow Armstrong through those 7 years, so how has my ego been deflated, how have I been scammed? Here's a surprise for you dennis...many British and Europeans didnt actually 'follow' him. Amaze, I know :roll: Over here across the water, frankly his steam-rolling dominance in the Tour was dull and monotonous - and besides, European racing has always had a lot more to offer than just the Tour, so he really didnt mean very much to many of us. When he finally retired first time, the emotion felt by most split into the one of the two camps of 'meh' and 'good riddance.'

You continually confuse British and European cycling fans with US fans, most of whom did indeed invest a great deal in the Armstrong myth.

What a silly person you are to make such patronising but oh such so ill-informed judgements and fail to understand such fundamental difference.

EDIT: edited above to make things even easier for dennis to try to understand. doubt it will meet with success.

No_Ta_Doctor

Richmond Racer wrote:

dennisn wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull

I post "over and over" to let everyone know that, in my opinion, most of you are just angry because you got owned. Sorry about your ego's being deflated. I know how that goes, but you need to "get over it" as the saying goes. I know it's sort of dull but so is carrying a grudge, for years on end, because you got taken in by a scammer. And I will continue to remind you of this simply because you continue to carry this load of guilt about thinking you've been made a fool of.

Same old, same old. You make these sweeping assumptions and generalisations with fark all to back it up as to how 'we' feel.

I didnt follow Armstrong through those 7 years, so how has my ego been deflated, how have I been scammed? Here's a surprise for you dennis...many Europeans didnt actually 'follow' him. Amaze, I know :roll: You continually confuse European cycling fans with US ones.

What a silly person you are.

+1

But it doesn't matter how many times you tell him that. Despite the fact that he's never had a beer with us he's happy to do some cod psychology on us, based on various made up facts about our past.

dennisn

Richmond Racer wrote:

dennisn wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull

I post "over and over" to let everyone know that, in my opinion, most of you are just angry because you got owned. Sorry about your ego's being deflated. I know how that goes, but you need to "get over it" as the saying goes. I know it's sort of dull but so is carrying a grudge, for years on end, because you got taken in by a scammer. And I will continue to remind you of this simply because you continue to carry this load of guilt about thinking you've been made a fool of.

Same old, same old. You make these sweeping assumptions and generalisations with fark all to back it up as to how 'we' feel.

So how do you feel then? And don't give me that BS about "we are simply curious". Way too much name calling, finger pointing, looking for dirt on anyone, and accusations galore for all this to be simple curiousity. No. Anger, hate, jealousy, and vengence seem to be the driving factors here.

No_Ta_Doctor

dennisn wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

dennisn wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull

I post "over and over" to let everyone know that, in my opinion, most of you are just angry because you got owned. Sorry about your ego's being deflated. I know how that goes, but you need to "get over it" as the saying goes. I know it's sort of dull but so is carrying a grudge, for years on end, because you got taken in by a scammer. And I will continue to remind you of this simply because you continue to carry this load of guilt about thinking you've been made a fool of.

Same old, same old. You make these sweeping assumptions and generalisations with fark all to back it up as to how 'we' feel.

So how do you feel then? And don't give me that BS about "we are simply curious". Way too much name calling, finger pointing, looking for dirt on anyone, and accusations galore for all this to be simple curiousity. No. Anger, hate, jealousy, and vengence seem to be the driving factors here.

I don't think it's actually possible to explain to you, as you don't like cycling, so you regard what goes on in it as largely irrelevant. We do, so regard the same things as quite important.

Besides which, I personally, have explained to you on several occasions how I feel about US Postal and Armstrong and you've never taken that into account in your amateur group psychoanalysis.