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  • gcwebbyuk
    gcwebbyuk Posts: 1,926
    schayaraks wrote:
    Nick Kanwetz wrote:


    {Lots of useful info}


    Thanks for the great clarification, Nick! From the podcast to the tech support and forum interaction, I can say TrainerRoad is a great 360 degree cycling ecosystem.

    Agreed!
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Am I right in thinking that if I buy the Wahoo ANT+ Bike Case for iPhone I don't need the Wahoo ANT+ Key?

    This is for iPhone 4s.
  • narbs
    narbs Posts: 593
    I've just got some Favero BePro pedals, so did a 20 minute test to make sure my FTP is consistent going forward.

    Rather disappointingly*, I've discovered that the TrainerRoad virtual power calculation is incredibly accurate.

    * was banking on discovering that TR had been underestimating my power by 100w. It hadn't.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,035
    Just yesterday I finished the sweet spot base mid volume II - so have been on TR non stop now for 12 weeks.
    Today I have a cold :-(

    I was planning to FTP later this week (As part of tha apparently brutal build phase - eek), but wonder if I should either simply wait and carry it out when I am back to full health, or if I should do some low intensity maintenance rides in the interim to keep my legs ticking over, and then hopefully have a crack at the FTP on Friday or at the weekend - opinions?

    I'm feeling a bit better already, after feeling pretty ropey last night and this morning, but don't want to short change myself by attempting it too early, and or making myself more ill at the same time.
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Daniel B wrote:
    Just yesterday I finished the sweet spot base mid volume II - so have been on TR non stop now for 12 weeks.
    Today I have a cold :-(

    I was planning to FTP later this week (As part of tha apparently brutal build phase - eek), but wonder if I should either simply wait and carry it out when I am back to full health, or if I should do some low intensity maintenance rides in the interim to keep my legs ticking over, and then hopefully have a crack at the FTP on Friday or at the weekend - opinions?

    I'm feeling a bit better already, after feeling pretty ropey last night and this morning, but don't want to short change myself by attempting it too early, and or making myself more ill at the same time.

    Low intensity maintenance rides in the interim, IMO.

    I also had a cold last week and found a couple of low intensity rides made me feel a lot better, so I would recommend your second option. Kept it sweetspot and below, no high intensity stuff. Stop if you're feeling bad.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,035
    Thanks Bob - I'll see how I am Friday evening, if I'm till getting over it I'll do a light hour, and maybe on Friday too, and then look to hit the test on Sunday or Monday.
    Think I will be going backwards in raw numbers anyway, as the Neo is a lot more accurate than the Vortex was!
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • Nick Kanwetz
    Nick Kanwetz Posts: 100
    schayaraks wrote:
    Nick Kanwetz wrote:


    {Lots of useful info}


    Thanks for the great clarification, Nick! From the podcast to the tech support and forum interaction, I can say TrainerRoad is a great 360 degree cycling ecosystem.

    You're very welcome gentlemen! Thank you for the great feedback, and for your continued support with TrainerRoad.

    Happy Training, and stay fast!

    Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System
  • Nick Kanwetz
    Nick Kanwetz Posts: 100
    Dinyull wrote:
    Am I right in thinking that if I buy the Wahoo ANT+ Bike Case for iPhone I don't need the Wahoo ANT+ Key?

    This is for iPhone 4s.

    Bingo! 4s will work great, it's the iPhone 5 or newer that won't work. :)

    Let us know if you have any issues with it!

    Thanks!

    Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System
  • narbs
    narbs Posts: 593
    One thing I've noticed since switching from virtual to actual power readings is that the VP readings from my Elite Qubo Fluid trainer were significantly affected by the temperature of the trainer.

    I'd thought that I was finding the back end of workouts easier because of being fully warmed up etc, but now find that after about 35-40 minutes I need a much higher cadence in the same gear to put out the same power.

    I did Bashful+1 yesterday and the first series of 7x1min at 125% was done at a cadence of 95. By the third series, I was having to pedal at 109 to hit the same power numbers.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,035
    edited April 2017
    narbs wrote:
    One thing I've noticed since switching from virtual to actual power readings is that the VP readings from my Elite Qubo Fluid trainer were significantly affected by the temperature of the trainer.

    I'd thought that I was finding the back end of workouts easier because of being fully warmed up etc, but now find that after about 35-40 minutes I need a much higher cadence in the same gear to put out the same power.

    I did Bashful+1 yesterday and the first series of 7x1min at 125% was done at a cadence of 95. By the third series, I was having to pedal at 109 to hit the same power numbers.

    Am I correct in thinking you are using the same turbo but now have a power meter of some kind?
    And I also assume that it's not a smart trainer, so you are not running in ERG mode?

    In which case, would you not be better (Assuming you want to run at that sort of cadence) to just tinker with the gears in an upwards direction? Or were you just doing that to kind of prove the fact?

    I agree though, I used to use an Elite Fluid trainer, and as far as I was aware, the oil inside would heat up, and the viscosity would change, become less dense, and so the resistance would reduce.
    To maintain my HR range I would need to click up the gears.
    Much better now I can do it with power though - delighted I made the change.
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • narbs
    narbs Posts: 593
    Daniel B wrote:
    narbs wrote:
    One thing I've noticed since switching from virtual to actual power readings is that the VP readings from my Elite Qubo Fluid trainer were significantly affected by the temperature of the trainer.

    I'd thought that I was finding the back end of workouts easier because of being fully warmed up etc, but now find that after about 35-40 minutes I need a much higher cadence in the same gear to put out the same power.

    I did Bashful+1 yesterday and the first series of 7x1min at 125% was done at a cadence of 95. By the third series, I was having to pedal at 109 to hit the same power numbers.

    Am I correct in thinking you are using the same turbo but now have a power meter of some kind?
    And I also assume that it's not a smart trainer, so you are not running in ERG mode?

    In which case, would you not be better (Assuming you want to run at that sort of cadence) to just tinker with the hears in an upwards direction?

    I agree though, I used to use an Elite Fluid trainer, and as far as I was aware, the oil inside would heat up, and the viscosity would change, become less dense, and so the resistance would reduce.

    Exactly right Daniel, I'm now using BePro pedals. Quite happy to adjust the gears but as an experiment I kept the gearing the same yesterday - I was expecting some reduction in resistance from the trainer but was surprised by how much.

    I was also disappointed to discover that after a half hour warm up I'm not actually any better :)
  • mechanism
    mechanism Posts: 891
    Mechanism wrote:
    I started Sweet Spot Base Mid Volume II today with the 8 Minute Test. The result... 6.6% lower than at the start of Sweet Spot Base Mid Volume I.

    Oops.

    It took me 4 weeks to get around to doing another FTP test but this time saw a solid improvement so all the effort seems to be paying off. Workouts will be that much harder now unfortunately :(
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,035
    I have completed 12 weeks of the base training, and yesterday carried out my 3rd FTP of the year - was not expecting much, as having changed trainers about 3 weeks ago, and finding it way tougher with a more accurate trainer, was thinking I might even technically go down in the FTP stakes.

    As in the original turbo was over reading, and I could not complete some of the workouts at 100%.

    However, I went for the twin 8 test last night, and ended up with a 10% improvement, which I was totally chuffed with.

    My legs are feeling so much better (Span then out earlier today on a kind of recovery ride as scheduled on the plan) and there was no aches at all.
    I realise the workout scheduled in for tomorrow will be the first real challenge, and people comments up above about not managing to get through them on 100% makes me slightly nervous - but I'll see how I get on.
    Up at 05:30 to be on the turbo for 06:00 tomorrow.
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • Nick Kanwetz
    Nick Kanwetz Posts: 100
    Daniel B wrote:
    I have completed 12 weeks of the base training, and yesterday carried out my 3rd FTP of the year - was not expecting much, as having changed trainers about 3 weeks ago, and finding it way tougher with a more accurate trainer, was thinking I might even technically go down in the FTP stakes.

    As in the original turbo was over reading, and I could not complete some of the workouts at 100%.

    However, I went for the twin 8 test last night, and ended up with a 10% improvement, which I was totally chuffed with.

    My legs are feeling so much better (Span then out earlier today on a kind of recovery ride as scheduled on the plan) and there was no aches at all.
    I realise the workout scheduled in for tomorrow will be the first real challenge, and people comments up above about not managing to get through them on 100% makes me slightly nervous - but I'll see how I get on.
    Up at 05:30 to be on the turbo for 06:00 tomorrow.

    Excellent work man! Thanks to all your hard work of course! :)

    Keep up the great work. Happy Training!

    Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,035
    Nick Kanwetz wrote:
    Daniel B wrote:
    I have completed 12 weeks of the base training, and yesterday carried out my 3rd FTP of the year - was not expecting much, as having changed trainers about 3 weeks ago, and finding it way tougher with a more accurate trainer, was thinking I might even technically go down in the FTP stakes.

    As in the original turbo was over reading, and I could not complete some of the workouts at 100%.

    However, I went for the twin 8 test last night, and ended up with a 10% improvement, which I was totally chuffed with.

    My legs are feeling so much better (Span then out earlier today on a kind of recovery ride as scheduled on the plan) and there was no aches at all.
    I realise the workout scheduled in for tomorrow will be the first real challenge, and people comments up above about not managing to get through them on 100% makes me slightly nervous - but I'll see how I get on.
    Up at 05:30 to be on the turbo for 06:00 tomorrow.

    Excellent work man! Thanks to all your hard work of course! :)

    Keep up the great work. Happy Training!

    Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

    Cheers Nick - I've probably only been this fast once before, and that took longer than 12 weeks I can tell you!
    Thankyou also for all of your answers to multiple questions, I think I rudely may not have said thanks for your last reply, so apologies for that :oops:

    I wish I had had Trainerroad and a decent trainer 20 years ago - what might have been!

    The method behind Trainerroad just really seems to click with me, and as long as I am fit and healthy I am straining at the leash to get back on for another session, and then see what I can achieve in the next FTP.
    The pedal quadrant stuff is superb, as is finding the wings of the saddle, think all these years I have been sat too far forwards :oops:
    I guess I am just one of those people who likes to hit the numbers - some people don't enjoy it, but I apparently do!
    I am targeting\hoping for a 10% improvement in 4 weeks time, and likewise before the start of the next course - IF I can manage that, I will then be at 3.5W per kg - probably pie in the sky, but may as well aim high, I am not someone who will be massively demotivated if I do not hit it, as long as I feel I have done the best I can.

    Yet another question for you - I'm planning to carry out some outdoor rides (probably one a week), so as I see it I have 3 main options.

    1 - Carry out a low volume plan - get those 3 rides completed during the week, leaving the weekend free
    2 - Stick with my mid volume general build plan - substitute\replace one of the rides with an outdoor ride
    3 - Stick with my mid volume general build plan - add the outdoor rides in, and either fit them in to the 8 week block (Could be tricky), or take perhaps 9 weeks over the course, instead of the prescribed 8.

    The last option popped into my head, as the two build phases I have completed, I did so in 5 weeks and 2 days, and 5 weeks and 4 days respectively - the reason being that with a young family I have to fit rides in as and when I can, so I just look at a time slot, and wedge a ride in there that will fit - this generally means they are completed reasonably out of the prescribed order, but still seem to have the desired effect!

    Thanks
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • Nick Kanwetz
    Nick Kanwetz Posts: 100
    Daniel B wrote:

    Cheers Nick - I've probably only been this fast once before, and that took longer than 12 weeks I can tell you!
    Thankyou also for all of your answers to multiple questions, I think I rudely may not have said thanks for your last reply, so apologies for that :oops:

    I wish I had had Trainerroad and a decent trainer 20 years ago - what might have been!

    The method behind Trainerroad just really seems to click with me, and as long as I am fit and healthy I am straining at the leash to get back on for another session, and then see what I can achieve in the next FTP.
    The pedal quadrant stuff is superb, as is finding the wings of the saddle, think all these years I have been sat too far forwards :oops:
    I guess I am just one of those people who likes to hit the numbers - some people don't enjoy it, but I apparently do!
    I am targeting\hoping for a 10% improvement in 4 weeks time, and likewise before the start of the next course - IF I can manage that, I will then be at 3.5W per kg - probably pie in the sky, but may as well aim high, I am not someone who will be massively demotivated if I do not hit it, as long as I feel I have done the best I can.

    Yet another question for you - I'm planning to carry out some outdoor rides (probably one a week), so as I see it I have 3 main options.

    1 - Carry out a low volume plan - get those 3 rides completed during the week, leaving the weekend free
    2 - Stick with my mid volume general build plan - substitute\replace one of the rides with an outdoor ride
    3 - Stick with my mid volume general build plan - add the outdoor rides in, and either fit them in to the 8 week block (Could be tricky), or take perhaps 9 weeks over the course, instead of the prescribed 8.

    The last option popped into my head, as the two build phases I have completed, I did so in 5 weeks and 2 days, and 5 weeks and 4 days respectively - the reason being that with a young family I have to fit rides in as and when I can, so I just look at a time slot, and wedge a ride in there that will fit - this generally means they are completed reasonably out of the prescribed order, but still seem to have the desired effect!

    Thanks

    I have a feeling more speed is on the horizon as well. ;) And don't worry for a second about not getting back, we're always happy to help!

    There is no doubt you are an ideal user for TrainerRoad. We're beyond glad to hear how much it jives with your lifestyle and commitment. Aiming high isn't a problem. Nothing is as important for success as the single-minded objective of a goal (I may have stolen that from someone...). But they become more manageable as we break down the overall goal into smaller, bite-sized chunks to achieve them.

    As long as we're still seeing the desired effect, your approach is great! You should feel comfortable making the tweaks that work for you. Matt Russell, professional triathlete said it best: "The key to success is consistency and working hard...[training] is like a big jig-saw puzzle. Each person's puzzle looks a little different and it takes time to figure out what works best for you". Good on you for finding what works for you.

    And to get to your question, I would lead towards option 2. I believe it would be the better approach as you can get an idea of what type of workout was scheduled for that day and you could replicate certain aspects of it outdoors if you wish. :)

    Stoked on your update and what the future season brings man!

    Thanks again!

    Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System
  • snappygear
    snappygear Posts: 212
    All,

    After a bit of advice!

    I've been using TR since the start of this year and so far just about completed 2 x 8 week plans with really good results. However, for the next 8 week block I want to be able to select my own choice of rides and ride them in the order that suits particular weeks.

    Is there a way of once I know which rides I want, to save them down in an area or location so I can pull them up like a defined ride sequence, or is it a case of noting the names and searching for them manually on the given date?

    Thanks in advance

    Rob
    http://www.rideforalice.co.uk/
  • Nick Kanwetz
    Nick Kanwetz Posts: 100
    snappygear wrote:
    All,

    After a bit of advice!

    I've been using TR since the start of this year and so far just about completed 2 x 8 week plans with really good results. However, for the next 8 week block I want to be able to select my own choice of rides and ride them in the order that suits particular weeks.

    Is there a way of once I know which rides I want, to save them down in an area or location so I can pull them up like a defined ride sequence, or is it a case of noting the names and searching for them manually on the given date?

    Thanks in advance

    Rob

    Hi Rob,

    Great work so far! Really glad to hear you're seeing good results!

    There isn't a way for you to construct your own plan at the moment other than doing it manually like you mentioned. You could work around this by adding those workouts you'd like in your "plan" to the "Favorites" section of the workouts.

    To favorite workouts, navigate to the workout you'd like to favorite. If you're on mobile, open the workout details of that specific workout, select the three dots in the top, right-hand corner of the screen. There you'll be given the option to "Favorite Workout". After you do this, you'll find any and all favorited workouts live in the "Favorites" section of the Workouts tab from within the app. So after you go to "workouts", you'll see "Favorite Workouts". That's where you'll find 'em. :)

    If you're on the desktop app, you'll find stars next to all workouts that you can select. Any workout you add a star to will be added to the "Favorites" tab of the "Workouts" section of the app.

    If you like the satisfaction of seeing your workouts marked off in the calendar view, you can enter in any plan that fits the number of days you'll be working out. Then simply assign those workouts from your custom plan to the plan that you've arbitrarily entered into. It'll then display the workouts you actually did instead of the scheduled ride. But this way you'll be able to see all your hard work checked off.

    P.S. We plan on bringing functionality to the app down the road that'll allow you to create your own training plan of sorts. Stay tuned!

    Hope this helps! Let us know if your run into any other questions or concerns.

    Thanks,
  • snappygear
    snappygear Posts: 212
    Nick Kanwetz wrote:
    snappygear wrote:
    All,

    After a bit of advice!

    I've been using TR since the start of this year and so far just about completed 2 x 8 week plans with really good results. However, for the next 8 week block I want to be able to select my own choice of rides and ride them in the order that suits particular weeks.

    Is there a way of once I know which rides I want, to save them down in an area or location so I can pull them up like a defined ride sequence, or is it a case of noting the names and searching for them manually on the given date?

    Thanks in advance

    Rob

    Hi Rob,

    Great work so far! Really glad to hear you're seeing good results!

    There isn't a way for you to construct your own plan at the moment other than doing it manually like you mentioned. You could work around this by adding those workouts you'd like in your "plan" to the "Favorites" section of the workouts.

    To favorite workouts, navigate to the workout you'd like to favorite. If you're on mobile, open the workout details of that specific workout, select the three dots in the top, right-hand corner of the screen. There you'll be given the option to "Favorite Workout". After you do this, you'll find any and all favorited workouts live in the "Favorites" section of the Workouts tab from within the app. So after you go to "workouts", you'll see "Favorite Workouts". That's where you'll find 'em. :)

    If you're on the desktop app, you'll find stars next to all workouts that you can select. Any workout you add a star to will be added to the "Favorites" tab of the "Workouts" section of the app.

    If you like the satisfaction of seeing your workouts marked off in the calendar view, you can enter in any plan that fits the number of days you'll be working out. Then simply assign those workouts from your custom plan to the plan that you've arbitrarily entered into. It'll then display the workouts you actually did instead of the scheduled ride. But this way you'll be able to see all your hard work checked off.

    P.S. We plan on bringing functionality to the app down the road that'll allow you to create your own training plan of sorts. Stay tuned!

    Hope this helps! Let us know if your run into any other questions or concerns.

    Thanks,

    Many thanks for the help! I like the idea of the reassigned workouts, that could work really well!

    2 weeks of tapering, another ftp test and away we go again!
    http://www.rideforalice.co.uk/
  • Nick Kanwetz
    Nick Kanwetz Posts: 100
    snappygear wrote:
    Many thanks for the help! I like the idea of the reassigned workouts, that could work really well!

    2 weeks of tapering, another ftp test and away we go again!

    Heck ya! You're very welcome. Back on the bandwaggon we go!!

    Happy Training!

    Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System
  • schayaraks
    schayaraks Posts: 13
    Quick question about what I'm missing in the cardiovascular/muscular arsenal: I've completed SSB1 using my FTP as tested on the first workout of the plan, throughout the plan I've tried to complete Half-Dome on a few occasions but have always faded off in the last interval. I've now started SSB2 and with the first workout I've re-tested FTP and it's gone up by almost 10% (which I'm very happy about).

    But the question still bothers me why I can't complete Half-Dome using my old FTP (which is about 90%) of my most recent FTP. What am I missing (muscular endurance, VO2max, something else)? And what kind of workouts would help to improve this weak area. (I've purposely selected the low-volume plan but I'd like to sprinkle in workouts here and there that will help me to work on this weak area)
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Have done ssb 1 and 2 myself. Half Dome is pretty savage - ssb has mainly sweetspot intervals but Half Dome is above VO2 so it's not really a surprise you struggle, it's not what your current training is focused on.

    Once you get into build where you have more threshold and vo2 intervals you should start to find it easier. And certainly in specialty (I'm doing rolling road race) as the workouts start to get a lot more similar to Half Dome in terms of the efforts.

    Even then it is a very intense workout so I think anyone will struggle a bit towards the end - that's probably the point.

    So if you wanted to complete half dome you could look at the later workouts and do more VO2 and anaerobic intervals - or you could just follow the training plan... it's phased the way it is for a reason!
  • schayaraks
    schayaraks Posts: 13
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Have done ssb 1 and 2 myself. Half Dome is pretty savage - ssb has mainly sweetspot intervals but Half Dome is above VO2 so it's not really a surprise you struggle, it's not what your current training is focused on.

    Once you get into build where you have more threshold and vo2 intervals you should start to find it easier. And certainly in specialty (I'm doing rolling road race) as the workouts start to get a lot more similar to Half Dome in terms of the efforts.

    Even then it is a very intense workout so I think anyone will struggle a bit towards the end - that's probably the point.

    So if you wanted to complete half dome you could look at the later workouts and do more VO2 and anaerobic intervals - or you could just follow the training plan... it's phased the way it is for a reason!

    Thanks for the reassuring words of experience! From a psychological perspective I chose low volume because I knew I couldn't commit to 4-5 workouts a week and didn't want to "skip workouts". From the podcast earlier this month (the one with the lips taped shut) Nate Pearson mentions that he sprinkles in Endurance workouts to increase his TSS so I kind of want to take a page from that and add in workouts that will focus on my weaknesses (hopefully not long in duration due to time but high in focus).
  • mechanism
    mechanism Posts: 891
    Without wanting to state the obvious, a 20 minute workout with 6 anaerobic intervals is about as far from endurance as you can get :)
  • schayaraks
    schayaraks Posts: 13
    Mechanism wrote:
    Without wanting to state the obvious, a 20 minute workout with 6 anaerobic intervals is about as far from endurance as you can get :)

    Haha! Yes, of course. But I'm saying "work on my weakness" (not Nate Pearson's) which clearly show in workouts like Half Dome.
  • pirnie
    pirnie Posts: 242
    schayaraks wrote:
    Mechanism wrote:
    Without wanting to state the obvious, a 20 minute workout with 6 anaerobic intervals is about as far from endurance as you can get :)

    Haha! Yes, of course. But I'm saying "work on my weakness" (not Nate Pearson's) which clearly show in workouts like Half Dome.

    The difference between what you're suggesting and what Nate is doing is the intensity of the additional workouts. Endurance workouts are inherently less stressful on the body than a workout with an IF of 1.02. If you think you can handle the added stress without burning out, and without your other workouts suffering then I'd say go for it. However, if you find it's hurting the workouts in the plan then maybe better to leave the VO2 work to the build phase when it is built into the plan
  • Roubaixsl3
    Roubaixsl3 Posts: 48
    I'm using the android app on a Samsung Edge S7. I have a YouTube video music playlist i listen to during workouts, until recently that is. Previously I was told that to keep YouTube playing in the background i should run the mobile version via the Firefox browser which worked a treat. Now however as soon as i put Firefox into the background YouTube playback stops. As i understand it this is something that YouTube have insisted on to encourage people to pay for YouTube red that will allow background playback. I ran this past the TR folks and they said they had no issues with running it in the background on the same phone, same browser. Does anyone in the UK have a workaround for this, or am i doing something wrong ?. I don't want to start having to use another device just for music.
  • William Marshall
    William Marshall Posts: 23
    Feedback on indoor training converting to outdoor rides:

    For last 18 months or so I've pretty much holed up indoors on the trainer and ridden very little outside for one reason or another. Ridden low volume SweetSpot 1&2, Sustained Power, SweetSpot 1&2 etc I've been wondering how it would feel doing a longer ride outdoors so have done a couple of solo 100k rides recently without café stops.

    Feedback is I've found it absolutely fine. Neck and bum a bit achy around 80k mark but conditioning and legs not an issue at all. Tried riding low zone 3 but ended up 15bpm higher as I couldn't get myself to roll that slow\easy. On the up side, it meant I got round quicker so neck and bum ached less lol. So if anyone is time crunched and wondering about sportives etc, from my experience you'll be fine.

    Humm wonder which plan to do next ...
  • Nick Kanwetz
    Nick Kanwetz Posts: 100
    Roubaixsl3 wrote:
    I'm using the android app on a Samsung Edge S7. I have a YouTube video music playlist i listen to during workouts, until recently that is. Previously I was told that to keep YouTube playing in the background i should run the mobile version via the Firefox browser which worked a treat. Now however as soon as i put Firefox into the background YouTube playback stops. As i understand it this is something that YouTube have insisted on to encourage people to pay for YouTube red that will allow background playback. I ran this past the TR folks and they said they had no issues with running it in the background on the same phone, same browser. Does anyone in the UK have a workaround for this, or am i doing something wrong ?. I don't want to start having to use another device just for music.

    You're not doing anything wrong. :/ Unfortunately, the latest firefox update through a wrench in the ability to do background playback. I'll post if I hear of any changes with that, though!

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news!

    Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System
  • peteco
    peteco Posts: 184
    Interesting thanks. I had a concern that I was getting good at raising my FTP, but had no idea how it would translate to longer rides outside. Like you I found that all the training had a very positive effect on longer rides. I am now going faster and finding longer rides easier than last year.

    Looking forward to the summer.

    Pete


    William Marshall wrote:
    Feedback on indoor training converting to outdoor rides:

    For last 18 months or so I've pretty much holed up indoors on the trainer and ridden very little outside for one reason or another. Ridden low volume SweetSpot 1&2, Sustained Power, SweetSpot 1&2 etc I've been wondering how it would feel doing a longer ride outdoors so have done a couple of solo 100k rides recently without café stops.

    Feedback is I've found it absolutely fine. Neck and bum a bit achy around 80k mark but conditioning and legs not an issue at all. Tried riding low zone 3 but ended up 15bpm higher as I couldn't get myself to roll that slow\easy. On the up side, it meant I got round quicker so neck and bum ached less lol. So if anyone is time crunched and wondering about sportives etc, from my experience you'll be fine.

    Humm wonder which plan to do next ...

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