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schayaraks

TrainerRoad team, I've been trying to build custom workouts and seem to have encountered a strange issue. When building the workout below, I started with Carson 30 and wanted to add high intensity bursts to start off each sweet spot interval - so what I did was "duplicate segment" and adjusted the newly created segment to be as intense and as short as I wanted. It worked well for the first two segments but the last segment resulted in the sloped intervals below:



You'll notice that the rest period before the last interval and the last interval itself are oddly sloped and when the workout is executed the Target Power actually follows this slope.

I've tried to "delete" the slopes or modify them to be flat but doesn't work. Am I missing something here? How do I fix the workouts so they don't have these funky slopes?

daniel_b

Evening all, question for Nick and any fellow TR experts really.

Am over halfway through the build phase, recently upped my ftp from 197 to 215, despite carrying a chesty cough, which is finally, after 5 weeks starting to abate. Not big numbers I know, but was around 140 in Jan, so pretty darned happy with that.

Anyway, onto my question.

Through all the quadrant drills I have ended up.in general with a steady comfortable cadence of about 92. Todays workout was 5 ten minute blocks of between 204, and 212, iirc.

I nearly stopped several times (not done so, so far for any workout) but kept going.
However I was not able to maintain my cadence, it went: 87, 86, 84, 80, 81.
84 was the highest power rating.
My HR was also lower than I would normally expect, which I guess just means I shifted the load from cardio to my muscles more?

So my question is, should I have:

A) Done what I did, it's fine and still beneficial, despite it feeling somewhat of a slog
Aborted halfway through - if you are fatigued and can't ride effectively at 100% with an appropriate cadence there's no point.
C) Dropped the percentage down to 95 or 90 to allow me to maintain my more efficient cadence
D) MTFU'd, dug deep and spun at my desired and most efficient rate

Curious to see what Nick's and other users opinions will be, and might shape how I tackle it next time.

This was also off the back of an equally hard effort yesterday afternoon on TR, so not sure if accumulated fatigue might have played a part.
The schedule was meant to be the easier ride the day after, but my personal schedule means I just have to try and fit the rides in whenever I can - my usual schedule for the mid volume is:

Monday evening - 2 hours
Tuesday afternoon - 90 minutes
Wednesday morning - 90 minutes
Thursday morning - 1 hour (Easier ride)
Friday evening - 90 minutes



Thanks

Dan

Nick Kanwetz

schayaraks wrote:

TrainerRoad team, I've been trying to build custom workouts and seem to have encountered a strange issue. When building the workout below, I started with Carson 30 and wanted to add high intensity bursts to start off each sweet spot interval - so what I did was "duplicate segment" and adjusted the newly created segment to be as intense and as short as I wanted. It worked well for the first two segments but the last segment resulted in the sloped intervals below:



You'll notice that the rest period before the last interval and the last interval itself are oddly sloped and when the workout is executed the Target Power actually follows this slope.

I've tried to "delete" the slopes or modify them to be flat but doesn't work. Am I missing something here? How do I fix the workouts so they don't have these funky slopes?

Sorry for the delay!

Yikes..that's very interesting!

I'm going to relay this information over to our Development Support Specialists as I've never seen this before. Can we have you also send us this info to support@trainerroad.com so we can investigate there? That'll help keep everything organized to get you back on track ASAP.

Thanks again for bringing this to our attention! We'll look forward to hearing from you.

Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

Nick Kanwetz

Daniel B wrote:

Through all the quadrant drills I have ended up.in general with a steady comfortable cadence of about 92. Todays workout was 5 ten minute blocks of between 204, and 212, iirc.

I nearly stopped several times (not done so, so far for any workout) but kept going.
However I was not able to maintain my cadence, it went: 87, 86, 84, 80, 81.
84 was the highest power rating.
My HR was also lower than I would normally expect, which I guess just means I shifted the load from cardio to my muscles more?

So my question is, should I have:

A) Done what I did, it's fine and still beneficial, despite it feeling somewhat of a slog
Aborted halfway through - if you are fatigued and can't ride effectively at 100% with an appropriate cadence there's no point.
C) Dropped the percentage down to 95 or 90 to allow me to maintain my more efficient cadence
D) MTFU'd, dug deep and spun at my desired and most efficient rate

Curious to see what Nick's and other users opinions will be, and might shape how I tackle it next time.

This was also off the back of an equally hard effort yesterday afternoon on TR, so not sure if accumulated fatigue might have played a part.
The schedule was meant to be the easier ride the day after, but my personal schedule means I just have to try and fit the rides in whenever I can - my usual schedule for the mid volume is:

Monday evening - 2 hours
Tuesday afternoon - 90 minutes
Wednesday morning - 90 minutes
Thursday morning - 1 hour (Easier ride)
Friday evening - 90 minutes



Thanks

Dan

Hi Dan,

Kudos on maintaining the great work this season! Stoked to hear it.

As for your question, Coach Chad and I were able to discuss it a bit and I wanted to relay his thoughts:

Low cadence is a common sign of fatigue, but maybe not too much fatigue to keep the workout productive. Spinning more slowly than usual but hitting target watts keeps the workout pretty in line with its reqs/intended benefit. So no worries there.

What’d I’d be concerned with is that the level of recovery isn’t sufficient for the next workout and maybe the intensity of that follow-up workout is a little too high to allow sufficient rest.

So a slow cadence every once in a while, that doesn’t carry into the next, more meaningful workout, is ok. But if this happens with all of these lower-intensity, next-day workouts, then those workouts might need to be made easier via lower watts and/or shorter workout duration.

Level of recovery is the focus, so base any modification on its effect on subsequent key (high-intensity intervals) workouts.

So I think you're fine in the approach you took. But I think it's also worth monitoring just how often it happens, then you can make adjustments like finding an alternate workout version, or reducing the intensity such that you can complete the ride without hampering the next day's.

Hope this gets you pointed in the right direction man! Ride hard!

Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

daniel_b

Thanks for the support Nick, much appreciated.

5 months in, and still addicted, 3/4 of the way through general build now. A 37C workout the other day in the garage was a bit of a struggle though........
That wasn't the one I was talking about though, I hasten to add, it was a recovery sort of 1 hour workout.

I carried out a workout mid morning yesterday (Ansel Adams +4) where it involved 3 X 8 of 50 second above FTP efforts, with I think 40 second recovery inbetween - wow that 40 seconds went fast.

I managed the first 4 of 8 at over 100 rpm, as prescribed, and then started struggling a bit.
My cadence dropped a bit, and halfway through the next block of 8, I decided to drop intensity to 95%.
I was already fairly cooked by this point, so despite the drop in intensity, I could still only manage to keep the cadence (mostly) above 90rpm.
Perhaps in this instance, I should have dropped the intensity earlier on, to see if I could maintain cadence throughout the workout.

I have seen a fair few posts by people saying they have struggled, or even halted workouts in the build phase, citing it as being very tough, so maybe I am experiencing that also - I have yet to bail out on a workout, and hope to keep that the case!

Think I will be doing this one tonight:

Galena +1 is 3x20-minute efforts at 95% FTP with 5 minutes of recovery between intervals.

See how this one pans out.

Cheers

Dan

schayaraks

Nick Kanwetz wrote:

Can we have you also send us this info to support@trainerroad.com so we can investigate there? That'll help keep everything organized to get you back on track ASAP.

Done, Nick! And thanks for starting the investigation.

pirnie

I'm having a strange problem with TrainerRoad on my Windows 10 laptop.I have emailed support but was wondering if anyone here could help.

It started after my ride yesterday when the ride wouldn't sync. Now whenever TrainerRoad is open the internet speed on my laptop slows to a point when webpages won't load. TrainerRoad also won't sync rides and my ride is still not uploaded. It's almost like the ride is stuck in an upload queue and hogging the connection but unable to upload. I've tried to uninstall and reinstall but no joy.

William Marshall

Daniel B wrote:

Evening all, question for Nick and any fellow TR experts really.

No expert, but iirc (and it was in a recent podcast as well) power is king. It doesn't matter if your cadence has drifted down, you had to stand, you promised yourself doughnuts or prayed to sweet baby Jesus for deliverance as long as you hit you power. Everything else is extra. Low cadence may have moved it to slightly more muscular but 80 isn't especially low. Hit the power and work on cadence over the training block.

pirnie

pirnie wrote:

I'm having a strange problem with TrainerRoad on my Windows 10 laptop.I have emailed support but was wondering if anyone here could help.

It started after my ride yesterday when the ride wouldn't sync. Now whenever TrainerRoad is open the internet speed on my laptop slows to a point when webpages won't load. TrainerRoad also won't sync rides and my ride is still not uploaded. It's almost like the ride is stuck in an upload queue and hogging the connection but unable to upload. I've tried to uninstall and reinstall but no joy.

All. Sorted now thanks to support. Turning off Bluetooth solved the problem. I could then force an upload of the ride and when I restarted it all worked fine, just in case anyone else encounters the same issue.

Nick Kanwetz

Daniel B wrote:

Thanks for the support Nick, much appreciated.

5 months in, and still addicted, 3/4 of the way through general build now. A 37C workout the other day in the garage was a bit of a struggle though........
That wasn't the one I was talking about though, I hasten to add, it was a recovery sort of 1 hour workout.

I carried out a workout mid morning yesterday (Ansel Adams +4) where it involved 3 X 8 of 50 second above FTP efforts, with I think 40 second recovery inbetween - wow that 40 seconds went fast.

I managed the first 4 of 8 at over 100 rpm, as prescribed, and then started struggling a bit.
My cadence dropped a bit, and halfway through the next block of 8, I decided to drop intensity to 95%.
I was already fairly cooked by this point, so despite the drop in intensity, I could still only manage to keep the cadence (mostly) above 90rpm.
Perhaps in this instance, I should have dropped the intensity earlier on, to see if I could maintain cadence throughout the workout.

I have seen a fair few posts by people saying they have struggled, or even halted workouts in the build phase, citing it as being very tough, so maybe I am experiencing that also - I have yet to bail out on a workout, and hope to keep that the case!

Think I will be doing this one tonight:

Galena +1 is 3x20-minute efforts at 95% FTP with 5 minutes of recovery between intervals.

See how this one pans out.

Cheers

Dan

Cheers Dan! Keep us looped in on your progress throughout the season!

Thanks again for your continued support training with us.

Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

Nick Kanwetz

schayaraks wrote:

Done, Nick! And thanks for starting the investigation.

Awesome! You're very welcome. We'll look forward to getting this hashed out for you.

Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

Nick Kanwetz

pirnie wrote:

pirnie wrote:

I'm having a strange problem with TrainerRoad on my Windows 10 laptop.I have emailed support but was wondering if anyone here could help.

It started after my ride yesterday when the ride wouldn't sync. Now whenever TrainerRoad is open the internet speed on my laptop slows to a point when webpages won't load. TrainerRoad also won't sync rides and my ride is still not uploaded. It's almost like the ride is stuck in an upload queue and hogging the connection but unable to upload. I've tried to uninstall and reinstall but no joy.

All. Sorted now thanks to support. Turning off Bluetooth solved the problem. I could then force an upload of the ride and when I restarted it all worked fine, just in case anyone else encounters the same issue.

Interesting! Well, glad to hear the support experts were able to get you back on track.

Please don't hesitate to get in touch with us if you run into any other questions or concerns.

Thanks again!

Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

daniel_b

EDIT: @ Nick, I have just now sent a long waffly question to the ask a cycling coast podcast - didn't want you doubling up!

Hi Nick,

yet another question for you - sorry!

I am nearly at the end of the build phase, it's certainly tough, but I think am going to see decent gains by the end of it.

I will be due to start another plan immediately, except 1 week later I am off to Mauritius for 3 weeks.
So was planning to just pick 3-4 random interval sessions to keep me ticking over.
The good news is that I had the foresight to send a bike out there, so will be able to do some actual outdoor riding, so I will be hoping to get out 4-5 times a week, but I expect the intensity will not be on a par with what I have been managing on the turbo with TR - any hints on some workouts I could try out on the bike to keep attempt to try and maintain my power, or is it almost certain to drop?

Additionally on October 1st I am hoping to take part in a local hill climb event, which is just shy of 1.9km in length - max gradient is 10%, and I think the course record is around the 4 minute mark.
I of course will be nothing like that (Probably more like 8 minuntes or even more), but will be aiming to practice the course after holiday.

So my thinking is to carry out the Climbing road race plan - good idea, or is there a better option for me in there?
Would it be useful to create one solely for hill climbing, or is that just too speciliist and niche?

And if so, would you recommend I start it 8 weeks prior to the event, and fill in the time when back from holiday to this 8 week point with some maintenance workouts?

The actual time from returning from holiday to the hill climb is 11 weeks, so another option would be to start the plan, ride the first 7 weeks, ignore the taper week, and then repeat weeks 5-8 inclusive.

One final question, I hope........ I am pretty comfortable now with the twin 8 minute FTP test, but a number of plans have the 20 minute one - IF I wanted to swap it out for a twin 8, what is the process, do I just carry out a twin 8 test by picking it freestyle from the available workouts, and then somehow assign it to the plan, and somehow remove the 20 that is embedded in the plan?

If I can get to grips with twitter, I'll try and message to see if any of this can get into a future podcast!

narbs

Nick, once I've finished the Speciality phase and done my target event, what's the recommendation for a plan just to keep fitness ticking over from now until the end of the season?

Cheers!

Nick Kanwetz

narbs wrote:

Nick, once I've finished the Speciality phase and done my target event, what's the recommendation for a plan just to keep fitness ticking over from now until the end of the season?

Cheers!

Good job on staying consistent this far! Looking forward to hearing how you do at your event.

As for working towards something until the end of the season, we recommend athletes take 1-3 weeks of low-intensity riding, maybe time off the bike completely, to give your body and your mind a break from high-intensity training. Then, depending on how much time you have you can do a couple things.

You can take this time to address a limiter you may have noticed this season. Say you have 12 weeks that you can dedicate until the end of the season and you've been struggling with short punchy power. You can jump into either the first or second half of the Short Power Build plan, before finishing your season with a Specialty plan like the Rolling Road Race or Criterium plans. You may have enough time to do an entire Build plan as well.

The main takeaway is that you can use the extra time in your season to jump back into a training plan that'll address something you want to focus on in that time.

Hope this helps. Have a great race at your target event!

Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

narbs

Nick Kanwetz wrote:

Good job on staying consistent this far! Looking forward to hearing how you do at your event.

As for working towards something until the end of the season, we recommend athletes take 1-3 weeks of low-intensity riding, maybe time off the bike completely, to give your body and your mind a break from high-intensity training. Then, depending on how much time you have you can do a couple things.

You can take this time to address a limiter you may have noticed this season. Say you have 12 weeks that you can dedicate until the end of the season and you've been struggling with short punchy power. You can jump into either the first or second half of the Short Power Build plan, before finishing your season with a Specialty plan like the Rolling Road Race or Criterium plans. You may have enough time to do an entire Build plan as well.

The main takeaway is that you can use the extra time in your season to jump back into a training plan that'll address something you want to focus on in that time.

Hope this helps. Have a great race at your target event!

Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

Great, thanks Nick, that's really useful.

I've been quite impressed with my ability to stick with three successive phases! Building up to doing the Marmotte in a couple of weeks so a break after that will be welcome.

Nick Kanwetz

narbs wrote:

Great, thanks Nick, that's really useful.

I've been quite impressed with my ability to stick with three successive phases! Building up to doing the Marmotte in a couple of weeks so a break after that will be welcome.

You're very welcome! Glad it helped.

Very impressive my friend. You should be proud of your consistency, and please keep us looped in on your results out at Marmotte.

Cheers,

Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

schayaraks

Nick Kanwetz wrote:

schayaraks wrote:

Done, Nick! And thanks for starting the investigation.

Awesome! You're very welcome. We'll look forward to getting this hashed out for you.

Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

Hi Nick, turns out this issue will have to be fixed in the next release of Workout Creator.

If anybody has a problem with "sloped intervals" being unintentionally created when adding new segments - the support team is aware and the developers are fixing it.

Nick Kanwetz

schayaraks wrote:

Hi Nick, turns out this issue will have to be fixed in the next release of Workout Creator.

If anybody has a problem with "sloped intervals" being unintentionally created when adding new segments - the support team is aware and the developers are fixing it.

Thanks for letting everyone know!

I'm sure we'll be fixed up in no time.

Cheers,

Community Manager at TrainerRoad — Cycling's Most Effective Training System

BurntHoosier18

I'm starting to plan ahead for this years off-season.

I did a Sweet Spot base last year and liked the results. This year I'm considering doing a 12 week traditional base and following it up with the Sweet Spot for the sake of putting in the Z2 time that I haven't over the last 2 off-seasons. Has anyone tried this in the off-season and had better results than just one of the two? Or could the results for doing both the Traditional and Sweet Spot base be diminished and not worth the time?

Mapaputsi

Hello,

I got to thinking recently about my winter 2017/18 training. Last year I used a standard magnetic turbo trainer with a HRM and speed sensor. I followed some of British cyclings training plans, which I found quite good. I don’t have a power meter but I have used some local 10 mile TTs to benchmark myself and I have gotten 4 minutes faster on 3 different 10 milers from last year (2016) to this year (bear in mind I was a complete rookie this time last year, had no way of analysing my TT in real time i.e. no HRM and also have a nice new bike!).

So I was pretty happy with that result. Next winter I want to take it up a level and start training with power and trainerroad, but I am very confused about where to start.

What equipment do I need? Do I need both a power meter and a smart trainer or will one be enough?
Can I just use a power meter and my ‘dumb’ trainer? I would prefer this as I would have the power meter out on the road then also.
What about hardware? Laptop/phone/tablet?

Any other advice greatly appreciated

bobmcstuff

Mapaputsi wrote:

Hello,

I got to thinking recently about my winter 2017/18 training. Last year I used a standard magnetic turbo trainer with a HRM and speed sensor. I followed some of British cyclings training plans, which I found quite good. I don’t have a power meter but I have used some local 10 mile TTs to benchmark myself and I have gotten 4 minutes faster on 3 different 10 milers from last year (2016) to this year (bear in mind I was a complete rookie this time last year, had no way of analysing my TT in real time i.e. no HRM and also have a nice new bike!).

So I was pretty happy with that result. Next winter I want to take it up a level and start training with power and trainerroad, but I am very confused about where to start.

What equipment do I need? Do I need both a power meter and a smart trainer or will one be enough?
Can I just use a power meter and my ‘dumb’ trainer? I would prefer this as I would have the power meter out on the road then also.
What about hardware? Laptop/phone/tablet?

Any other advice greatly appreciated

With TR, you can get started using your existing equipment provided your dumb trainer is supported by TrainerRoad. There are obviously benefits to having a PM or smart trainer, but naturally they come with costs attached. All you would need is a phone which is ANT+ compatible (I use my Galaxy S6) or an ANT+ adaptor for your laptop, and an ANT+ wheelspeed sensor. Their website has some useful help: http://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us ... nnectivity

TR with a dumb trainer works by knowing the wheelspeed vs power curve for the trainer at the specified resistance settings. There are some variances to this (e.g., ambient temperature and tyre pressure can have some effect on the readings), but in general so long as your setup is relatively consistent from workout to workout that is fine for training purposes. You keep the trainer resistance the same and adjust your power by adjusting your wheelspeed using the gears.

With a smart trainer, TR controls the resistance of the trainer so that you are doing the target wattage. This means you can pick a cadence and TR will adjust the trainer so that you are doing the power it wants.

If you were choosing between a PM and a smart trainer I think most people would recommend the PM as like you say it will work on the road too.

daniel_b

Afternoon all,

I am back from holiday, and struggling to live up to the FTP I set just before holiday :-(

Almost 4 weeks off the bike, but ate well (Managed to lsoe some weight even) whilst away for 3.5 weeks, cycled twice, though not structured efforts, but did run a lot, probably 16 X 3 mile runs, most of them at a good pace (for me) and recorded my best 3 mile pace ever which was nice.

Picked up a cold on the 12 hour flight back, and am still trying to shift that whilst getting back on the bike.

Could not face another FTP test with a lower figure, so have been running the workouts at 90 and 91%, and then am planning to carry out 2 at each, ie workouts 1-2 at 90, 3-4 at 91 and so on, until I am back up to the full 100% by workout 20 I guess it will be, and there will still be half the 8 week program left.

Question for you - I am carrying out the speciality climbing road race course, in the hope this will assist me with my hill climb event on October 1st. After that, where would you go with the TR courses?

Should I go back to the base for 3 months, which would see me through to late December, early Jan, and then hit the build phase for another 8 weeks, and then perhaps follow that up with another 8 week build phase, to see me through to late April\early May when I could have a crack at some TT's?

bobmcstuff

/\ I'm currently doing sustained power build in preparation for a hill climb late September; after that I plan to have a short gap (in training plans at least) then go back and do another base into build. Starting base late October then moving onto build should mean I *should* come into the Spring with some good form. It worked for me well this year until I went and there it all away by moving house mixed with going away for 4 weeks with work.

That's my preference anyway!

dinyull

Daniel B wrote:

Afternoon all,

I am back from holiday, and struggling to live up to the FTP I set just before holiday :-(

Almost 4 weeks off the bike, but ate well (Managed to lsoe some weight even) whilst away for 3.5 weeks, cycled twice, though not structured efforts, but did run a lot, probably 16 X 3 mile runs, most of them at a good pace (for me) and recorded my best 3 mile pace ever which was nice.

Picked up a cold on the 12 hour flight back, and am still trying to shift that whilst getting back on the bike.

Could not face another FTP test with a lower figure, so have been running the workouts at 90 and 91%, and then am planning to carry out 2 at each, ie workouts 1-2 at 90, 3-4 at 91 and so on, until I am back up to the full 100% by workout 20 I guess it will be, and there will still be half the 8 week program left.

I'd just wait till your cold has gone, and then ramp back up to 100%.

Winter before last I had a cold and power dropped quite a bit, so wouldn't put your losses down to holiday. Week or so later and was back to normal.

daniel_b

Thanks gents,

interesting responses - my hesitation with just staying off the bike is that I fear my fitness has slipped already, and this will potentially accentuate it - you are probably right, but that is how my brain allegedly works :?

Thanks Bob - good to see what plans you are planning to do - would you mind telling me (by pm if you prefer) what kind or percentage or actual power gains you aim, or expect to see, say every couple of months or so?

I'm imagining they plateau off after a certain while, or when you reach a certain level.

I'm fairly new to it, having only carried out 7 months worth effectively, but have seen 9%, 9% and mosst recently a 7% gain in my FTP.

bobmcstuff

Sure, although I have only been using it since last October.

My first test was 29th October 2016 at 223W, start of Sweetspot Base Low Volume. Tested 13th December at 240W, and at the beginning of March 2017 I tested at 242W (those timelines don't add up because there was some disruption in February due to work etc). My best test was after General Build in mid-April where I hit 259W so I make that a 16% increase in just under 6 months. Based on what I have read this won't be repeatable long term.

The best way to explain those numbers is I saw an initial boost up to around 240W when I got back into it after spending most of October off the bike, then I saw another boost up to ~260W in March-April when I started doing more hard rides outside on top of the plans.

I then promptly went and spend most of May and June off the bike due to work and threw a lot of the gains in the bin...

My goal at some point in the future is to reach 280W because that will give me 4 W/kg (if I am a good boy and don't eat too many pies). I'm pretty sure this is possible; when I did the hill climb in September 2016 I was getting climbing PRs all over the place which I wasn't repeating when I tested at 259W, so I think I have a bit more headroom.

daniel_b

Thanks Bob, REALLY good to see some real world figures, as opposed to just theoretically possible gains.
You've made some good sizable gains, I bet you feel a real difference out on the road and on hills etc?
Is it low, mid or high volume you are completing? I'm mid volume myself.

I started 3 months after you, but was not in a good place fitness wise, my first proper FTP at the end of February gave me 180, then end of April 197, Then May saw 215, and June 229.

I'm currently at 3.5 watts per kilo (IF that 229 is still current and valid) , but am aiming for an FTP of 260ish by the end of the year, and long term will attempt to reach and maintain 300 - we will see!

I've set myself up a little spreadsheet, in much the same way I have done for my weight tracking, to map out what I am hoping to up in terms of FTP over the months, will be interesting to see if I can match it or not.

fearby

I have searched and not found anything particularly helpful about my dilemma. I am using a Tacx Neo and Trainerroad and then sync the Trainerroad rides with Strava. The problem is I get garbage readings for speed and distance.

Also cadence is now very erratic whereas before it was fine!

Anyone had similar problems - any solution. I know a cadence sensor will correct the erratic cadence readings.

Thanks

daniel_b

fearby wrote:

I have searched and not found anything particularly helpful about my dilemma. I am using a Tacx Neo and Trainerroad and then sync the Trainerroad rides with Strava. The problem is I get garbage readings for speed and distance.

Also cadence is now very erratic whereas before it was fine!

Anyone had similar problems - any solution. I know a cadence sensor will correct the erratic cadence readings.

Thanks

Speed and distance are meant to be garbage, it's all about the power you are putting through the pedals, so not even any benefit that I can see to uploading to Strava anyway.

If Trainerroad says you need to hold 230 watts for 3 minutes, the Neo (assuming you are in ERG? mode) will adjust resistance to make sure you do just that, whether you are in 50/11 or 34/28.
The cleanest chainline is small cog at the front, and something like the 3rd or 4th cog at the back.
I have never used the big cog to train, and I gather from those that do, that the power matching is far more erratic.

For arguments sake, lets say you had a 60 tooth at the front, and a 10 at the back, you could ride it in that, and you'd see amazing speeds ;-)

Neo built in cadence is known to be a little erratic, and only an approximation. A dedicated Ant unit is the way to go, and in fact what TR recommend.